Can anyone help - Roping and Sheeting Serious Request

Sheeting.
The way your sheet is folded before you roll it out is important. When I was a young kid (abt 10 years old) I practiced folding sheets with a bed sheet (I was obsessed by trucks :blush: ) I even used to rope and sheet my bed with a cross at the front and back… it drove my mother nuts.

Obvious things like put the back sheet on first. The secret to good sheeting, apart from good folding is getting the four corners nice and tight with them all pulling against each other.

I still use sheets or ‘tarps’ as they call them over here in the US and Canada, but they don’t use ropes they use rubber bungee’s with hooks on the end… it’s not the same :cry: … but I still have my rope… and every now and then I use it.

Also, when tightening your ‘dolly’ always pull down, arms ridgid and use your knees, never pull outwards cos if it slips you will fall backwards and get run over. :open_mouth:

As someone said earlier… just ask, ive done it for years, i’m never afraid to ask and i’m happy to show new lads the basic skills which were shown to me when I was starting out sheeting…

Good luck and have fun and dont forget to buy a boiler suit cos its a filthy job sometimes.

Sheeting.
The way your sheet is folded before you roll it out is important. When I was a young kid (abt 10 years old) I practiced folding sheets with a bed sheet (I was obsessed by trucks :blush: ) I even used to rope and sheet my bed with a cross at the front and back… it drove my mother nuts.

Obvious things like put the back sheet on first. The secret to good sheeting, apart from good folding is getting the four corners nice and tight with them all pulling against each other.

I still use sheets or ‘tarps’ as they call them over here in the US and Canada, but they don’t use ropes they use rubber bungee’s with hooks on the end… it’s not the same :cry: … but I still have my rope… and every now and then I use it.

Also, when tightening your ‘dolly’ always pull down, arms ridgid and use your knees, never pull outwards cos if it slips you will fall backwards and get run over. :open_mouth:

As someone said earlier… just ask, ive done it for years, i’m never afraid to ask and i’m happy to show new lads the basic skills which were shown to me when I was starting out sheeting…

Good luck and have fun and dont forget to buy a boiler suit cos its a filthy job sometimes.

Whoa there contract driver,one click of the "Submit " is sufficient.

bestbooties:
Whoa there contract driver,one click of the "Submit " is sufficient.

Lol :smiley: . I edited the end bit about the boiler suit, then the system ‘glitched’… I cant even delete them… doh!

Hey all,

Thank you so much for taking the time to post all of your replies and passing on your advice. Who needs my Dad now, hey!!! :laughing: I’ve got an army of advisers on here now!

I see we’re back up on line, my heart truly dropped after posting this and seeing it went down and thought the moment would pass me by, as would the job! Proper zb off with the “DOS” to be honest, if that did occur to the servers and whoever done it on purpose if that was the case! :unamused:

Tachograph - Thanks for posting those pictures, they remind me of how I had to teach myself how to tie a bow tie properly. Needless to say I can tie a bow tie properly now on my own without the instructions! They were clear and simple to follow. So now I’ve got to apply the theory to a dolly knot and I am looking forward to it!

So I will try and practice using these diagrams. I have never learnt anything via a video on the internet yet, so now is the time to try again!

Thank you for all of your help on that, it’s really appreciated!

Driveroneuk - Thank for the tip bud, that’s a really good one, because I know my luck would be throw the whole rope over and it would get stuck on the load! Excellent passing of knowledge, especially the nearside comment too. Bit like throwing straps over the same way I suppose, never really thought about the reason why. A driver I used to help on my sites whilst on the olympics, when we were moving lots of concrete drainage sections. So I just thought it was the only way to do it.

Thanks for re-educating me on the reason why, that’ll stick in my mind.

Bestbooties - Thank you for taking the time to amend that sketch and explain it further about where to hold it and what goes where, which are the bits important to me to start to learn. however with regards to the

bestbooties:
two turns around the ,“Ear” will prevent it from failing.

does that mean that bottom loop would have looked like there was two ropes side by side rather than just one, like the diagram shows?

Juddian Thank you for explaining the sheeting process, I remember this with Dad, as I was the one hindering him unrolling and rolling up again, so I think I remembered how they were laid out on the lorry prior to roping.
Best get it confirmed by those in the know though, otherwise I’ll never learn from the experience. And the doubling up, you know that is going to come in handy with me, no way I want them working loose, so that sounds like the only way to go.

Crossover can I query what you mean or what I understand, they are the criss cross of the ropes at the back and front?

Fatboy slimslow Funny I say that too all of my juniors and trainees I’ve had throughtout the years of work in my current game. Shame sometimes in my years in this game I have come across people who have ripped me for asking some questions I haven’t understood. Not that I truly care and I can usually figure it out if I concentrate at it, but that does cost time and some employers don’t like that.
Plus unlike a lot of others on here I have the bonus of being able to call Dad every now and again and ask his advice after I’ve done something and see where I can do it better. Usually I can’t call him at the time, as he’d be in bed and I don’t think that is fair. But also I have some great people on here who do PM me and help where they can and that’s always appreciated and all the public posts if I have a query none of us know. As one of you on here will. Thought about that yesterday we must have nearly a couple of millenia years experience on this forum adding it all up! :open_mouth:

You’d be suprised how far I am willing to travel for good training! Drummerkev is up there too, so I could disturb him on the way to you :laughing: Short notice, yes it isn’t clever to get to you or Gonzo but over a longer period of organisation with people on here I am willing to travel anywhere in the UK if people are willing to help me, then that’s the least I can do is get to the place where they are and then listen to what they say and take it in. Hell I even went for my driving assessment with Peter Smythe and didn’t think anything about it, couple of hundred miles for a couple of hours with Pete. Didn’t think anything about that distance at all, the current job takes me all over and I want to be a lorry driver, going to have continue to be used to that travelling :laughing:

So if you or Gonzo ever change your mind give me a nod and I’ll try to arrange a date to come up and learn some tips! :sunglasses:

See Swains around but never seen them stop, ps that is not libellous to say they don’t! They just don’t stop near me, perhaps for good reason as I’d disturb them, when they most probably don’t want to be. :laughing:

Truckyboy If the twice worked for you with your experience, then it’s the way forward! Oh dear about the fingers, mine split now, even with gloves on site, that’s not a good sign, as they are painful and I ain’t even doing a very physical full time job at the moment in my current job. As for all of the other stuff, it seems like that has always been the way I’ve heard Dad speak like you have done and he is only two years behind you.

However if this company gives me the chance to start with them, then I must take the chance and be very willing to learn and use this skill and make sure I do it properly too, that’s even more important!

I’ll take your experience on board if I do make the grade and I’m sure I’ll be on here once someone drives over my sheet on the first time whilst is is zbing down with rain. Then you#ll say I told you so and I’ll say why didn’t I listen to you and my Dad :laughing:

8 wheels Thank you for the contact information, I must be bleeding you dry of information and contacts! I’ve checked the number out, he’s on the hit list on Monday! I’ll PM you shortly!

Dafman I’ll be sure to ask now, ironically today I’ve seen 6 David Watson motors all roped and sheeted or looking like they were! Until I applied for this job, I’d hardly seen a rope and sheeted lorry in the last couple of years!

If I get the job I’ll have fun in the wind and rain, it’ll be better than standing in it for 10 hours a day measuring it, at least I’ll get some time in the cab, albeit still wet! :laughing:

Got to try otherwise I won’t get anywhere and let myself and all the others who are encouraging me down :smiling_imp:

Martinviking

You are getting a PM in about 30 minutes and I’ll have my phone number on it and see if we can arrange something. Or more than likely where I have to be and at what time to be there, bearing in mind I have part of the M25 closed early morning today and tomorrow to get to yours, no problem though! :smiley: Hope we can meet up! Milton Keynes isn’t that far with a fuel card!

contractdriver Don’t worry about the multi-posting, at least you replied with some good tips, no knocking from me that’s for sure!

If this is very important I don’t know the correct way to fold then and I can’t remember far enough back to how Dad did it, zb! Could you explain that, or is it best to wait until Dad is back off holiday to ask and hope I won’t be asked to pack it away on an assessment?!

More practical stuff to learn then and can’t be transferred via internet/phone. If you have any docs/videos of anyone doing that, then the bed sheets are coming out to play in all seriousness!

Cool tip on the tighetening up properly then, as I wouldn’t have thought about that either!

Got a work boiler suit, but I doubt they’d let me keep that when I apply to leave, so if I get the other job, I better put a couple of pounds by for one of them too!

Thanks for the look I’m going to need it and the fun will come naturally!

Here goes to Milton Keynes this weekend and if anyone else wants to volunteer themselves to be a teacher with a lorry for rope and sheeting, you know where I am and I’ll be willing to come and learn! Especially if I can get off work Mon-Fri/ work at weekends /weekends in general!

Thank you so much for posting and your help. Hope I can get to see them Tuesday now to make my impression.

C :grimacing:

You’d be suprised how far I am willing to travel for good training! Drummerkev is up there too, so I could disturb him on the way to you Short notice, yes it isn’t clever to get to you or Gonzo but over a longer period of organisation with people on here I am willing to travel anywhere in the UK if people are willing to help me, then that’s the least I can do is get to the place where they are and then listen to what they say and take it in. Hell I even went for my driving assessment with Peter Smythe and didn’t think anything about it, couple of hundred miles for a couple of hours with Pete. Didn’t think anything about the current job takes me all over and I want to be a lorry driver, going to have to get used to that travelling

Im looking forward to that breakfast! :smiley:

You know I’d shout you one, plus its been a very long time since I went to Manchester!

I’m looking forward to seeing some ropes and sheets and knowing what to do with them properly! Rather than trying to play some ■■■■ game! :laughing:

C

Constantine:
You know I’d shout you one, plus its been a very long time since I went to Manchester!

I’m looking forward to seeing some ropes and sheets and knowing what to do with them properly! Rather than trying to play some ■■■■ game! :laughing:

C

I didnt wonder what the leather hat was about at truckfest dude… now it all becomes clear!

It may have been a while since you have been to manchester… but you really are missing nothing!

I shall show you koffee pot when your up this way in the city centre, cracking cafe! I have enjoyed many breakfasts in there at dinnertime!

contractdriver:
I even used to rope and sheet my bed with a cross at the front and back… it drove my mother nuts.

Classic :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

For all the ■■■■■ anobody on here can teach you how to rope and sheet in “one easy lesson”!
They are full of bollox.
Because roping and sheeting is like good ■■■

The more you practise with different loads the better you get.

chaversdad:

contractdriver:
I even used to rope and sheet my bed with a cross at the front and back… it drove my mother nuts.

Classic :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i may or may not of broke the door handles on the kitchen door when I was a wee yoof :confused: and boy did I get a rollickin for that :laughing:

and Constantine more than happy to help fella I sometimes get down your neck of the woods if I do I will pm you :wink:

Bking:
For all the [zb] anobody on here can teach you how to rope and sheet in “one easy lesson”!
They are full of bollox.
Because roping and sheeting is like good ■■■

The more you practise with different loads the better you get.

My sentiments exactly “Bking”,spot on with your analysis!! I’ve heard it all now, Sheeting and Roping by correspondence course on line.■■■■■■■ well immpossible,the craft of sheeting and roping cannot be taught either by e.mail or by a fleeting visit to some trailer park for a couple of hours!! All I can say is there could be a very dangerous load taking to the roads if this guy is let loose by his prospective employer,very irresponsible if you ask me, but of course this is modern day road transport at its best,the mind boggles and am I glad to out of it ! :unamused: :unamused: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: Bewick.

Bewick:

Bking:
For all the [zb] anobody on here can teach you how to rope and sheet in “one easy lesson”!
They are full of bollox.
Because roping and sheeting is like good ■■■

The more you practise with different loads the better you get.

My sentiments exactly “Bking”,spot on with your analysis!! I’ve heard it all now, Sheeting and Roping by correspondence course on line.[zb] well immpossible,the craft of sheeting and roping cannot be taught either by e.mail or by a fleeting visit to some trailer park for a couple of hours!! All I can say is there could be a very dangerous load taking to the roads if this guy is let loose by his prospective employer,very irresponsible if you ask me, but of course this is modern day road transport at its best,the mind boggles and am I glad to out of it ! :unamused: :unamused: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: Bewick.

So Sorry that I seem to have upset you ‘Old Timers’ of course you know it all. :blush:
I’ve only been driving wagons for 30 years, a mere Baby against all your wisdom ! :confused:
I’ve offered to give Dan/Constantine a heads up on the basics of roping & sheeting & it’s going to take a couple of hours to try & get his head round Dollys etc. :confused:

At least he’s asked for some practical advice, which in my view is better than turning up to a new job & winging it on the first load, leaving it on Staples Corner Roundabout. I certainly can’t teach him all there is to know-re different loads, weights, materials etc in 2 hours but he will be able to turn up at his new job with a small amount of knowledge rather than just looking Dumb in front of his prospective employers the first time they throw a rope at him. :blush:

So, I just hope to pass on some of this ‘BOLLOX’ you so kindly refer to & hope it helps out a fellow HGV Driver to further his career. :smiley:

Have a nice day :wink:

how is a badly sheeted load unsafe ?
I dont rely on the sheet to hold my load on the straps do that job

Unsafe ? No
Wet ? Probably

In answer to the last two very “knowledgeable” posts all I would say is that there are a number of “Old Timers” that regularly visit the TN site that will have reversed farther and will also have sheeted and roped more loads,tidely and properly,than these posters have had hot dinners!! Fair enough we “Old Timers” may not now be active within the industry but that dosen’t mean we can’t offer a sensible opinion about a lost art that cannot be taught via “cyberspace” or a couple of hours on a trailer park.And as for the statement about “who cares about flapping sheets” if you’ve thrown a strap or two over the load,what a disgusting sight to behold to see a “lassoo merchant” flying along the road with a load looking like a Spanish Galleon in full sail,makes you “proud” to admit that yes I was a member of the transport fraternity but no, I took a pride in the craft of sheeting and roping when I was operating.To be perfectly honest I wouldn’t pay some of to-days “steering wheel” Jockeys with middles out of Polo Mints. :frowning: :frowning: Bewick.

more miles backwards, check. steering wheel jockey, check. come on just a few more and i’ll have a full house :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Well strip the ropes and sheets off this load and start again using the same gear,give us all a laugh !! :laughing: :wink:

i wouldn’t have a clue where to start fella, my dad has shown me how to tie dollies, but i can’t remember how to do it

although i’m going to knock a point off for not having your front wheels straight :laughing: :laughing:

Bewick:
Well strip the ropes and sheets off this load and start again using the same gear,give us all a laugh !! :laughing: :wink:

anytime fella :sunglasses: