Sheeting - Think gift wrapping the wife’s special birthday present as neatly as you possibly can.
gonzothejaffa1:
Bewick:
gonzothejaffa1:
Bewick:
Well strip the ropes and sheets off this load and start again using the same gear,give us all a laugh !!
anytime fella
Aye OK Fella !
somehow I get this impression that you doubt my abilities ■■?
I’m guessing that’s 20 ton of 10ft reels on end - so yes I could have sheeted it in a similar fashion. BUT, I certainly wouldn’t have been taking it anywhere, now, or back in 1986 or whenever it was. Every similar load may well have got there OK, but I wouldn’t want to be sitting in front of that lot when some idiot does something stupid right in front of me!
cav551:
Sheeting - Think gift wrapping the wife’s special birthday present as neatly as you possibly can.
‘Vibrators’ are pretty awkward to wrap, unless they are still in the box. Lol.
cav551:
gonzothejaffa1:
Bewick:
gonzothejaffa1:
Bewick:
Well strip the ropes and sheets off this load and start again using the same gear,give us all a laugh !!anytime fella
Aye OK Fella !
somehow I get this impression that you doubt my abilities ■■?
I’m guessing that’s 20 ton of 10ft reels on end - so yes I could have sheeted it in a similar fashion. BUT, I certainly wouldn’t have been taking it anywhere, now, or back in 1986 or whenever it was. Every similar load may well have got there OK, but I wouldn’t want to be sitting in front of that lot when some idiot does something stupid right in front of me!
For a start they don’t weigh 20tons as they are reels of tissue[correct me if im wrong] and if the roping and sheeting has been done correctly as above they wont budge,i speak from experience.Good job dennis.
regards dave.
Bewick:
green456:
times change but the dinosaurs die
Your quite right about dinosaurs,but as times change it’s not always for the best ?
What I should have said,but failed to,was “Yea,but when dinosaurs were alive,they ruled the World” Cheers Bewick. 
Constantine:
Bewick:
Bking:
For all the [zb] anobody on here can teach you how to rope and sheet in “one easy lesson”!
They are full of bollox.
Because roping and sheeting is like good ■■■The more you practise with different loads the better you get.
My sentiments exactly “Bking”,spot on with your analysis!! I’ve heard it all now, Sheeting and Roping by correspondence course on line.[zb] well immpossible,the craft of sheeting and roping cannot be taught either by e.mail or by a fleeting visit to some trailer park for a couple of hours!! All I can say is there could be a very dangerous load taking to the roads if this guy is let loose by his prospective employer,very irresponsible if you ask me, but of course this is modern day road transport at its best,the mind boggles and am I glad to out of it !
Hey Bewick,
You arrived here safely then bud.
I’ve been waiting for you to join the party with great anticipation.
But I’m genuinely disappointed in the response, as some on here had PM’d me about contacting you and held you in great esteem. I was hoping you might have said something useful.
Dad said there’d always be blokes like you in this game, but I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting them on the road yet…hey a first time for me again. Both of us have always wondered though why you could never find them forward gears easily
You had to learn all manner of driving skills at one time in your life didn’t you? It’s not an innate knowledge you was born with and you can’t kid us on here that it was either, as that’d be porkies now!
There were men before you who was doing this job, like my grandfather etc. He would have passed the skills on to others to learn, so why can’t I learn bud, like you did?
Why does it have to be a dark art that you 30-40+ years experienced drivers hold all the secrets too. My father (he’s got 40+ year’s experience of driving HGV’s by the way) said if I can find someone to show me in 2013 how to rope and sheet. I’m to listen intently and put the time in to practice and then listen to what will be taught to me if I pass the job interview, I might just learn something along the way.
Also why can’t I attempt to gain the experience of starting to learn a new skill, seriously?
People holding onto skills and not sharing them is how important skills are lost. As unfortunately you and I won’t be on this planet forever! One of the main reasons why some trades die off in this world now, purely because of egotistical attitudes and the kids can’t be bothered with listening to the BS rather than showing some respect to the teacher and vice versa with the teacher giving some respect to the pupil trying to learn.
If you hadn’t noticed on the road, there are not many places that do rope and sheeting. So it is harder to find the people to show you things like this in practice, which is what I have always asked for on here.
No-one’s teaching me by email are they■■? They are giving me stuff to practice and try to get straight in my head, a bit like a theory so I can actually understand what is going on. Rather than just tying a knot and not knowing why it is done or what it’s importance is. Now that would be dangerous wouldn’t it, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and all that etc!
And there was no way I was going to go to trailer park for three hours and then walk away saying I know it all, got the T-shirt. I have not got a clue where you interpreted that from (Jesus, man I’m in my mid thirties now, I know not to be cocky as you’ll end up zbing up in a major way, no matter what job you do, be it driving or surveying or surgery).
I sure as hell won’t let myself say at the interview or try and kid people I know everything. Because guess what…unlike some on here I don’t know everything. The ones who say they know everything are usually the most dangerous ones of all!
Firstly you didn’t read the OP very carefully, this is for an assessment for a job interview. However I know enough about the company to know they only do flat bed work, be it just a rigid/artic, with/without, HIAB/Moffett, so I already know there’s going to be quite a bit of roping and sheeting involved in the job.
Also you made an incredibly large assumption, which is making you and me look like an arse now (another good thing about trucknet is that it is supposed to be about reading and comprehension, yet quite a lot of us on here seem to struggle with that basic task).
The employer I’ve already had two chats with about this particular job. Once on the phone and the other in person. I’ve already been told, I’d be very lucky to be going out on my own, doing my own loads and driving on my own within the first 4-6 months if I am successful and my initial salary is going to reflect that fact, unfortunately for me.
Because hey guess what, they are going to be training me, so I can at least do the job safely, maybe not up to your very experienced standards of a corner being sharper than a samauri sword, but I would like to hope that I can get close to that standard as time goes by.
This particular company have two specialities I would really like to be able to do and if I can show aptitude, I would really want to get into. Coupled with the fact they have been in business before my Dad started driving, so they must be doing something right to have survived this long.
Also they are within a 20-25 minutes drive of where I live now, so a reasonable commute and they don’t tend to do nights out.
So there you go, you’ll most probably take it as a personal attack and get in a huff. Then might come back on here and say zbing this and zbing that to me and about me, but hey ho, you might not. However whatever you say now I can’t help how you feel towards those helping me and my generation of drivers.
You know the most disappointing thing for me was, I hoped you was going to say that you’d be willing to pass some of your experience on to me in person, as I was willing to travel anywhere for the help. Hell even Carryfast recommended you, and that’s with me and him bickering at the moment.
But alas we know that won’t happen unfortunately for me. You’ll just slag us youngsters off over a keyboard instead, which I’m not even youngster at my age now, instead.
You know what we say on construction sites now, about our skill shortages and even some skill losses in my game. The Second World War baby boomer generation are a very selfish and bitter generation towards later generations. I for one, am not sure why? As I am willing to listen to those more experienced than me in whatever skill they possess that I don’t, as guess what, I reckon they can teach me a thing or two.
And if they do teach me something and it stays in, I might stand out a little better from the crowd and be alright in the future.
I don’t know whether you are like that, so I am not going to say that about you. As I’ve need had the chance to meet you in person, to assess whether you are truly like that.
Shame we didn’t get a chance meet in person though and you felt like posting that comment, especially saying that about others who were genuinely trying to help me with my query.
My initial OP was that if someone can show me the knots and the kind of things I need to bear in mind. Surely common sense would say that I’d stand out a bit better than the other candidates applying as I’d have an understanding of what they are trying to do.
That prosepective employer then may believe that I am geniunely interested in learning how to do the job properly and safely. Rather than the majority of bs and blaggers they have to sift through nowadays!
On a positive now, thank you for taking the time to post the pictures and also that wooden toy truck looks very smart.
Take care out there.
C
You should consider a job in copy typing “constantine”,not road transport! Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
You should consider a job in copy typing “constantine”,not road transport! Cheers Bewick.
In the old days I used to be a Chartered Building Surveyor and we used to have to type some of our own seriously large structural reports, so that lot was minutes worth (still struggle with my own hand writing sometimes though) but not as good as my PA wife to be was, she’d have nailed that in under 5!
Now I do simpleton construction, so don’t do any typing and I’m getting thicker by the second because of it. I need a new challenge and I think that’ll be in road transport for some considerable time to come.
Until they create the engineer who is required to be able to drive a lorry during his working duties Never going to happen!
C
Martinviking - You haven’t seen my gift wrapping efforts yet, I manage to confuse everyone with my monstrous efforts, whatever I am given to wrap!
Oh hang on you did on Sunday and we have video evidence too, zb! 
C
stevieboy308 - I’m going to have to post you some of my dabbers, as I’m worried that you’ll miss out on a new “house” chance on a new thread in the future!
Martinviking - Pleasure was all mine, drinks, bacon rolls and how to attempt to use a rope properly introduction course all for free! Great to meet you too!
Yes we needed to get me 10ft up to see if it’s different to scaffolding, because I am bloody sure it is, with nothing to fall against, bar the ground at the bottom if you literally slip up!
You know what would set your cul-de-sac off a treat a 40ft flatbed with a variety of loads, some sheets and rope, I am sure that would increase the house values too
Seriously, though. The best option would have been a proper trailer, but we didn’t have the resources to hand or spare that day and time was of the essence as I needed to learn the knot first and boy did that take some time, as we knew it would! And I am not complaining about the equipment either, you made it all available and gave me your time freely to help me and boy did you have some patience with the left handness at the original stages, good job I switched hands early on!
Youd didn’t make the oragmi, but i have my layout plan on that sketch I did. Which was just as good and I have just folded an example using it and it looked like yours did before we rolled it up.
However we all know that if I get this I’ve got month’s of training before I get lose, so I can try again under supervision with the real stuff and relearn it again, if I forget or build up on what I know at least hopefully.
I bet you wished you’d never offered at my first attempt. I’m happy with the knot and can do it on the door anytime, but the hitches, still confusing me. Tomorrow morning I’m looking for a video and practising loads with that so it becomes second nature. I remembered the splicing too!
You’ll love this, showed my missus the knot, she done it first time, ten times in a row, then I learned she knew it from Girl Guides and she’s older than me!
You’ve got to treat Ropes like Women - Oh dear you speak to my wife and get her opinion on that subject, looks like me and the rope will never see eye to eye then. Especially wrapping them up, I just put knots in the ropes of drivers I don’t like??
Ruth enjoyed watching the videos especially my Tommy Copper magic rope trick of losing the initial twist everytime I wouldn’t rate Trucks and Trailers camera work especially with their budget!
Thanks for the luck, I hope the right attitude comes across, as I can see nerves will get the better of me when I am there, I know it will happen now. Done my hour’s revision and think I understand it, but as we always see on here, interpretation gets lost in translation, so I am trying to learn verbatim so at least I can write it down and re-read it to clarify my thoughts! I know my correct speed limits I should be doing, I am brown noser for that. Vehicle checks be good to stir them up on that to, might be remembered for that, hopefully that’d be in a good way not a trouble maker! Doubt I’ll find anything as I’m not a roadside fitter like most, but I think I could spot some serious problems that would affect me out on the road, with no problem, doubt they’d be silly to put a motor like that on the road in all honesty!
Thanks again for all of your help in particular Martin for giving up part of his Sunday and sanity to help me in person and for all of you who have taken the time to post to aid me in this attempt to be considered for this job!
Stay safe out there all of ya!
C
PS Did you book yourself in for Wednesday at the fire station in the end?!
Master the knot … nothing wrong with winding two loops instead of one at the start.
Always think of where the wind will get in when you are planning your sheets.
It’s all common sense stuff, just takes a bit of thinking about, and not too much rushing about. 
Just a quick update for you all that posted to help me with this,
I zb’ed the assessment drive like a proper zb! Proved I could do the rope knot test at the beginning both to myself and them and they were impressed that I’d only learnt the knot 48 hours before and did it with no hesitation or mistakes for a newbie. I was 100% honest about my non-existent rope skills too before we started the interview.
I was told I didn’t have to sheet as that was going to be taught later, as long as I passed the assessment drive…I’d be in. Supposedly done well in the interview stage and honesty about my current capabilities and what I’d been doing driving wise by not bs to them.
Anyway it was all in vain! 
As I said above 20 minutes into a non-eventful assesment drive, I was in a semi-deserted residential area passing through back to the yard.I was pulling upto a set of traffic lights on red and had a cyclist flying down behind me after coming out of a side road that I passed. I was going to be going left at this traffic light controlled junction, so I made my usual conscious decision of what to do next.
Now like I do at the weekends around London when I’m working. I close the door on them and hug the kerb at roundabouts and traffic light, so they don’t do anything silly, causing them to be lost from the mirrors in the blind spots and then we have inevitable fatal accident.
I did this and the cyclist sat behind as he never came round or on the path.
At this junction we was going to left, so somewhere in the final five seconds before pulling away on the green light I forgot what I was driving and where I was positioned on the road.
As left junction approached I decided in my infite wisdom to start turning left sooner than I should have done. Usually in that situation I would go forward for longer or a slight pull out to the right before doing the left turn. Have the joy of doing this in and around housing estates all weekend where I drive, so I know what to do usually with no flapping or drama.
This time put the first tyre on the rear axle onto the kerb and must have rode 2-3 kerbs while saying oh zb and pulling back off the kerb onto the road, where I should have been all along!
So got back to the yard, in a 30 minute drive, I proved to someone who had never seen me drive, that I was a zbing clown, even though I’ve been doing weekend work for nearly 5 years of the 6 years of being a licence holder Got the inevitable, we’ve got more experienced guys interested in the job, so unfortunately you haven’t got the job. We’ll keep your name on the list should the situation change.
So there we have it, from foot in the door to standing outside the gate in a blink of an eye Feel an idiot for what I done as I “pride” myself in at least thinking about what I am doing behind the wheel and alas proved that obvioulsy now I am capable of not doing that.
Anyway on the back of that, unlike Mark’s and Spender’s trailer advertisments I do have a Plan B So best go back to that for the next 12 - 18 months. 
Thanks for all of your help and postings you gave me, unfortunately I didn’t make the grade this time. But at least we don’t need to worry about a me being a roping and sheeting newbie out there terrorising you all with live loads for a while yet!
Onwards and upwards to another day.
C
Don’t beat yourself up Dan. As I said in my text, we all make mistakes & get knock backs. Keep looking, something will turn up & just make sure that you leave the pavement for the pedestrians next time.
Hey Martin,
No beating up, just giving an honest apprasial of what happened and went wrong all in a couple of blinks of an eye!
Oh can’t I share the pavement with the pedestrians, I’ll be responsible and keep it to 30 on them when sharing with the other users I thought we all did when we needed to?!
It’s ok 8wheels is watching over me and tipping me off on potentials at the moment and this current time, especially as its an area I would like to get into again. So its back to the drawing board and again to try and impress the next prospective employer. I can do it, because I play every weekend without fail and they ain’t complained yet…
Just need to prove I am not a clown all of the time
C
chaversdad:
how is a badly sheeted load unsafe ?
I dont rely on the sheet to hold my load on the straps do that jobUnsafe ? No
Wet ? Probably
How bloody wrong can you be.The sheet holds the load the ropes hold the sheet.
Try roping a double stacked flat of beer bottles without a sheet.
You might just get lucky and make it out the gate.
Gimme strength.
Or even better try empty plastic bottles!