Lovely post @robroy
We should all take note of your example: how you never apply playground names, and silly insults to politicians, nor other posters.
Also it is noteworthy that in the past you have always stood up for freedom of expression, and criticised those who complain about “hurty words”
I promise that I will give your post all the respect it deserves.
Tlayuda
Trump likes all young under dressed aides
Tamales
Trump and mates all letting Epstein slide
Ronald Grump anyone?
From the 90’s Sesame Street was taking the mickey out of a New York developer.
Now Trump wants to defund it?
Well thank you I appreciate that.
If you are a fan of mine…yeah feel free to emulate me.
Ok that’s fine…
OR.
You could just take them pearls from around yer gregory and stop taking things (and yourself )ohhh sooo 'kin seriously.
Errrr Ok…
Nah…sorrry mate, not a scooby,.all that has gone straight over the top of my swede.
(Btw…pleeeease don’t explain,.I’ve got some paint to watch whilst it dries.)
Anyway ttfn I’ll leave you to your one man hate campaign.
Try not to come across as TOO embarrasing on it.
Did RR react then @franglais ? I don’t know because I never read his posts. If he did, then, job done. 
Well I’m sure you must know how strait laced @robroy is?
Being of a very puritanical streak he seemed to object to anyone using anything outside of Parliamentary or Church going language. After all, he never would himself, would he?
Franglais mate what are all these enigmatic posts about me.
Seriously wtf are you slavering on about exactly?
Am I missing something obvious or what.
Did you just post that to put across a point?
If it’s true I’m seriously devastated that an irelavant complete stranger never reads my posts.
…
But we’ll never know will we as you… ‘‘never read my posts’’ so you won’t see this .(aye right)
Best ask yer mate Franglais to report back to you.
Jeez H it’s like being back in the 'kin school playground man…
''I’m not speaking to him, can you tell him etc etc ‘’
Ffs man…seriously?.
Ok Franglais no reply so I will take your post as literal.
I aint.
I aint, I don’t, and I am neither a wannabe politician like some on here nor a church goer.
Yes I would and do so frequently.
Hope that helps…be sure to tell Spardo and tell him I’ll meet him behind the bike sheds when the bell goes.
Have I took too many Ibuprofens for my bad back and gone a bit high… or is this really happening.
nah he has got all bent outta shape because i proved him the moronic gullible fool he is. Dont worry when he tires himself out the tantrum will be over.
But you’re a ■■■■ so who cares 
From 1990’s Sesame Street, looking at Ronald Grump, to a strangely up to date, 5 year old South Park episode.
Apart from the hundreds of deaths and millions of pounds of damage done, I guess we could say
“Better late than never”
Trump seems to have grasped that Putian has been lying to him. That he hasn’t been really up for a peace deal.
If he follows through on his latest pronouncements then then Zelensky can expect that weapons already in Europe will be given to him quickly, and also that the US will stop soft-pedalling on sanctions against Russia.
Trump is now talking about allowing 50 days so Putain can come to a deal…I don’t think that anything taco Trump says about time limits means a thing…but he is at least starting to move in the right direction.
Will it make Trump less popular with MAGA? Maybe so.
Will that make him change course again? Who knows?
Trump probably doesn’t know, so how can anyone else?
Edit: Oh and to add…
NATO isn’t so bad after all. Same caveats apply subject to change for no apparent reason
Yeah but are you blaming Trump for that?
It was a continuation of a war before Trump was involved.
Yeah I kinda agree…
But diplomatically he had to go through certain methods and stages due to the potential threat…(or in this case the absolute ultimate threat of WW3 ffs), he was/is dealing with a nut job here who is always told he is right and believes it, he needed to put on his kid gloves and screw on his ‘tact head’ because of this.
Yep agree again. 
But do you think he did not consider that from day 1.
Of course he does not trust him, he said on BBC ‘‘He trusts hardly anybody’’…(a bit like me in fact, it avoids a lot of dissapointment in life)
You seem to be believing your own hype that Trump is an inept idiot,…like it or not fact is he really isn’t.
He knows different leaders need to be treated differently
I aint saying he was 100% correct to deal with Zelensky initially as he did, but he aint going to treat Putin the same way, or Starmer or leaders of the EU countries…
An analogy for you…
You are in charge of keeping order at an event, or in a club or something.
Some young scrote kicks off, he aint a big threat so would you not just go in, arm up back and kick him out showing him you aint taking his b/s.?..job done in 5 mins.
So then the local gangster, or local ex Para, or local martial arts guy kicks off…whole different scenario.
How would YOU deal with it?
Same as you did with ‘Scroteboy’?
Or would you not go in a bit tactful realising the potential kick back, would you not first try the friendly approach, go in smiling,.saying something ‘‘Come on ‘John’ mate, you know better than that and I want a quiet night here’’ being friendly…or something like that to diffuse the whole thing.
But knowing you can’t trust how he’ll react so being prepared for it.
This is what Trump did, it aint appeasement, it’s being firm but friendly, letting him know he ‘knows the score’.
So if ‘Big John’ still takes the pi55 …you Franglais will have other members of your staff to back you and the Old Bill on call.
And if Putin carries on his antics, Trump has his own equally (or even superrior forces), and NATO…Putin aint a (full on) idiot either, he knows this.
So my much simplified analogy point is rather than going in hard all guns blazing threatening Putin, he is doing it in stages… like you in your club or event.
Yep like I said after trying easier options first.
Do you think he cares?
He does things his oen way he aint a weakling worrying about who he offends or who does not like him.
Yep he said that,.and said ''Now that the US aint any longer paying for most of it, other countries are pulling their weight now…(paraphrased)
Putain? Trump? Let’s say both of them as as bad as t’other.
You are right that Trump is not the cause of the deaths.
I am saying that if he had woken up to the reality earlier, then some of those deaths might have been avoided.
Because he has been treating Putain as an honest man, he has led him to continue and worsen his attacks.
You seem to be “sane-washing” Trump and his actions.
He really did talk of Putain in rather admiring tones. Often. For years.
The BBC interview where he talks of Putain and refuses to say he trusts him is a sea-change in Trump’s attitude.
Russia was being gently squeezed by Biden and (most of) the rest of the world. Sanctions were slowly having effect. As you rightly say, to go in too hard with Putain might raise the temp too high. But Trump came in and eased the pressure, talking of dropping the sanctions.
Putain was grinning.
Well, I doubt we will agree, but I saw him moving in the wrong direction for 6 months, and only now seems to see what the rest of the world knew already.
Sure he cares. He needs to get his party in power at the mid-terms. He needs to keep all of the current Republicans behind him. He wants the Trump brand to keep being successful, so he can get his heirs on the throne, and keep himself out of the nick.
He is very unpopular in terms of US Presidents.
He is flip-flopping about with his on/off tariffs. It is not 4 dimensional chess that we mortals cannot understand.
It really is as silly as it seems! It is the Emperors new clothes.
C’mon Franglais, I knew as soon as I put that it would be jumped on as an inevitable retort…and what is all this ‘Putain’ business, apart from the fact that I aint got a scooby what the ‘‘joke’’ is, but no doubt one has gone over my head, it’s one step above Wolfie with his infantile ‘‘Twumpy Wumpy’’
I thought you were better than that tbh.
Yeah can’t argue, but I have already explained why he done it in that way…(I aint arrogant enough to think I’m a spokesman or apologist for Trump either btw, it is MY take on it illustrated by my simpler analogy)
No I aint, to remind you about believing your hype.
I take it as psychology…a bit like ‘talking nice’ to the hard man in the club…I thought I’d explained that one.
Of course it has changed his first wave of tactic has been unsuccessful…move to next stage, stand up with a minor threat, ‘let him know he is there’ in footballig terms, a kick on the ankle..
I disagree Biden was a paper tiger, and predictable s bit like (but not as bad) Starmer.
Trump is a loose cannon and unpredictable Putin knows this.
(Lets leave that one and agree to differ, not interested in a US party politics argument, I’d be bringing a spoon to a knife fight on it…not intetested)
Yep…YOUR opinion
You say ‘‘KEEP being succesfull’’
Must be doing ok …can’t be that unpopoular, apart from maybe with his opponents and those with opposite political views, the leftys with their noses out of jount, who rubbish everything he does, and hates it when he does something right…although they don’t think it’s right at the same time…obvs
He is so unpopular that he got a second term voted.
See above.
At least ALL WE should be bothered about is for whatever reason, motive, or hidden agenda involved, he seems to favour the UK and dislike the EU.
I simply can not help myself constantly comparing Trump and his regime with ours
As for tarriffs…I think if he had been Starmer, he would have applied tarriffs on France,…even brought the fishing rights as a threat into play to get them to get their ‘Doights’ out of their ‘‘Derrieres’’ in terms of doing what they are being paid for to stop the boats, instead of kissing Macron’s EU derriere as Starmer embarrasinglly did.
But hey we got the magnificent ‘‘One in one out deal’’ instead.
Edit…just googled ‘Putain’ out of mild curiousity,.my ‘‘school French’’ did not cover that…or maybe I was off the day they did.
Get it now, yeah very apt, but I think you have made your point over all this time.
But other POTUS had already tried other tactics.
Crimea? Largely ignored.
2022 sanctions introduced, and made stronger over time. Arguably not strong enough, but Trump talking up dropping sanctions when he came into office? It is retrying a failed idea. That is moving into reverse.
But aren’t you arguing against your previous stance?
You pointed out that Russia is nuclear power and that Putain is not to be trusted to be rational.
Was Biden a “paper tiger” or was he avoiding escalating an already bad situation?
The world does not need gung-ho nutters with big bombs. Let Hollywood play at that, not real life.
Yep ok.whatever.
I’ve come to the conclusion this is just yet another pointless argument with nothing to achieve.
You can put it down as a win if ya like.
For the moment…
I’m oot.