Smart Mart:
A sensible thing to be able to do of course, but would love to know the legislation for it?
The Traffic answers site might know where it is located
Strewth Rog, I spend too much time on this forum without starting on another. 
ROG:
This is why some get prosecuted (if caught) if they decide it’s a good idea to get a learner to ferry them around if say, they have a broken arm or leg.
Was there a case where the supervisor was over the drink drive limit and got convicted even though they weren’t driving? Similar sort of thing I suppose.
I am not too hot on finding bits in law but this MIGHT be it -
Statutory Instrument 1996 No. 1997
The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 1996
1996 No. 1997
ROAD TRAFFIC
The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 1996
Made 23rd July 1996
Laid before Parliament 6th August 1996
Coming into force 9th September 1996
The Secretary of State for Transport, in exercise of the powers conferred on him by sections 97(3)[1], 105, and 108(1)[2] of the Road Traffic Act 1988, after consulting with representative organisations in accordance with section 195(2) of that Act, hereby makes the following Regulations:–
- These Regulations may be cited as the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 1996 and shall come into force on 9th September 1996.
- Regulation 9(6) of the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1987[3] shall be amended in accordance with the following regulations.
3.–(1) The definition of “leg disability” shall be omitted.
(2) For the definition of “qualified driver” there shall be substituted–
"“qualified driver” means–
(a) in the case of the supervision of the driver of a motor car by a person whose licence is limited by virtue of a notice served under section 92(5)(b) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 to vehicles of a particular class, a person who holds a full licence authorising him to drive a motor car of a class falling within the same category as the motor car being driven by the holder of the provisional licence and who would in an emergency be able to take control of the steering and braking functions of that motor car,
(b) in any other case, a person who holds a full licence authorising him to drive a motor vehicle of the same class as the vehicle being driven by the holder of the provisional licence,
and who is either–
(i) at least 21 years of age and has held the licence referred to above for an aggregate period of 3 years or more, or
(ii) a member of the armed services of the Crown acting in the course of his duties for naval, military or air force purposes."
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport
Steven Norris
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department of Transport
23rd July 1996
EXPLANATORY NOTE
(This note is not part of the Regulations)
These regulations further amend regulation 9(6) of the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1987 by providing that, subject to one special condition, any person with a disability may be a “qualified driver” for the purpose of supervising a learner driver in a motor car. The special condition (in addition to general conditions as to age and experience) is that he must be able to take control of the braking and steering of the car in an emergency.
This provision replaces the previous regulation, which permitted only persons suffering from leg disabilities to act as supervisors (whether or not they could take control in an emergency).
ROG:
I am not too hot on finding bits in law but this MIGHT be it -Statutory Instrument 1996 No. 1997
The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 19961996 No. 1997
ROAD TRAFFIC
The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 1996
Made 23rd July 1996
Laid before Parliament 6th August 1996
Coming into force 9th September 1996The Secretary of State for Transport, in exercise of the powers conferred on him by sections 97(3)[1], 105, and 108(1)[2] of the Road Traffic Act 1988, after consulting with representative organisations in accordance with section 195(2) of that Act, hereby makes the following Regulations:–
- These Regulations may be cited as the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 1996 and shall come into force on 9th September 1996.
- Regulation 9(6) of the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1987[3] shall be amended in accordance with the following regulations.
3.–(1) The definition of “leg disability” shall be omitted.(2) For the definition of “qualified driver” there shall be substituted–
"“qualified driver” means–
(a) in the case of the supervision of the driver of a motor car by a person whose licence is limited by virtue of a notice served under section 92(5)(b) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 to vehicles of a particular class, a person who holds a full licence authorising him to drive a motor car of a class falling within the same category as the motor car being driven by the holder of the provisional licence and who would in an emergency be able to take control of the steering and braking functions of that motor car,(b) in any other case, a person who holds a full licence authorising him to drive a motor vehicle of the same class as the vehicle being driven by the holder of the provisional licence,
and who is either–
(i) at least 21 years of age and has held the licence referred to above for an aggregate period of 3 years or more, or(ii) a member of the armed services of the Crown acting in the course of his duties for naval, military or air force purposes."
Signed by authority of the Secretary of State for Transport
Steven Norris
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department of Transport
23rd July 1996
EXPLANATORY NOTE
(This note is not part of the Regulations)
These regulations further amend regulation 9(6) of the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1987 by providing that, subject to one special condition, any person with a disability may be a “qualified driver” for the purpose of supervising a learner driver in a motor car. The special condition (in addition to general conditions as to age and experience) is that he must be able to take control of the braking and steering of the car in an emergency.This provision replaces the previous regulation, which permitted only persons suffering from leg disabilities to act as supervisors (whether or not they could take control in an emergency).
could that not be taken as pull the handbrake and / or grab the steering wheel in an emergency as oppossed actually sit in the drivers seat and drive??
stevie
mrpj wrote:-
Was there a case where the supervisor was over the drink drive limit and got convicted even though they weren’t driving?
I think that comes under drink-driving legislation and was brought in to stop someone going down the pub getting a skinful and then ‘accompanying’ a learner driver who was sober!
My thoughts as well stevieboy308.
Thanks for looking though Rog.
The wording in Blackstone’s is
A supervisor of a learner driver is required, not to provide tuition to the learner, but to ‘supervise’. That means doing whatever might reasonably be expected to prevent the learner driver from acting carelessly or endagering others. The duty includes being in a position to take control of the vehicle in an emergency.
Note the wording.
“to take control”. No mention of being able to take over the driving. 