Well after some realy hard thought i have booked C+E with lagta, It will be wag and drag using the same vehicle i passed C in back in october.Realy pushing the boat out cash wise to do it but after speaking to a lot of class 1 drivers of recent seems by passing C+E opens up more doors work wise.The course is gonna be short and sweet as im doing 3 days and test same as i did for C, I have the books back out getting the coupling and un coupling drilled in the old head, Any help on this would be much appreacited. 
Gee
Good on you for pushing the boat out. You will not regret it.
Coupling is easy provided you remember
B rake
L eg(s)
A irlines / Electics
N umberplate
K ingpin / Coupling
When uncoupling make sure you raise the bar enough so it neither sits on the bottom of the coupling or is pushing up against the top of the coupling. It will go back in with ease.
If you have to take another go at the coupling because the pins haven’t engaged, make sure you release the jaws. You won’t fail if it does not go in to the coupling first time. But don’t leave it till the 4th time to work out what’s not right 
I am sure your trainer will have his/her own way of teaching it but I found this to help tremendously.
Good Luck
Will be watching for the diary
Well done for deciding to push the boat out. It’s often the case that this will open more doors. And, as I always say, less work for more money - seems good to me!
You should find the whole thing quite straightforward as it’s the same vehicle you’ve already used. The trailer should follow the prime mover (the posh expression for the “front bit”). Be aware that you may be about twice the length than as a CAT C so allow more time to emerge onto roundabouts and out of junctions etc etc.
Acceleration may be a little slower. Braking will be pretty well unchanged as the extra weight is more than compensated by the trailer brakes.
Reversing should be sorted within an hour. Coupling/uncoupling 15 minutes.
I prefer to train on W+D as it is the easier way of passing the test. But please consider a “top up” on a conventional artic once you’ve passed your test. That, too, will be easier than you imagine.
All the best with it, Pete 
Please tell me it’s not in that scanny of theirs for wag and drag?!
Absolutely nothing like a real artic.
Nor are a lot of WnD outfits. But it gets the category on your licence 
Peter Smythe:
I prefer to train on W+D as it is the easier way of passing the test.
Whys that then?
because B follows the path of A simples
B = Drag
A = Prime Mover
puntabrava:
Peter Smythe:
I prefer to train on W+D as it is the easier way of passing the test.Whys that then?
Noworries:
because B follows the path of A simplesB = Drag
A = Prime Mover
Am I right in thinking W&D is easier to pass because of the pivot point is different and it bend technically in the middle rather than a quarter of the way down so to speak?
stagedriver:
Please tell me it’s not in that scanny of theirs for wag and drag?!Absolutely nothing like a real artic.
nope
Sam Millar:
puntabrava:
Peter Smythe:
I prefer to train on W+D as it is the easier way of passing the test.Whys that then?
Noworries:
because B follows the path of A simplesB = Drag
A = Prime MoverAm I right in thinking W&D is easier to pass because of the pivot point is different and it bend technically in the middle rather than a quarter of the way down so to speak?
Yes , drag follows the path of prime mover rather than cutting corner. 
I found that artic was easier than class c. I know that sounds strange but the lock on the artic is far better than class c
I found that artic was easier than class c.
Everyone should do what they consider is best for them.
My stance is well known and documented. It is, without a shadow of doubt, substantially easier to pass a test on a properly configured W+D than it can ever be with an artic. I speak from nearly forty years of HGV training experience - the first 25 years on artics, the last 15 on w+d so I may have an idea of what I’m talking about.
There is a very slight downside to training on a w+d and that comes with the coupling/incoupling where you do have to line up more accurately than with an artic. But everything else is easier. So it is, IMO, a no-brainer.
But I strongly recommend a short “conversion” course with an artic once the licence is in your hand.
Good luck all, Pete
Peter’s post above this really sets out the realities of W&D. I dont quite have Pete’s 40 years but I do have 30. In the days of HGV 3,2 &1 most schools used mainly artics because there was very little demand for Class 2 and 3.
Most courses lasted around 8-10 days because such was the difference between car and artic, although I am old enough to remember the “Double L” tests where candidates could pass their car tests on an artic and be issued 2 separate pass certificates at the time. How many remember the forward steering excercise done after the reverse and before the stopping excercise.
In those days passing on a rigid gave you the drawbar entitlement so the W&D courses are a relatively new idea.
The reason W&D is easier is basically because of the location of the coupling pin. it is halfway down the rig instead of near the front on an artic. On left turns the trailer will only start to go left when the coupling pin goes left. This occurs a lot later on a W&D than an artic because of the pin location.
We use an 8.3m rigid which becomes 15m with a trailer. Most rigid drivers are used to driving vehicles longer than we use and find that when they come for the CE course they can take up the same position for turns that they are used to at work.
In Dodester’s case you do not have that experience to draw on and you will have to make allowances for a certain amount of cut in by the trailer. We use the analogy of imagining a motorbike parked by the kerb just befor the left turn. Take up a position to miss the bike and you should be fine for the turn.
When turning right a lot depends on the width of the road you are turning into. The narrower the road, the more to the left you have to stay on the approach to avoid cutting the corner. You should also move forward to just past the centre line of the road on the right before starting to turn.
dodester:
Well after some realy hard thought i have booked C+E with lagta, It will be wag and drag using the same vehicle i passed C in back in october.Realy pushing the boat out cash wise to do it but after speaking to a lot of class 1 drivers of recent seems by passing C+E opens up more doors work wise.The course is gonna be short and sweet as im doing 3 days and test same as i did for C, I have the books back out getting the coupling and un coupling drilled in the old head, Any help on this would be much appreacited.
Also the fact that it is the same vehicle makes a big difference
Good choice IMO. All the best with it, Pete