viking7000:
AFAIK if you are caught with your tacho on break and you are not actually having a break as defined by the regs you are looking at a v.big fine. Pretty unlikely to happen but you never know.
if your referring to split 3 - 9 its not break its Rest and the definition is completely different .
Why oh why would anyone want to do a potential 75/90 hour week■■?
If I do a split rest I don’t tell a soul, it’s there for me as a back up to get me home if I break down etc, not so they can chuck an extra couple of drops on.
For the money…Simples
Your joking, if you need to be earning 800-900 a week I’d be off to see a debt advisor
NewLad:
Your joking, if you need to be earning 800-900 a week I’d be off to see a debt advisor
Why think Debt, why not think Pension or holiday or car or house 
NewLad:
Why oh why would anyone want to do a potential 75/90 hour week■■?
If I do a split rest I don’t tell a soul, it’s there for me as a back up to get me home if I break down etc, not so they can chuck an extra couple of drops on.
MMM well as you are most likely going to be spending the week in the Truck anyway, then to my way thinking you might aswell make as many off those hours count. To be honest when you pitch up at a customer and enquire as to how long the job is, and get told 3 or 4 hours, and you can dispose of your time as you wish, well in my book that aint work. I’ll often after about an hour or so tell the customer that I’m off for a walk, and just see where it takes me.
Freight Dog:
If you rest anymore whilst they’re tipping containers you’ll be comatose. I did it early 2000s and some places like small warehouses based in the old mills of Manchester took 5/6 hours. Sometimes used to ask to drop trailer and drive to somewhere nice and walk to a cafe.
May have changed but when I did it I never, ever got involved with the box. Didn’t open the doors as most needed bolt croppers to open. The container isn’t part of your truck like a trailer. The whole thing is just the cargo. You wouldn’t go opening boxes on a pallet inside a fridge for a customer or opening tins of sweetcorn. Containers are covered by all sorts of maritime contracts to do with loading/ being in transit under seal/ demurrage after exceeding contracted unloading. They’re not for a haulier to interfere with. If you even so much as crack those doors and a metal ingot falls on your head you’ll prob find you weren’t covered to open it as a haulier.
Enjoy, easy gig!
No change from what I can see from when you were doing Boxes, I was on Tilts then, proper work strip outs and all the rest.
You are dead right about not carrying anything(bolt croppers) to give you access to the load, or getting in the back, must admit that being a nosy so and so I normally help pull the doors open, but never do I cut the seal, even if its a plastic seal. We do get some loads that are driver assist, but we are asked, by the planners before we take the box if its ok, and you can turn it down without prejudice.
I was at a job one day waiting backed on the door about 5.30am, another driver turns backs upto the door next to me breaks the seal opens the box doors and backs on, guys come in at 6 break my seal I pull forward open doors and drop back on, 610am I’m back on the bed. couple hours later the guy next to me swearing and moaning because they’ve marked down discrepensies, and not sealed on paperwork, so he was going to carry the can for that, all for the sake off 10 minutes 
eddie snax:
NewLad:
Your joking, if you need to be earning 800-900 a week I’d be off to see a debt advisorWhy think Debt, why not think Pension or holiday or car or house
I’d doubt earning 800-900 a week you’d see much of your car or your house!!! Whether you’ll make it for your pension after sustaining it for a few decades is another thing !! 
Just a question from someone lucky enough not to have had to deal with all this wtd, poa, b.u.m, t.i.t, and all that crap… Do you have to go to to university for a few years to learn all this ■■■■■■■ tacho stuff ■■?
peterm:
Just a question from someone lucky enough not to have had to deal with all this wtd, poa, b.u.m, t.i.t, and all that crap… Do you have to go to to university for a few years to learn all this [zb] tacho stuff ■■?
No, your employer is responsible for most of it. Cool eh ?!!!
ROG:
Quackers:
Please forgive my ignorance but as I’ve never used containers before but I just applied for a job.
Is it the norm to use either break or POA whilst a container is being tipped (not by the driver, that is)?
ThanksYES - if the driver is neither driving or doing any other work then its break or poa
According too our manager anything other than driving is p.o.a,if you don’t agree you’ll be put through company procedure ,keep your WTD under 48 hrs or else 
dozy:
ROG:
Quackers:
Please forgive my ignorance but as I’ve never used containers before but I just applied for a job.
Is it the norm to use either break or POA whilst a container is being tipped (not by the driver, that is)?
ThanksYES - if the driver is neither driving or doing any other work then its break or poa
According too our manager anything other than driving is p.o.a,if you don’t agree you’ll be put through company procedure ,keep your WTD under 48 hrs or else
That’s not right, what about your daily checks or filling with diesel, hooking up a trailer talking loading bay guys, you have to show some other work
dozy:
ROG:
Quackers:
Please forgive my ignorance but as I’ve never used containers before but I just applied for a job.
Is it the norm to use either break or POA whilst a container is being tipped (not by the driver, that is)?
ThanksYES - if the driver is neither driving or doing any other work then its break or poa
According too our manager anything other than driving is p.o.a,if you don’t agree you’ll be put through company procedure ,keep your WTD under 48 hrs or else
your manager is a ■■■■ then
Poa is like being on standby for a determined period. Think - sitting around waiting for further instructions but not currently doing any work but equally unable to do as you please and rest. That manager sounds like a bit of a thicko or either a cunning git trying to sway the unwary to keep his driver’s hours up.
Mike-C:
eddie snax:
NewLad:
Your joking, if you need to be earning 800-900 a week I’d be off to see a debt advisorWhy think Debt, why not think Pension or holiday or car or house
I’d doubt earning 800-900 a week you’d see much of your car or your house!!! Whether you’ll make it for your pension after sustaining it for a few decades is another thing !!
Forgot to reply to you last night, probably too tired pushing the wheel barrow containing my wages home
You are quite correct, in that I do not see that much off my house or car, (which is actually a 12 year old Passat why spend out on something you never see) and that a few decades off this sort off lifestyle may curtail my need for a pension.
But 2 & half decades into this my chosen career I feel as right as rain, though I sometimes release air as I get out off a chair(from either end) 
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So I’m going to carry on doing a job and hours that I love, it has enabled me to put a roof over the heads off my family (whom I also don’t see a lot) and provide for all off our futures. which brings me back to why some assume that the only motivator for long hours leading to increased earnings is debt, it can also be a positive way to achieve financial ambition and security
ps with the judicious use of bank holiday and weekend working in the same pay week, I have achieved before now a 4 figure topline to a weeks wage slip, who’d turn that away
