Hi guys and gals. Looking for advice again as you’re all so helpful 
In anticipation of starting my new career as a “truckie” I’ve been looking at some atlases. Philips and AA being a couple. I’ve noticed in some reviews that they have uncorrected bridge heights and non disclosed weight restrictions etc. These must be the fundamental reasons for getting these atlases so I dont want to get something that is useless. Any recommendations?
buy a satnav…follow it blindly irrespective of any distractions from elsewhere.
that way you will instantly be as expert as all the others who do do.
phillips and the aa ones will suffice anyway as theyre all much of a muchness and priced from 12-16 quid…just pick the one that suits your eyes best.or buy all 3.
then post asking whats the best satnav to buy.that should cover all bases for you. 
I just bought an A to Z of Scotland, you can’t beat planning a journey with a paper map
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dieseldog999:
buy a satnav…follow it blindly irrespective of any distractions from elsewhere.that way you will instantly be as expert as all the others who do do.
phillips and the aa ones will suffice anyway as theyre all much of a muchness and priced from 12-16 quid…just pick the one that suits your eyes best.or buy all 3.
then post asking whats the best satnav to buy.that should cover all bases for you.
I have just bought a satnav too, but I dont trust them to keep me on the right track, especially after reading some horrendous stories of stuck lorries and bridge disagreements lol. I’ve always had a atlases as backup when driving my car but obviously driving a 44 ton lorry is a bit more involved.
This is the one that I use (with a car sat nav as a guide.)
Pretty clear and concise, I just replaced my old 1996 AA edition with it last year in fact 
Jasesonix:
dieseldog999:
buy a satnav…follow it blindly irrespective of any distractions from elsewhere.that way you will instantly be as expert as all the others who do do.
phillips and the aa ones will suffice anyway as theyre all much of a muchness and priced from 12-16 quid…just pick the one that suits your eyes best.or buy all 3.
then post asking whats the best satnav to buy.that should cover all bases for you.I have just bought a satnav too, but I dont trust them to keep me on the right track, especially after reading some horrendous stories of stuck lorries and bridge disagreements lol. I’ve always had a atlases as backup when driving my car but obviously driving a 44 ton lorry is a bit more involved.
It’s common sense really…
If you can’t work out if it’s good to go after listening to a sat nav how are you going to know if you should just follow the map blindly?
I personally have a couple of maps - but they have more errors and can lead you into more problems than a satnav will if you are daft.
I do not carry the maps. If my satnav breaks I will use google maps on my phone. If that also breaks at the same time I can pull into any garage and buy a map. Carrying around a huge map is a daft thing to do. People on here advocate is because they think it makes them cool I think.
robroy:
This is the one that I use (with a car sat nav as a guide.)Pretty clear and concise, I just replaced my old 1996 AA edition with it last year in fact
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And you’ve not had any issues with incorrect bridge heights or weight restrictions?
Jasesonix:
robroy:
This is the one that I use (with a car sat nav as a guide.)Pretty clear and concise, I just replaced my old 1996 AA edition with it last year in fact
And you’ve not had any issues with incorrect bridge heights or weight restrictions?
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any old satnav,plus the atlas is all you need so long as you always carry a can like the pic attatched.if you have that,then you can bin the other 2 and still be ok.
Jasesonix:
robroy:
This is the one that I use (with a car sat nav as a guide.)Pretty clear and concise, I just replaced my old 1996 AA edition with it last year in fact
0And you’ve not had any issues with incorrect bridge heights or weight restrictions?
You know what mate? I hate to admit it, …but I aint even sure if wt restrictions are on if I’m honest 
but fairly sure they will be.
Never had any occasions where I’ve ended up in one, but I do read roadsigns, and I’ve a fairly wide knowledge of places in UK anyway tbh
Never had any probs with bridge heights, but I am certain they are marked.
Remember when we used naked flames in our cave for cooking and lighting? Time moves on! Yes get your self a Truck road atlas but do you know how to read on? And the main problem is that there Out of date the instant they’re printed!! No bloody use if you throw it in your truck locker and get it out 5years later. What happens when you come across something not in the book?
My satnav is updated each weekend when I’m home ,can hold all my places where I’ve been. Shows me the way tells me how much time it thinks it’s going to take and if there’s any delay on route. Recalculates when I’m diverted and shows my fuel card stations and truck stops. Buy the way I’ve got a Phillips navigator.
First week on the job. used both atlas and sat nav both good tools but still keep your wits about you. Got the Phillips one seems good bridge heights etc a bit small though.
Air start:
Remember when we used naked flames in our cave for cooking and lighting? Time moves on! Yes get your self a Truck road atlas but do you know how to read on? And the main problem is that there Out of date the instant they’re printed!! No bloody use if you throw it in your truck locker and get it out 5years later. What happens when you come across something not in the book?
My satnav is updated each weekend when I’m home ,can hold all my places where I’ve been. Shows me the way tells me how much time it thinks it’s going to take and if there’s any delay on route. Recalculates when I’m diverted and shows my fuel card stations and truck stops. Buy the way I’ve got a Phillips navigator.
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mines a 15 year old never updated car satnav…works fine when you look at it with a brain.
Air start:
Remember when we used naked flames in our cave for cooking and lighting? Time moves on! Yes get your self a Truck road atlas but do you know how to read on? And the main problem is that there Out of date the instant they’re printed!! No bloody use if you throw it in your truck locker and get it out 5years later. What happens when you come across something not in the book?
My satnav is updated each weekend when I’m home ,can hold all my places where I’ve been. Shows me the way tells me how much time it thinks it’s going to take and if there’s any delay on route. Recalculates when I’m diverted and shows my fuel card stations and truck stops. Buy the way I’ve got a Phillips navigator.
Yeh, yeh, maybe so, mate, we all get it, but as a newbie if you at least consult a map, you actually LEARN the geography of the country and routes, and it turns them into ‘‘drivers’’ as opposed to ‘‘steerers’’. 
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Then in time you get as good as me where you don’t need a map OR a sat nav. 
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Seriously though, what’s the point of blindly just following a sat nav, when you are learning the job, resulting in you not having a basic knowledge, nor a clue of where tf you are going.
That is one of the main reasons we have so many f/whits driving artics these days and ending up in ■■■■ up scenarios.
robroy:
Air start:
Remember when we used naked flames in our cave for cooking and lighting? Time moves on! Yes get your self a Truck road atlas but do you know how to read on? And the main problem is that there Out of date the instant they’re printed!! No bloody use if you throw it in your truck locker and get it out 5years later. What happens when you come across something not in the book?
My satnav is updated each weekend when I’m home ,can hold all my places where I’ve been. Shows me the way tells me how much time it thinks it’s going to take and if there’s any delay on route. Recalculates when I’m diverted and shows my fuel card stations and truck stops. Buy the way I’ve got a Phillips navigator.Yeh, yeh, maybe so, mate, we all get it, but as a newbie if you at least consult a map, you actually LEARN the geography of the country and routes, and it turns them into ‘‘drivers’’ as opposed to ‘‘steerers’’.
Then in time you get as good as me where you don’t need a map OR a sat nav.
Seriously though, what’s the point of blindly just following a sat nav, when you are learning the job, resulting in you not having a basic knowledge, nor a clue of where tf you are going.
That is one of the main reasons we have so many f/whits driving artics these days and ending up in ■■■■ up scenarios.
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first trip i did to saudi,all i remember is the arse end of the tilt in front of me that i was running with…the second time i went i ran alone and had a steep learning curve as i thought it would be as easy as the first trip.
use the atlas for 99% of the roure and refer to it as needed or write down the major roads to follow on a bit of paper,then use the satnav for the last 5 or 10 miles.best of both worlds and lessens the chances of you becoming a steering wheel lemming.
Phillips one seems quite good unless you’re going to be doing multidrop - good luck finding those little roads, streets and postcodes on that. It misses some bridges esp on small roads which might show up on AA as i believe it shows more small roads.
They are handy for checking the sat nav route against as neither is infallible, oh and for gods sake use your eyes. If sign says 14’ and trailer / truck is 16’ it wont fit regardless of what Phillips map says…cant blame map maker when you hit it.
People will also recommend Google maps or milar apps which falls down when there’s no phone signal.
Best is have 3 maps, 2 truck sat navs, 3 phones on diff networks and eyeball v1.0. VOSA might object if you have them all stick across the windows. 
First year of tramping i followed a satnav and left the map to collect dust. But i never really knew where I was or time scale of things.
Decided to finally use the map (with satnav as back up) helped me loads to gain knowledge of the roads of the UK.
My satnav (trucker sat nav) has been sat in my bag for nearly 3 years now not being used.
Anywhere new i have to go, quick look on google maps to pin point it. Check the route in my map book. Then on we go.
I have the Phillips Trucker Map. Its about 4 years old. Does what i need it to do. Also, you can update a paper map with a pen. To draw on new roads and write notes on certain places “go this way, not this way”
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phillips navigator camping and caravanning for me, 8000 bridge restrictions, not just height but width and weight, and dump the trailer and park on a campsite, cheaper, cleaner, no time limit showers and 24 hr toilets. result
hotel magnum:
phillips navigator camping and caravanning for me, 8000 bridge restrictions, not just height but width and weight, and dump the trailer and park on a campsite, cheaper, cleaner, no time limit showers and 24 hr toilets. result
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then spend the next day digging yourself off the grass,and then waiting on a crime report from plod and filing in the paperwork as to work out why youve no insurance on a unnatended trailer once the diddycoys or taliban have burgled it…bit of a win win there??
thugh i can think of more pleasant ways to pass the time on a weekly break
Probably not a lot of use to the OP but he’s welcome to borrow my London A-Z (edition no.12.1970?).My map France is from 1996 and that of Spain 1987.
Dieseldog999’s first trip to Saudi was the same as mine,glued to the back bumper of a mad Dutch guy.
Well thanks guys for all your worthy advice. I DO have common sense, the reason I wanted a road atlas as well as my satnav is because I do want to learn and get a picture in my mind of the various motorway networks, you can’t do that with a satnav. The nav will be there just to help, not to just sit and listen to all the time. As you all know by now, im new to this and I have a great desire to learn as much as possible, and that means everything from driving, tipping, routing, everything. So thanks again and I think I’ll go for the AA atlas.