nervoustimes:
CAN YOU GUYS ADVISE ME ON GAINING MY ADR, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THISAS SOON AS I CAN RAISE THE FUNDS
is there any specific reading material etc etc to help me get started
Hi nervoustimes,
If I were you, I’d be cautious about trying to read up on ADR because you won’t know which topics you need (or don’t need) and you very probably won’t know at what depth to study them.
tachograph has pointed you at the TN dangerous goods sticky, but I’d even sound a little note of caution before you begin wading through it. Please don’t imagine that after an ADR course you’d be able to answer the guys’ questions as I do because that’s not the purpose of an ADR course.
nervoustimes:
I know the very basics that there are a few different areas regarding adr
all info advice is appreaciated cheers all
To be honest, there’s no rocket science or chemistry involved, because you’re only after a ticket that allows you to drive an ‘in-scope’ load of dangerous goods.
Most of the real heavyweight responsibilities fall upon the consignor (= sender) or the carrier (= the owner of the vehicle.)
It’s great being a driver, cos you just drive and leave the worrying to those getting paid for worrying.
I’d be able to give you the name and contact details of ADR providers in your area if I knew roughly whereabouts your area is.
cheers also diesel dave, i’m just south of Coventry between bagington airport ryton on dunsmore, cheers man i’ll take what you say on board, i’ll have a skim through the ADR sticky & the bit about it in the dsa heavy goods book just so I have the basics of the basics (ya know what I mean i’m sure) really appreciated
It’s really quite straight forward and very easy to get your ADR certificate. It’s just a case of paying your money and turning up to the classes. Obviously, you need to pass a small test at the end, but it’s multiple choice and you will have covered all the questions. A lot of it is just common sense and you will already know some of it anyway as it touches on H&S rules.
On a different note…
Ermmm…it seems like somebody must like my style of posting! (Hi Dave! )
Diesel Dave is the main ADR man in the country also now as the " Oracle " my advise is find out where & when he is next & make sure he is your instructor
There was a guy from Sunderland that travelled to Ellsmere Port so that he could have Dave as his tutor ( sure there are a few others that have travelled as well )
I happen to know that DD teaches a few ADR courses in Leicester just 5 mins from the M1/M69 at DATA ACADEMY LGV training so perhaps that would be an idea
Those DATA ADR courses are DCPC approved if you wish to take up that option for a little extra (£75 for 21 hours if memory serves right)
think its going to be my next step after I have done my practical CPC which is this week, try to make myself look more appealing to a future employer/exploiter LOL
also whilst I have my head in STUDY type mode & whilst I have the very quickly dwindling funds to get some feathers in my cap
diesel dave if your the man let me know when ya down the midlands-ish area & i’ll get booked where ya coming too
cheers LJ & ROG
I was going to do my class one but I did’nt pass class 2 fisrt time so the pretty tight funds got attacked HARD so i’ll have to save for that again-to be fair the 1st chance I have the 2k in the pocket to do it once i’m driving class 2 work consistently i’ll bang straight in to get my class one licence, so at least i’ll have a little driving experience, my DQC & possibly ADR card in my pocket ready for class 1 work-
i’m just appling for everything & anything class2 at the moment to get out of driving a white van which isn’t a good driving style to be in at all, on my next week off (whenever that is)
i’ll do the trawl of all the haulage places in the south midlands with my hi-viz & luchbox/flask packed ready & copys of my cv/license etc
i’d love to drive specialist heavy haulage-only due to a conversation I had with a 70+ year old chap that used to drive for red house that used to be in near red lane Coventry-big old scammels & diamond Ts cooor blimey-proper lorrys! plus its the skill of manoeuvres i aim to be good at-love hearing how the old boys id stuff then doing that way myself - BOYS N THIER TOYS I SPOSE LOL
I don’t want to put you off doing ADR, but if you’re trying to improve your chances of employment you really need to look at the type of employment commonly available in your area.
For instance if there’s loads of builders merchants HIAB may be more useful, if there’s lots of quarries in your area the ticket to work in quarries (sorry can’t remember it’s name ) may be useful.
The best qualification to go for really depends on the type of work that’s generally available in your area, it may well be that ADR is best for you, but if you haven’t already you really need to look around before deciding.
LJA:
Ermmm…it seems like somebody must like my style of posting! (Hi Dave! )
Hi LJA,
Ermmm, I was doing exactly that about four(ish) years before you joined.
And I copied it from somebody else…
I believe ya mate!! Hehe. (Never noticed anybody doing a similar thing that’s all!)
Hey while ya here Dave…I got my ADR in 2010 but ain’t used it yet. I’m now in a position where I’m hunting around for work again and obviously would like to find work using the ■■■■ thing if I can, but my question is…what do you reckon is my best way of ‘topping it up’ to give me more years use of it. Or do I have to wait until 2015 then just do a refresher as it’s about to expire? Also, I currently still need 2 days cpc to make my 35 hours before Sept 2014, so would it be best doing something next year and use those hours towards that as well? What do you reckon? Cheers mate.
LJA:
Hey while ya here Dave…I got my ADR in 2010 but ain’t used it yet. I’m now in a position where I’m hunting around for work again and obviously would like to find work using the ■■■■ thing if I can, but my question is…what do you reckon is my best way of ‘topping it up’ to give me more years use of it. Or do I have to wait until 2015 then just do a refresher as it’s about to expire? Also, I currently still need 2 days cpc to make my 35 hours before Sept 2014, so would it be best doing something next year and use those hours towards that as well? What do you reckon? Cheers mate.
Hi LJA,
I’m afraid that there’s no top-up option available to you at the moment.
My advice to you (in the circumstances you’ve described) is that you’d best wait until you’re within the last year of validity before doing an ADR refresher.
If a refresher course is accredited for DCPC, you can only get 7 DCPC hours for it, AND it comes at you at double speed in half of the ‘normal’ time. I advise against a standard ADR refresher course for that reason AND due to the higher chances of failing one (or more) of the exams.
I’d say that you’d be best to wait until you’re within the last year of validity, then book to go on a ‘normal’ ADR course, but make sure that you tell the provider that you are a refresher candidate. That way, you get a course that comes at you at a civilised speed +the possibility of 21 DCPC hours… and the best bit is that the unexpired portion of your present ticket is ADDED to the 5 years of your new ticket. If there’s less than 5 weeks remaining on your present ticket, then you don’t have this option.
If you retake your whole ADR at the present time, you won’t qualify as a ‘refresher’ candidate, so you’d effectively be chucking your remaining validity in the bin and doing a whole re-set for 5 years from whatever the (new) date of qualification is.
If a current ADR holder does either a refresher or full course within the last year does the new 5 year period start from when they passed the course or does 5 years get added to their current expiry date ?
ROG:
If a current ADR holder does either a refresher or full course within the last year does the new 5 year period start from when they passed the course or does 5 years get added to their current expiry date ?
ROG,
Did you miss this bit from above?
dieseldave:
I’d say that you’d be best to wait until you’re within the last year of validity (exactly as in your scenario), then book to go on a ‘normal’ ADR course, but make sure that you tell the provider that you are a refresher candidate. That way, you get a course that comes at you at a civilised speed +the possibility of 21 DCPC hours… and the best bit is that the unexpired portion of your present ticket is ADDED to the 5 years of your new ticket. If there’s less than 5 weeks remaining on your present ticket, then you don’t have this option.
ROG:
If a current ADR holder does either a refresher or full course within the last year does the new 5 year period start from when they passed the course or does 5 years get added to their current expiry date ?
ROG,
Did you miss this bit from above?
dieseldave:
I’d say that you’d be best to wait until you’re within the last year of validity (exactly as in your scenario), then book to go on a ‘normal’ ADR course, but make sure that you tell the provider that you are a refresher candidate. That way, you get a course that comes at you at a civilised speed +the possibility of 21 DCPC hours… and the best bit is that the unexpired portion of your present ticket is ADDED to the 5 years of your new ticket. If there’s less than 5 weeks remaining on your present ticket, then you don’t have this option.
Currently doing an ADR cource , one more day in the class room then exam day ,
It’s counts as 21 hours of cpc as well , so will get my cpc card too as we as ADR card hopefully ! Apparently a few from our place have failed the exam or exams recently
Mikey D:
Apparently a few from our place have failed the exam or exams recently
Hi Mikey D,
There are a number of reasons that anybody can fail any of the ADR exams.
Incomplete or incorrect details written on the exam forms.
The instructor didn’t explain something sufficiently, such that all candidates could understand.
The candidate failed to ask a question to clarify a point that they didn’t understand.
The candidate didn’t understand something, but didn’t think he needed to know that bit.
The candidate thinks he knows more than the instructor.
The candidate chose to believe his mate in the RDC waiting room, rather than the instructor.
The candidate was nervous of the exams at first, but settled down a bit later.
The candidate was OK at the start of the exams, but suffered brain-fade towards the end of the exams.
The candidate scored less than 70% in one (or more) of the exams.
Just for info… any exams that a candidate passes are placed safely in the ‘bank’ and are valid for 12 months.
A candidate can then re-take just the exam(s) that they failed, then it all adds up at SQA in Glasgow, then they will issue an ADR card.
Of course, I’m hoping that none of the above will affect you and that you pass all of your exams at the first time of asking.
Mikey D:
It’s counts as 21 hours of cpc as well , so will get my cpc card too as we as ADR card hopefully !
You’ll get your DQC card quite soon after this ADR course if you’re already in the DCPC system and you’ve also already got 14 DCPC hours towards your 35-hr total.
You’ll probably get your DQC card (from Swansea) before your ADR card (from Glasgow.)