Buses, coaches, & lorries

Wigan Bus Station earlier today, 24/11/2020. The Police car has " ANPR INTERCEPTOR " on the bonnet,
and a London number plate. I think it may belong to British Transport Police, who have an office on the
platform of Wigan North Western railway station, just 200 yards from this location. Ray Smyth.

I used to be able to identify buses and lorries very easily, but not so anymore.
This Stagecoach bus is seen leaving Wigan Bus Station on route 113 to Preston.
It has an Optare appearance but I could be wrong. 24/11/2020. Ray Smyth.

A " Diamond " bus entering Wigan Bus Station on route 132 from the
Trafford Centre in Manchester. 24/11/2020. Ray Smyth.

Ray Smyth:
I used to be able to identify buses and lorries very easily, but not so anymore.
This Stagecoach bus is seen leaving Wigan Bus Station on route 113 to Preston.
It has an Optare appearance but I could be wrong. 24/11/2020. Ray Smyth.

This is an Optare Versa.

A mixture of buses at the Water Street terminus near the Pier Head, Liverpool,
in the mid to late 1970s. The 1st and 4th buses are Leyland PD2s with bodywork
by Massey Bros of Wigan, originally new to Birkenhead Corporation, and are now
in the fleet of Merseyside Passenger Transport. The 2nd bus is a Leyland Atlantean
ex Liverpool Corporation, and the 2 red buses are Leyland PD3s of the Ribble fleet.
Other fleets now within Merseyside Passenger Transport were from Southport,
St Helens, and Wallasey Corporations. Picture from Bootle Times Forum.

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An early 70’s scene in Glasgow with what was to become the Buchanan Bus Station on the left being used as a makeshift car park.

August and September 2015 Shearings at Dingwall.
Oily


I just found this picture of St-Quentin railway station (North France) after it was rebuilt following a fire in 1922. Its main interest is, of course, the bus/coach parked on the left. Who will tell more about it (make, model) and say why it went wandering on the Continent?

Froggy55:
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I just found this picture of St-Quentin railway station (North France) after it was rebuilt following a fire in 1922. Its main interest is, of course, the bus/coach parked on the left. Who will tell more about it (make, model) and say why it went wandering on the Continent?

It looks like a Leyland , were they Cubs ?

Froggy55:
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I just found this picture of St-Quentin railway station (North France) after it was rebuilt following a fire in 1922. Its main interest is, of course, the bus/coach parked on the left. Who will tell more about it (make, model) and say why it went wandering on the Continent?

Just before the war, I would think: late '30s. That coach looks like a Leyland Tiger TS8. Typical '30s sweep of coachwork and what looks to me like skylights set into the curve of the roof, a feature which became popular later, in the '50s. It is, of course, possible that it was taken after the war in the late '40s or early '50s when coach travel to the Continent really began to take off. There were plenty of old pre-war black cars on the road both here and in France so the cars wouldn’t look out of place post-war. Just my opinion. Row

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Froggy55:
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I just found this picture of St-Quentin railway station (North France) after it was rebuilt following a fire in 1922. Its main interest is, of course, the bus/coach parked on the left. Who will tell more about it (make, model) and say why it went wandering on the Continent?

Just before the war, I would think: late '30s. That coach looks like a Leyland Tiger TS8. Typical '30s sweep of coachwork and what looks to me like skylights set into the curve of the roof, a feature which became popular later, in the '50s. It is, of course, possible that it was taken after the war in the late '40s or early '50s when coach travel to the Continent really began to take off. There were plenty of old pre-war black cars on the road both here and in France so the cars wouldn’t look out of place post-war. Just my opinion. Row

skylights set into the curve of the roof
Harringtons of Hove coachwork a guess for that era.
Oily

Some pictures of the same Albion Lowlander bus. First is when it was on loan to Glasgow Corporation Transport. The second is when it was being operated by Bamber Bridge and the third is with Ribble after the destination display had been changed to their preferred design.

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A line up of Albion and Leylands from the early 60’s at Glasgow Corporation Transports Parkhead garage. Two of the fleet can be seen in the new livery which was introduced at that time.

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Some pictures taken in and around Wigan Bus Station 3/12/2020.
Arriva bus on route 362, Wigan to Chorley, and pictures 2 and 3
are Vision Bus Co from Bolton on the 639, a long circuitous route
which takes about 1 hour & 25 minutes, and is never more than
6 miles from the bus station. Vision Bus Co is new to me… during
the last 12 months the 639/640 route has been operated by a firm
called " Warringtons Bus ", before that, these routes were operated
by Diamond Bus.

Ray.

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An Ailsa Volvo of the Midland fleet of SMT in Scotland, with bodywork by Alexander of Falkirk.

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Seeing as we’re on a Scottish theme this is a similarly Alexander AD code bodied bus but this time on a Dennis Dominator chassis. This was the first Dominator (D1) supplied to Central and took part in the SBG bus trials of the late 70’s/early 80’s alongside a MCW Metrobus, Ailsa and Leyland Olympian.

Picture by Gordon Stirling

Staying on the Central SMT fleet these pics show the contrast between the Bristol VRLL and VRT in relation to engine placement. The VRLL was delivered in 1966 and returned to Bristol Commercial Vehicles in 1970. An order for 20 VRT’s was delivered in 1969 but they didn’t last long as they were swapped for Bristol FLF’s in 1973 with members of the National Bus Co. For some reason the VRT never found favour with the Scottish Bus Group.

Pics courtesy of centralsmt.co.uk

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A Highland Albion Lowlander with bodywork by Northern Counties of Wigan.
There was not a lot Lowlanders south of the border, Ribble Motor Services
had about 16 of them with bodywork by Alexander of Falkirk, 6 of which were
at Wigan depot where I spent 2 years in the late 1960s, and they performed well.
Not my picture. Ray.

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Ray Smyth:
A Highland Albion Lowlander with bodywork by Northern Counties of Wigan.
There was not a lot Lowlanders south of the border, Ribble Motor Services
had about 16 of them with bodywork by Alexander of Falkirk, 6 of which were
at Wigan depot where I spent 2 years in the late 1960s, and they performed well.
Not my picture. Ray.

Of the 274 Lowlanders built 80 of them were supplied to operators in England - around 30%. A lot more than you would have thought.