Carrot Crunching NIMBYs

Tell him that the quarry was there long before he was born, let alone lived there. Also inform him that he must have had goods delivered to his house by a lorry.

We deliver medical supplies (typically 400-500 kilos per delivery) to patients’ homes. They get one delivery a month, and without it they would be very ill within a matter of days, dead within a few weeks. 99.9%+ of them are naturally as pleased as punch to see us, but one or two of their neighbours can be a bit “negative” about the nasty lorry that obstructs the road for 20 minutes or so once a month (although again, most of them are fine with it, once they understand the importance of what we deliver).

Except one daft woman (a patient - see above re: consequences of non-delivery) who insists that we should not park the lorry outside her house, but instead park up at the end of the road and drag the pallet to the door (about 150 metres). I’ve not had the pleasure of delivering to her myself, but if she tries that line with me, she’ll not be getting her essential supplies…

Dave the Renegade:
Tell him that the quarry was there long before he was born, let alone lived there. Also inform him that he must have had goods delivered to his house by a lorry.

Not just delivered to his house, how was his house built ? Suppose the whole operation was performed by 3.5t pickups :wink:

My advice would be to stop. Tell him that you are a convicted murderer and you are looking for a bored ■■■-head to mutilate.

He may well think you are a bit weird and leave you alone.

Dave the Renegade:
Tell him that the quarry was there long before he was born, let alone lived there. Also inform him that he must have had goods delivered to his house by a lorry.

doesn’t always work dave . i used to haul out of the local brick plant , there were houses right on the boundary but nobody was worried by it running a night shift . enter nimby , bought a tumbledown farm up the road and made it into 3 cottages . within a short time he had the night shift stopped and the short route out of the plant weight limited because of the noise , a 5 mile detour to do a mile . cheers , dave

I had this issue for years when going legal green laning in my 4x4, I found it best to smile and carry on.
I got into an argument once where the woman was roaring that cars are not be allowed on this particular lane, she lived on and we where breaking the law.
I pointed out it was a legal motorised byway and she was breaking the law having her dog off the lead, she lost it big time :laughing:

wave back and smile with a thumbs up like the other OP suggested,i had similar in Croydon off beddington lane only it was a jack Russell dog belonging to a house on the corner of where we turned in,im convinced it was trained by the owner,as I turned in one day it got through a hole ran alongside the wagon trying to bite the wheels of a moving eight wheel tipper ,very funny to see ,little dog with a lot of bottle

Definitely just drive as if oblivious, perhaps a polite smile or wave of the hand as if you misunderstood.

truckman020:
it was a jack Russell…,very funny to see ,little dog with a lot of bottle

A Jack? They’re absolute mustard those. Very funny. There was a three legged one called Bongo belonging to a farm in the village I lived in as a kid. Used to hop along side my bicycle like a demented milk stool trying to bite my ankles.

The farmer reversed over it with his tractor by mistake and squashed it. He was well ■■■■■■ off.

Had one when driving for P&H.
Stopped at a Tesco. No where to park but on the road (like 99% of drops they do)
Manager comes out “the lady over the road wont like that, she’ll be over In a minute.” Sure as ■■■■ stinks she was in the Tesco “whose wagon is this”

I stick my head round corner
“mine love, be with you in one minute”

Get outside, starts spewing all this “stobarts have agreed not to park here. Tesco have agreed to this contract that they don’t deliver at this time period”

My reply was simple "I work for P&H, nothing to do with other lot. Also the number and my reg is there if you want to complain about time restrictions and them police that just drove past have no issue where I am parked. "

“you scousers always have an answer”

rigsby:

Dave the Renegade:
Tell him that the quarry was there long before he was born, let alone lived there. Also inform him that he must have had goods delivered to his house by a lorry.

doesn’t always work dave . i used to haul out of the local brick plant , there were houses right on the boundary but nobody was worried by it running a night shift . enter nimby , bought a tumbledown farm up the road and made it into 3 cottages . within a short time he had the night shift stopped and the short route out of the plant weight limited because of the noise , a 5 mile detour to do a mile . cheers , dave

Yes Dave, the public have a lot of power. Dene Quarry at Cromford had their working time cut due to householders (one of whom had actually worked there!) and an old driver workmate of mine made such a fuss about lorry movements in the evening after he retired that a local quarry company bought his house and land and he moved to another village with a good pay off! Crich quarry closed for similar reasons, lorry traffic through the village, and Milltown quarry was closed by one of the parent companies managers who, after he moved to the village, complained about blasting so Agg Industries closed it down with 40 years worth of flour spar still available.

Rigsby will remember Eldon Hill quarry closing partly owing to folk singer Mike Harding complaining that it ruined the view when he walked in the Peak District!

Pete.

The quarrying company in Fingringoe in Essex that I do occasional work for had all road transport disallowed years ago 'cos of the nimbys, but they operated a fleet of barges from their own quay on the river so had little effect but now we run to the only operating berth in Deptford creek, Euromix and there’s nowt surrounding that but yuppy flats. We have to work the high water there twice a day and at all hours and tides have no consideration for the locals. How much longer is that going to continue? already had environmental health visit regarding the noise generated during unloading.

windrush:
Rigsby will remember Eldon Hill quarry closing partly owing to folk singer Mike Harding complaining.

Pete.

I think anyone associated with folk music should have their views ignored, just before their sandals are surgically removed, and their heads severed from their bodies and placed on a spike in Cropredy village.

Folk music should have died out when hammers became available to any one who wanted one.Mike Harding weas the President of the Ramblers Association for a period of time.The POWER would have gone to his head.

My mum loves to moan about the ‘hundreds’ of lorries that use the lane by her house as a short cut.

It’s the kind of shortcut that shortens your life expectancy via stress as well as your mileage, and takes longer than staying on the normal route. It starts off so promising - you can knock off a mile of bendy, low speed B-road, that you’re using a shortcut already and when you turn off the main road, it looks nice and wide. Happy days, two shortcuts for the price of one!

Then you go round a tricky, but do-able 80 degree corner and find yourself on a very steep hill. No problem, it’s still nice and wide. Down you go, feeling smug that you don’t have to follow that pensioner in a beige D-reg Saab 9000 at 10mph. Head around a blind corner and holy ■■■■, you’re in a sunken lane barely wider than your cab. Creep down the rest of the hill, cursing the fact that maps draw it more or less straight, but really it’s 3 gentle s-bends one after the other, cross your fingers that you fit under the Oak tree and finally try not to let the tailswing wipe out the corner house’s obnoxiously tall garden wall when you negotiate the 90 degree left turn at the bottom. Oh yeah, and when you were about half way into the s-bends, Mr Beige Saab appeared in the opposite direction, closely followed by 2 yummy mummies in X5’s.

On the plus side, if it’s rained heavily and you get your nearside wheels stuck in the little verge outside mum’s house, that you mounted to avoid getting jammed under the oak tree, my mum will likely make you a cup of tea and a sandwich (it’s her go-to solution for any problem. Lorry stuck? Tea and sandwiches. Hurricane? Tea and sandwiches. Neighbour’s wife leaves him? Tea and sandwiches) while she tells you off as you wait for the farmer to come and pull you free.

In the last 6 years the obnoxious wall has been knocked over once (and it just ruined their lovely rose bed, completely ruined! It was just the excuse they needed for rebuilding the wall higher than before. And the builders they used for it! Terrible! All they did all day was shout at each other in foreign! It went on for weeks!) and she’s made tea and sandwiches for 2 drivers. When will the scourge of those hundreds upon hundreds of lorries end!!?!?!

General IZD:
My mum loves to moan about the ‘hundreds’ of lorries that use the lane by her house as a short cut.

It’s the kind of shortcut that shortens your life expectancy via stress as well as your mileage, and takes longer than staying on the normal route. It starts off so promising - you can knock off a mile of bendy, low speed B-road, that you’re using a shortcut already and when you turn off the main road, it looks nice and wide. Happy days, two shortcuts for the price of one!

Then you go round a tricky, but do-able 80 degree corner and find yourself on a very steep hill. No problem, it’s still nice and wide. Down you go, feeling smug that you don’t have to follow that pensioner in a beige D-reg Saab 9000 at 10mph. Head around a blind corner and holy [zb], you’re in a sunken lane barely wider than your cab. Creep down the rest of the hill, cursing the fact that maps draw it more or less straight, but really it’s 3 gentle s-bends one after the other, cross your fingers that you fit under the Oak tree and finally try not to let the tailswing wipe out the corner house’s obnoxiously tall garden wall when you negotiate the 90 degree left turn at the bottom. Oh yeah, and when you were about half way into the s-bends, Mr Beige Saab appeared in the opposite direction, closely followed by 2 yummy mummies in X5’s.

On the plus side, if it’s rained heavily and you get your nearside wheels stuck in the little verge outside mum’s house, that you mounted to avoid getting jammed under the oak tree, my mum will likely make you a cup of tea and a sandwich (it’s her go-to solution for any problem. Lorry stuck? Tea and sandwiches. Hurricane? Tea and sandwiches. Neighbour’s wife leaves him? Tea and sandwiches) while she tells you off as you wait for the farmer to come and pull you free.

In the last 6 years the obnoxious wall has been knocked over once (and it just ruined their lovely rose bed, completely ruined! It was just the excuse they needed for rebuilding the wall higher than before. And the builders they used for it! Terrible! All they did all day was shout at each other in foreign! It went on for weeks!) and she’s made tea and sandwiches for 2 drivers. When will the scourge of those hundreds upon hundreds of lorries end!!?!?!

When your mum stops handing out tea and sandwiches :wink:
Regards. John.

Drift:
I had this issue for years when going legal green laning in my 4x4, I found it best to smile and carry on.
I got into an argument once where the woman was roaring that cars are not be allowed on this particular lane, she lived on and we where breaking the law.
I pointed out it was a legal motorised byway and she was breaking the law having her dog off the lead, she lost it big time :laughing:

She may have had good reason - since your assertion that her dog had to be kept on a lead was probably just as mistaken as hers that motor vehicles were not allowed. There is no automatic requirement for dogs to be kept on a lead just because it is a road (or byway, on indeed any other vehicular right of way) - the requirement only applies on specifically designated (by the local authority) roads.

windrush:

rigsby:

Dave the Renegade:
Tell him that the quarry was there long before he was born, let alone lived there. Also inform him that he must have had goods delivered to his house by a lorry.

doesn’t always work dave . i used to haul out of the local brick plant , there were houses right on the boundary but nobody was worried by it running a night shift . enter nimby , bought a tumbledown farm up the road and made it into 3 cottages . within a short time he had the night shift stopped and the short route out of the plant weight limited because of the noise , a 5 mile detour to do a mile . cheers , dave

Yes Dave, the public have a lot of power. Dene Quarry at Cromford had their working time cut due to householders (one of whom had actually worked there!) and an old driver workmate of mine made such a fuss about lorry movements in the evening after he retired that a local quarry company bought his house and land and he moved to another village with a good pay off! Crich quarry closed for similar reasons, lorry traffic through the village, and Milltown quarry was closed by one of the parent companies managers who, after he moved to the village, complained about blasting so Agg Industries closed it down with 40 years worth of flour spar still available.

Rigsby will remember Eldon Hill quarry closing partly owing to folk singer Mike Harding complaining that it ruined the view when he walked in the Peak District!

Pete.

When Nash Rocks owned the quarries this way, Strinds and Dolyhir in the 1980’s, then the Gore came under their management when Tilcon sold it. The management bought everything they could regarding property in the area near the quarries Pete. The then MD was a shrewd bloke and this still holds good to this day, regarding planning applications and vehicle movements etc.
Cheers Dave.

Problem our way Dave is that several quarries (Ballidon included) are within the National Park and you haven’t a hope in hell of getting planning through when they are intent on closing them down because “Tourist’s don’t want to see them” while on holiday. Dan, Moose and Rigsby will remember all the myther over the quarries at Stanton and Birchover trying to expand, we had ‘the great unwashed’ living in trees on site, they even had their own postcode! They came into Matlock every Giro day in battered old cars with no tax etc, the Police were not interested as they had no money to pay fines and the villagers where the quarries were used to feed and clothe them. :unamused:

Pete.

It will be interesting this way Pete, when the new owners take over in a few months time, as there are two mothballed quarries that are licensed with huge reserves in them. The Gore is disappearing daily.
Cheers Dave.