Harry Monk:
I’d be booking into the nearest Travel Inn and telling my boss he’s going to be paying for it.
And your boss would laugh before telling you to ■■■■ off. 
Marlow. Are you still living in your bus in Bellshill doing agency work? 
tiger65:
Nothing in the rules that says you can’t be picked up by the firm and taken directly home.
Yeah there is, you quoted in in the first paragraph of your post.
similar happened to me got to hereford on 9 hours duty. clutch went. waited 4 hours for wrecker. card already out. 2 hours to recover and get on road. got lift of wrecker back to Hinckley. paid 18 hours
tiger65:
Some examples of such events are delays caused by severe weather, road traffic accidents, mechanical breakdowns, interruptions of ferry services and any event that causes or is likely to cause danger to the life or health of people or animals. Note that this concession only allows for drivers to reach a suitable stopping place, not necessarily to complete their planned journey.Nothing in the rules that says you can’t be picked up by the firm and taken directly home. I think I agree with the Travelodge option and stick them with a bill for an overnighter.
Nothing except the part that says the concession only allows for drivers to reach a suitable stopping place. I would suggest that the services on the A1 at Grantham class as a suitable stopping plave.
Coffeeholic:
tiger65:
Nothing in the rules that says you can’t be picked up by the firm and taken directly home.Yeah there is, you quoted in in the first paragraph of your post.
Rules! Rules! Rules! Are they likely to be enforced? How? Cards out, and your off, simple. No one really gives a ■■■■ wtf you do.
The only rules that matter are the ones that are enforced or likely to be caught.
right here goes, having read all the posts and that court judgement all it ever talks about is time traveling “to take over a vehicle”
it doesn’t say anything about leaving a vehicle,now as you are not going to be driving a in scope vehicle until after your rest period i can’t see a problem,the only thing you can’t do is book time for traveling home.
i was always told that i could be collected so long as i was not driving any vehicle connected to the company back to the yard, i.e it was driven by someone else,and i was the passanger 
As one of my old bosses used to say “Rules are for Fools” 
Thought the title had something to do with pints, or halfs 
Harry Monk:
As one of my old bosses used to say “Rules are for Fools”
caledoniandream:
Thought the title had something to do with pints, or halfs
I think I prefer this answer. 
Some drivers have a very rigid, inflexible view of the rules that ignores simple practicality and common sense. Not every haulier is tesco or dhl, a wider view is needed, ie remove head from bottom.
pavaroti:
Some drivers have a very rigid, inflexible view of the rules that ignores simple practicality and common sense.
Yes, this is true, in fact some drivers have a more rigid view of the rules than the average VOSA inspector, most of whom, in my experience will ignore minor infringements if there is a practical reason for doing so.
I was once stopped on my way to Ramsgate, where I lived, and I was already 20 minutes over my ten hour driving time, with another 15 minutes drive ahead of me. I told the VOSA examiner the complete truth- “I’ve had the most terrible diarrhoea all day and I just want to get home so I can ■■■■ rusty water out of my arse into a toilet rather than keep having to do it into a Tesco carrier bag” and he let me carry on with no hesitation at all.
Harry Monk:
pavaroti:
Some drivers have a very rigid, inflexible view of the rules that ignores simple practicality and common sense.Yes, this is true, in fact some drivers have a more rigid view of the rules than the average VOSA inspector, most of whom, in my experience will ignore minor infringements if there is a practical reason for doing so.
I was once stopped on my way to Ramsgate, where I lived, and I was already 20 minutes over my ten hour driving time, with another 15 minutes drive ahead of me. I told the VOSA examiner the complete truth- “I’ve had the most terrible diarrhoea all day and I just want to get home so I can ■■■■ rusty water out of my arse into a toilet rather than keep having to do it into a Tesco carrier bag” and he let me carry on with no hesitation at all.
why do most conversations always end up talking about ■■■■!
pavaroti:
Some drivers have a very rigid, inflexible view of the rules that ignores simple practicality and common sense. Not every haulier is tesco or dhl, a wider view is needed, ie remove head from bottom.
Some drivers have, and so do some companies. Marlow asked if he could do it, his company said they coudn’t, that is the correct answer.
However what you actually do and what you say you should do are not necessarily the same thing
(Not a qualified lorry driver yet) - this baffles me. When you are supposed to be on your rest period what exactly does this limit you to doing? Driving a car is a no no or something?
Sam Millar:
(Not a qualified lorry driver yet) - this baffles me. When you are supposed to be on your rest period what exactly does this limit you to doing? Driving a car is a no no or something?
You can do whatever you want on a rest period. Being collected wouldn’t count as the rest period though.
pavaroti:
Coffeeholic:
tiger65:
Nothing in the rules that says you can’t be picked up by the firm and taken directly home.Yeah there is, you quoted in in the first paragraph of your post.
Rules! Rules! Rules! Are they likely to be enforced? How? Cards out, and your off, simple. No one really gives a [zb] wtf you do.
The only rules that matter are the ones that are enforced or likely to be caught.
Agreed. As I said earlier I was giving the legal answer, not the real world answer, because the question was whether the company were right or not. His situation I would be home tonight.
Twice since I have been with DHL I have been collected and taken back to base after running out if time .
Sam Millar:
(Not a qualified lorry driver yet) - this baffles me. When you are supposed to be on your rest period what exactly does this limit you to doing? Driving a car is a no no or something?
No you can still drive a car Sam, you can drive a car and caravan non stop to Spain or Cornwall immediately after a 15 hour shift.
But you cannot do certain things if you are working to EC561/2006 as already mentioned.
The Legal Definition
Where a vehicle coming within the scope of the EU rules is neither at the driver’s home nor at the employer’s operational centre where the driver is normally based, but is at a separate location, time spent traveling to or from that location to take charge of the vehicle may not be counted as a rest or break, unless the driver is in a ferry or train and has access to a bunk or couchette.
“means if the vehicle is broken down at the roadside or waiting to tip in a coldstore, you cannot swap drivers, even if they send a taxi for you if your time is up.”
The letter of the law in this case means that you must have a complete rest of 9 hours within the 24 hour period. Getting a lift home while leaving the truck is not classed as rest.
There are various get out clauses, but even if you use one of them, you have to remember this one.
Note that this concession only allows for drivers to reach a suitable stopping place, not necessarily to complete their planned journey.
Sam Millar:
(Not a qualified lorry driver yet) - this baffles me. When you are supposed to be on your rest period what exactly does this limit you to doing? Driving a car is a no no or something?
As a lorry driver, you are allowed to drive a car, so long as you are on your way to eat a Belly Buster Fry-Up, throw a bottle of ■■■■ onto the grass verge, or murder a prostitute.