Busy Mr Trump

I’ve just been reading that Biggs also regrets losing his pension. As a veteran, he used to receive a monthly pension and health care to treat PTSD and a brain injury from his service in Iraq. But his conviction cut off those benefits.

Despite the damage to his finances and health, Biggs continues to insist that the January 6 events were exaggerated by Democrats.

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You mean like the suggestion that we supposedly deliberately fooled the Argies into going to war over the Falklands.
When the odds were that we would lose having effectively scrapped the ability of the Fleet Air Arm in the form of Eagle and Ark Royal and their Phantom interceptor capability.Bearing in mind Maggie knew the Falklands task force was in range of Argentine land based air attack.
The truth is Maggie gambled the lives of our forces as an election propaganda stunt and nearly lost the bet.

I’ve always used the cab over and conventional descriptions on the basis of accuracy and easier than forward and normal control.Its obvious that CAV’s etc issues go deeper than a few differences and commonalities between us and our closest ally at least since 1812.
The suggestion that the US supposedly puts up more obstacles to trade with Euroland, than Euroland puts up against the US in the form of type approval and tariff barriers, is laughably biased and definitely innaccurate.

Where the ■■■■ did I suggest that, you lunatic? Nurse! Nurse! Ritalin!!

Your first sentence replies to my post. The rest is random crap.

I fear the squirt intends exactly the opposite by wrecking the education department, just as all the republicans wanted to.

One has to ask why is the attainment of Americans so much lower than say Germany or even the UK. It’s because of the long fractured system of standards they had since before the education department was enacted to raise standards.

Education has long been too close in hand with religious groups across the midwest especially. And in many large cities, where red-lining hasn’t been eradicated, schools in predominately black neighbourhoods are starved of cash. Schools in southern states where inbred charlatans and racketeers run the towns, money for education like court fines, gets siphoned off, so stripping the kids of any hope of a decent education.

And what is education about? Even if the state education committee is neither crooked nor religious crackpots, they might still have narrow views about education. i.e. it’s about learning facts by rote, probably politically partisan facts i.e. rewriting history to make Nixon into a saint. It’s seldom about learning how to learn for yourself, how to investigate, form opinions and judge the evidence.

Thats’ why so many americans voted for the very party that is going to take away their veteran’s rights, dumb down further their education, make their healthcare more expensive, take away what little labour rights they have - which isn’t as many as we do here.

Trump intends to gerrymander using education as a tool rather than redrawing state lines.

Really? You lived in America didn’t you?

only briefly, I ran while I still could, got out just before trump took his first stab at ruining the country. My stepson was still in state school at that time, luckily he had a brain in his head, left his mom the same time I left her and last I knew, he had trained as an electrician or wireman.

I’ve been so venomous about the buffoon since, I doubt I’d be allowed back in ever again :laughing:
Immigration can be swines, they make you think it’s curtains when they start quizzing you in depth despite having a valid visa, then at the last moment they say “you’re clear to proceed” They have absolutely no sense of humor. Never make any any sort of joke at all.

That was my whole point you buffoon - Britain ignored the warnings for political reasons. We were fortunate that the navy was well prepared for war. Do you seriously believe that a task force of that magnitude could be assembled in a couple of days? The Thatcher government was on its knees and nothing restores a government’s popularity than a war. She gambled and it paid off. I was suggesting that Netanyahu did the same. As has been said before “read the post “ before you go in all guns blazing.

That sums it up exactly The USA is a retarded country.

That sums it up pretty well exactly, the USA was and still is a retarded society

Ok…
So out of interest and in the spirit of comparison…
How would you rate this county in it’s present state of political and social disarray?

And my point was that the navy was anything but prepared for war with the loss of our Fleet Air Arm fighter interceptor capability long before, in the form of maintaining or replacing Eagle and Ark Royal .If Atlantic Conveyor had been the Harrier Carrier that the Argies were really looking for that would have been the end of Maggie’s South Atlantic stunt.
It was a political stunt by Maggie but not the conspiracy theory that you are trying to make it.
The Argies took advantage of Brit military spending cuts which took place long before her regime was installed and Maggie ‘then’ saw a way to turn that to her advantage after the fact at the very high risk of defeat.

You didn’t suggest it.As I very clearly stated CAV etc did in their rant against President Trump ?.

If a government, for political expediency, chooses to blatantly ignore information that, had they acted on, could have averted war but would gain them popularity then I think that could qualify as conspiratorial. The same situation reared its ugly head in 1977. At that time, we had a task force exercising off the coast of northern Brazil. Every task force (and I assume this practice continues today) was accompanied by a nuclear submarine. The government of the day ordered the navy to send it, and a couple of frigates, down to the Falklands but made sure that the Argentinians knew about it. No war followed. If John Nott had allowed the navy to do the same thing (and the task force off Gibraltar had a submarine with them) then there is every possibility that the Argentinians would have backed off again. The action taken in 1977 was only 5 years previous so plenty of people in government would have been aware of how successful it was. Why was this course of action not repeated?
The picture of the 5 warships without pennant numbers was taken on 1st March 1982. I’m going to be generous and say that this pic was taken the same day as the identification marks were painted over so the navy was preparing at least one month before the invasion. However, as I mentioned, I knew the Captain of HMS Endurance well. Discussing the war with him in 1987, after he had left the navy, he told me that he had been warning the Government for at least 3 months about the Argentine intentions. All his communications were routed through the Northwood headquarters. The chief of staff to the Commander in Chief Fleet was a former Flag Officer First Flotilla (and I was on his staff when he was there) so he was more than up to speed with the situation that had been developing in the South Atlantic over the previous 10 years. The Commander in Chief Fleet (Admiral John Fieldhouse) was a former Flag Officer Second Flotilla and Flag Officer Submarines (FOSM). He was FOSM when the 1977 incident took place. So, all those at Northwood were extremely experienced and knew exactly what capabilities the navy had -and where the weak points were. Fieldhouse would have informed Whitehall so those at the head of the MOD would have known. The Chief of Defence Staff, Admiral Henry Leach, was a former Flag Officer First Flotilla and Commander in Chief Fleet. He wasn’t a desk jockey. The navy was well prepared for what lay ahead. As I’ve said, yes, they got lucky with the Atlantic Conveyor loss instead of either Hermes or Invincible. However, you have no way of knowing what the navy could have achieved if a carrier had been hit but the equipment on Atlantic Conveyor had been available to the task force. If you didn’t know, Atlantic Conveyor was also capable of operating Harriers albeit without a ski ramp. I can also tell you that most of the fleet would have been carrying tactical nuclear weapons (the WE.177A). One of them dropped on the Belgrano instead of a torpedo would probably have ended the war there and then but at what political cost to the government?
Did Thatcher think that the Argentinians would fight? Absolutely not, she thought that they would roll over once they seen what was heading their way. She gambled, got lucky with the Atlantic Conveyor hit, and our troops prevailed. It was a fantastic achievement given that we lost so much vital equipment when the Atlantic Conveyor was hit.
If you want to continue trying to point score about the Falklands war feel free. But thoroughly research your posts before you send them. You’re arguing with someone who is far more knowledgeable about this than you will ever be.

I think we’re evenly matched, Both run by opportunistic clowns who should be nowhere near high political office.

I’m not getting into an extended na, na, na over this, especially with Slartibartfast .

So I see sadly in increasing danger of going the same way with a lack of discipline in schools and a worrying increase in social and political division - probably related to the quality of the output from the above. This is evidenced by increasing polarisation towards the further reaches. An envy of others which has always been there has grown, both from the have nots and even more noticeably from the haves, who are becoming obsessed with me, me, me, I’m alright Jack haul up the ladder. That doesn’t mean I agree with layabouts, skivers and leadswingers, and especially those who want to ■■■■ their way onto the housing ladder and benefits while doing nothing. But some memebers of our society need financial help and it falls to the rest of us to pay taxes to provide that.

However compared to the USA we don’t have the same level of religious nutjobs, we aren’t so blatantly racist, we don’t have the right to carry lethal weapons, with the majority opposed to the very idea, the police are not armed, we have free health care which the population value very greatly, we allow a right to a choice of abortion, and we don’t feel the need to hang the national flag on every lamp post unless there’s a special occasion.

This is not the USA thank God.

I could go on on both sides of the coin, I’m sure I’ve omitted somthing I thought of earlier but I siply can’t be bothered .

This might be the situation at the moment but we are heading in that direction. Right wing nationalism is on the rise, especially with the young who get most of their information via social media. Racism is probably at its highest level since the anti-Irish lobby in the late 19th century. Religious intolerance is on the rise, no doubt as a backlash to the crazy world of Islam (if you blow yourself up what use are 77 virgins). Yes most Moslems are law abiding and fully integrated into our society, but unfortunately the ones with the loudest voices are those who hate us and all we stand for.

And, I think you would be horrified if you knew how many police vehicles carried weapons. They might not be carried on the person of the beat bobbies but they are never that far away.

That’s relevant to most of Carryfast’s posts. :joy:

Let’s not be wishy washy here - it applies to all of his posts :grinning_face: :grinning_face:

With apologies to Churchill. “never on an internet forum has one man known so little about so much”

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