Busy Mr Trump

Dunno about you but I believe all religions are nonsense. I’m happy for followers of the aforementioned religions to believe what they want. I do however have a smidge of a problem when certain religions call for their followers to kill anyone who doesn’t follow their particular sky fairy. Call me old fashioned if you like.

What about you?

The US Constitution is specifically non-religious.
Not always respected in fact, but some abuse it more than others. ,

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I’m pretty much with you there.

Do you know of any religions that actually say that?
Ever seen that in action? Y’know the faithful of any religion killing any, and all who are different?

I have seen non-followers of religions taking isolated bits of text and interpreting it in certain ways.
I do not recall seeing any actual followers of a religion saying they want to kill all non followers.

Many religions seem to have some intolerance built in, how about setting wild animals on kids if they call out rude names?

Seriously? :joy::joy::joy: I’ve quoted that specifically so that when you realise what you have just unbelievably written and try to edit it that you can’t.

Unbleedingbelievable

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I’ll repeat in the vain hope of an answer, not your usual position of the exact opposite of what anyone says.

Franglais, have a day off man.
You know EXACTLY what I mean…there is no need to live up to your reputation.

As an example of my point…
Given the record of certain religions if 2 young guys of Arabic appearance looking shifty carrying haversacks got on the same bus as me (as it actually happened in fact in Budapest with my Mrs) I’d be off (and was) at the next stop.

If 2 Christian nut job Bible Bashers got on looking shifty…not a ■■■■ would be given.

Stop being a complete chump.

what extremists… the only extremists are the free palestine mob, the anti ice mob and all the other left wing blue haired idiots. oh wait they were just having fun while someone that speaks the truth is a real extremist huh 3/10 back in your box

Welcome back Frangers :smile:

Speaking of ‘Complete (lefty) Chumps’'…look at this silly cow.
And this is exactly what we are up against with this pi55 poor party and government.
WAY out of touch with the vast majority of the people in the country they are making a complete balls up of running.


Unable to put the actual vid up here, but you get the drift.
Not sure how long ago this was but I’m sure ‘‘someone’’ will tell me.:grin:

The armed mob who attacked Police on Jan 6th, and were pardoned by Trump.

You got an answer.
I am with you on not liking any religion particularly. I think they are all nonsensical.

And you also got a question, which you have not answered. Since you posted this

Do you know of any religions that state non-believers should all be killed?

Chapter 9 verse 9 of some strange book…..

And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners , and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free . Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

Verse 5, my apologies

You never fail to impress me mate.:joy::joy:

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That says nothing about killing all non believers does it?
That translation talks of idolatry being wrong.
Idolatry is also a sin in other religions such as Christianity, and that has been punished by death in the past. I don’t know whether or not Christians gave the idolators the chance to mend their ways as shown in the verses you quoted in translation.

So, I guess you do not know of any religions that say non-believers should be killed, then?

I’m getting the vibe here of falling into one of Franglais’s ‘point scoring’’ traps, but I’ll go with it anyway.:roll_eyes: so here goes.

Isn’t it ‘‘the thing’’ with Palestine to..
quote;‘‘Kill all Jews’’.

Isn’t it ‘‘the thing’’ with the state of Iran to..
quote; …‘‘Wipe Israel off the map’’.

Are both these states ran on heavy religiously infused politics?

Which religion is it that is practiced in both of these appaling and disgusting states again?..just remind me…
Oh yeah it’s the ’ peaceful religion’’ of Islam we keep hearing about, the one whose mantra for generations has been ’ Kill all infidels’'…or '‘unbelievers’ .

Now as far as I remember (and far be it for me to stick up for any bloody religion) in comparison the Christian mantra is ‘‘Love thy neighbour’’.
So THAT is the reason for my ‘‘preference’’ (again term used VERY loosely) to Trump’s religious leanings, over Ayatholla Khomeni’s.

Also my reason for getting off that bus in Budapest that day..

And if you want to go there, the reason for my hatred of the young Islamic men (coincidentally of fighting age) taking the pissout of my country presently.

Yep Franglais… the man who’s second nature is to argue Black is in fact White (unless of course you agree with that in which case he’ll refute it) :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

The man who makes the original Comical Ali of Iraq look like John Pilger…a serious journalist.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

The man who could (or at least attempt to) put a positive spin on even the likes of Hitler, Poll pot and Atilla the Hun…(but just for effect of course)

And ALL from an almost radical ‘Far Left’ pespective.

Franglais…The gift to Trucknet that keeps on giving.:joy::joy:

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Well it’s widely accepted by Muslim scholars that that particular verse is the green light to wage Jihad.

Hang on a minute, what am I thinking? Of course Islamic scholars have got it wrong, they should maybe have consulted the oracle of Franglais first. What were they thinking? It stands to reason that a man who gets his opinions straight from the Labour manifesto and just disagrees for the sake of it would know better than them.

Let me ask you this Franglais; if for a moment we accept that the Quran actually doesn’t say in bold “KILL ALL INFIDELS” then what motivation do you personally think drives these suicide bombers as they scream about Alan’s snackbar or whatever? Pray tell.

It has been said variously that one Iranian General did comment in 2019 that they then had the capability to “wipe Israel off the map”. I can’t see the original quote anywhere and would be reliant on translations of it.
Similarly Israel has spoken of wiping Hamas of the face of the Earth.
And Trump (that nice peaceful Christian bloke) has talked about the “obliteration” etc of Iran.

And try reading about how Israel and Palestine were brought together by the USA and Norway. Look at Oslo and the 1994 Nobel peace prize.
A very much more hopeful and peaceful time. It was then Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat.
Look at how more recently Israel supported Hamas!

It is a very complex and always moving picture.

Really? How many do you know of?
Care to give your sources for that?

Someone on this forum was allegedly quoting the Quran…and getting it wrong…it wasn’t me, was it?