Once again the Union leaders are out in force backing the auto industry. The reason given is the knock on effect, our great industry never gets this backing unless you are in a specialised sector, eg. tankers or any other important sector that gives to the union, where there fees might be affected.
If I was a younger man and good health I would be out of this country once again.
Say what you want we have been shafted by UNITE and the URTU
Tony Woodley and Bob Monks I hope you read these posts because you are a disgrace to the ROAD HAULAGE SECTOR.
Bizarre isn’t it. On one hand, the government is trying to tax us out of using cars as they’re “bad for the environment”. Yet on the other, they’re paying people to make cars which people can’t afford to buy anyway!
Funny old world. It’s what you get when you’ve got bent weaklings in charge of a country.
I can’t wait for the day when a road transport industry union can bully the government into paying transport firms to have their lorrys driving around with nothing on board!
Why should the government support the car industry?
Most car manufacturers in the UK are foreign anyway and we have all seen the acres of imported cars around the country.
We have reached saturation point!All car manufacturers have been increasing their output year on year as if there’s no tomorrow.Modern cars last longer than cars made 20 or 30 years ago,so why should we all need to buy a new car every year?
The government never supported the indiginous industries,i.e. the pottery industry,the coal industry,the steel industry to name just a few,so why should the car industry be a special case?
The home industries we have lost would have kept the transport industry going,most of the cargo I carry now is in boxes that say,“Made in China”!
I thought this bubble that China was living in would burst,the quicker you go up,the quicker you come down.I shan’t lose any sleep over China.
Why should the government support the car industry?
look at it this way if there don’t support the car industry then thousands of jobs will go and I am not taking about car maker its the ones that’s supports then that would loose out just to name a few
haulage firms that deliver everything from food to parts to the plants
manufacturers that make parts for cars and parts for the part that go in the parts
show rooms that sale the cars
and the biggest loser would be the Government
loss of taxes for car,fuel duties car tax, more unemployment
that why there going to bale them out.
at the end of the day no Government will let the biggest tax payers go down, The Car is a cash cow for the Government
i could if i wished buy a new car now but i will not waste my hard earned cash, the raod tax bands are up in the air, congestion charge ,how much, road price how much, paying for work place parking, ,new speed cameras…the gov want us out of cars and on public transport,…new car no thanks, they will have to stop puttjng the boot into the motorist before i even think of buying again
why give em money■■? its only gonna pay for wages till they shut anyhow unless… they give people say a grant if £12000 to buy a new car. a grant that can only be used to buy a car… for nothing else… this would sell cars and keep the trade going… but to pump cash in■■? if they arnt selling cars why keep em afloat?
what about other sectors… retail, haulage, buliding trades etc…
and to bail out the banks… whats happened to the thousands of pounds in ripoff charges they get every week?? the profits they tell us about every year??.
fact is the banks had a payout and didnt start to lend, they have been bailed out again and are they lending now??
why doesnt the goverment become a bank and just lend the money to those companys that need it(eddies need not apply ) then charge say 1/2 % intrest, but only lend to companys that have at least 50% of the loan in bulidings etc.
willie_mac:
Neil dont tar everyone with the same brush there are some good guys out there 100% behind the industry
willie i know here good guys out there
was merley pointing out some people would shaft the rest of use
either buy under cutting rates to get the job
looking at the short term gain not lookin at the bigger picture
for example
when i worked for a agricultural contractor
our quiet time was november through to the beginning of march and the same for most of the contractors in the area
as a result u tried to get as much ploughing done
my boss’s rate was 3 quid an acre and he always said it was the bare minimum that he could do it for just to break even
the same for most of the contractors
but one or two would do it for as little as 1.50 an acre just to get the work and keep their guys from doing nothing
if we are not careful the gov will have to take over all industry in this country and then they will be at logger heads with the unions like they were in the 70s before thatcher took over,they cant keep giving money out like confetti something will have to give,i think if we are not careful this country will go bankrupt…how many big hauliers do you think the gov would bail out? i dont think any do you? .i have freinds who drive and live in belgium,yes they have similar probs to us and some of them were on short time but they still have their jobs,because they live in euro land its big enough to see bad times through they can trade with all the other countries,no currency exchange rate no ferry or train strikes etc unless they do uk of course.but if you work in the ukyou have to rely on imports ,but if we made more of our own stuff we wouldnt.so why doesnt the gov invest in new industry or rejuvinate the mines ?we are not short of coal and with modern technology,new air filters etc we could burn it cleaner,think of the jobs it would create for this country in this country…its just an idea…
bestbooties:
Why should the government support the car industry?
Most car manufacturers in the UK are foreign anyway and we have all seen the acres of imported cars around the country.
i"ll tell you why we should support the car industry.because if we dont there could be 1.2 million people joining the dole queue,against the 1.9 million that are there now.it doesnt matter two hoots if car companies are foreign owned,they create BRITISH jobs.yes over-production has been a problem when the good times rolled,i am not going to defend that aspect.
funnily enough after peter"knobber"mandelsons package announcment today,(which will work out to the car industry about as much help as the recent vat cuts did for the economy),i have cancelled my union subscription with the t&g for this and other previous failings by them.
just by chance,if any of you"knobbers" in the goverment are reading this,here is an idea.to get the economy back on track you need to help the fewer famalies that are left working,by possibly cutting taxes for a period of time,or even better a tax break.this will help people to start spending again,as they will have a bit of spare money,after they have paid all of their wages on fixed costs like,rent,poll tax,food and clothing,oh and everything else you have screwed us into the floor with over the last few years.when people go to the high street and spend,businesses will perform well,and grow,which will then employ people to cope with demand,which will in turn have a knock on effect throughout the rest of industry and economy.then with a bit of luck,all of these people that are now out of a job,suffering marital breakdowns,and losing their homes,thanks to your boom and bust approach,and given the fact a twelve year old could see this coming 3 years ago,may get employed once again.
just an idea like.
p.s the vat cut did NOT work,neither will this.
p.p.s.there were 480,000 people employed in the uk banking sector at the start of this crisis.(bailed out)
in comparison there were 1.2 million employed in the automotive sector.
manowar:
Bizarre isn’t it. On one hand, the government is trying to tax us out of using cars as they’re “bad for the environment”. Yet on the other, they’re paying people to make cars which people can’t afford to buy anyway!
Nice green cars like Jaguars and Range Rovers - who is going to buy them ■■
The same people who buy them now.
Those that don’t care how much it costs to run…
Point to note.Both Landrover and Jaguar are succefully developing the greenest engines yet for their vehicles so it comes as no surprise they get the bail out that they needed.
whats happened to the thousands of pounds in ripoff charges they get every week?? the profits they tell us about every year??. 