Buses, coaches, & lorries

[valkyrie]

OilTreader:
Finding a few Fodens, starting with Foden Works Band coach, in original livery and later.
Oily

TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches & Lorries. P18. Foden,AEC,Bedford. VALKYRIE . Tuesday,27th November,2018 .

In reply to OilTreader and Jshepguis . Page 16.

NOTE: I haven’t got the time,and in some cases the information, to research, and caption every photograph!

Foden PVRF6 Rear Foden Two Stroke Diesel-Engined/Plaxton Venturer C41C Motorcoach,Chassis No.31234,Body No.737, OLG 855,Cheshire,September,1951,Foden Motor Works Band Motorcoach till 1979.Preserved.B.Skeates-OilTreader.1#

Foden SDG6/Foden B32F Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.15488, AMB 833,Chester,12-1933,The Green Bus Service,No.9,Rugeley. Ronnie Cameron-OilTreader.1#

Foden PVRF6 Rear Foden Two Stroke Diesel-Engined/Desot B…D Single Decker Bus.Registered 4503.P,permit 91-438,1955,TCM Cars,Vice,Belgium.One of three -C Nos.32294,33830,33832.Jean Phillipe Dheure-OilTreader.1# Two were built in 1952 and had Ateliers Metallurgique C…C motorcoach bodies,one was registered 784715 and had permit 91-372;both received xxxx.P registrations in 1955.

Foden PVSC6/Roberts B35F Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.32228, GSA 303,Aberdeen,6-1951,Strachan’s Deeside Omnibus Service,Ballater. Ronnie Cameron-OilTreader.1#

Foden PVRG6,Rear Gardner Diesel-Engined/Lawton DP43F Single Decker Motorcoach-Bus,Chassis No.31230 ,VRF 742,Stafford,1952,Rowbotham,No.11,Harriseahead. Ronnie Cameron-OilTreader.1#

Foden - NC,Rear Diesel-Engined/East Lancs H45/29D Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.94508,Body No.8001, SWG 311S,2-1978,South Yorkshire Transport,No.511.8 were built,2 survive.FivePrime.1#

Foden PVD6/East Lancs H32/26R Double Decker Bus,Chassis No.39832,Body No.5214, OED 217,3-1956,Warrington,No.112.Preserved. Ian Roberts-OilTreader.1#

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QUOTE OilTreader » Tuesday,13th November,2018 7:22 pm

One of a kind.
Oily
"AEC Sparshatts Airport Bus
1972, Aircraft Park, On long term display
This unusual coach was built in 1972 by Sparshatts of Portsmouth (later part of Wadham Stringer group of companies) for use at Bangladesh Airport. Due to internal problems in that country, it was never delivered and was registered in Britain as LLH 889K on 7th April 1972 then operated instead by British Airways at HeathrowAirport.

The unusual feature of a door at the front of the bus unfortunately makes it illegal to operate on public roads so it is therefore restricted to an airport site. It was donated to The Aerospace Museum at RAF Cosford in 1982 for display with other exhibits forming the BritishAirwaysMuseum.

Following the dispersal of the British Airways exhibits at the RAF Museum at Cosford in 2006, this unique vehicle was donated to Brooklands Museum."
UNQUOTE.

AEC Swift 5P2R/Sparshatt B36D Single Decker Airport Bus,Chassis No.5P2R1136, LLH 889K,3-1972.One of three built.BOAC,British Airways,Heathrow.Brooklands Museum.Simon A W Beeston.1#

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QUOTE by Jshepguis » Thursday,15th November,2018 12:31 pm

This bus was one of a small fleet run by Percy Dunning from Great Ayton in North Yorkshire. School trips i can remember travelling on this UNQUOTE.

AEC Reliance MU3RV/Roe Dalesman MkIII C41C Motorcoach,Chassis No.MU3RV1012,Body No.GO4264, JHL 581,5-1956.New to West Riding,No.801.Commercial Motor Show exhibit,1956.Jshepguis .1#

QUOTE OilTreader » Tuesday,20th November,2018 5:29 pm

A selection.
Oily UNQUOTE. Page 17.

Bedford VAS5/CIE/MSL B33F Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.7860031, EZL 1,11-1967,Coras Iompair Eireann,No.SS1,then Bus Eireann SS1 2-1987.Wd 9-1991,preserved by Transport Museum Society 1993.OilTreader.1#

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[valkyrie]

Oiltreader:
Scans from The Wonder Book of Motors, a Xmas present in1949.
Oily

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TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches & Lorries. P18. AEC,Bedford,Bristol,Crossley,Leyland,Thornycroft. VALKYRIE . Wednesday,28th November,2018 .

In reply to OilTreader . Pages 16,17 & 18. Part 1.

Thornycroft 3-Ton ,5 Horsepower Compound Steam-Engined,Double Decker Omnibus,1902,London Road Car Company. Hammersmith & Oxford Circus Bus Service,March to May 1902. Topical Press.1#

AEC Reliance 660/Strachan & Brown FB32F Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.660080, GU 5942,London,5-1929,London,North,Eastern,Railway=L.N.E.R.,No.73.One of 12.The Wonder book Of Motors-OilTreader. 1#

AEC Regent/Short H26/24RO DD Bus,Chassis No.661039, CP 8009,11-1929,Halifax,No.53. The Wonder Book Of Motors,1949 - OilTreader.1#

AEC Regal 662/Harrington C21R Motorcoach,Chassis No.662015, UR 6300,Hertford,4-1930,LMS Railway,Watford.Later with Crosville MS,No.T4,re-bodied ECW DP32R,No.6091,1939.Wonder Book Of Motors-OilTreader1#

AEC Regent/Roe Leeds City Pullman H31/25R Double Decker Bus,Chassis No.06615322, FNW 719,1937,Leeds,No.400.First four bay DD bus in Leeds fleet. OilTreader.1#

AEC Regal 662/Harrington Dorsal Fin C33F Motorcoach,one of six - Chassis Nos.6622978-83, EUC 371-376,London,1-1938,Timpson’s. TH 1938 is a publicity false registration. OilTreader.1#

Leyland Gnu TEP1/Alexander C40F,6x2 Twin Steer Chinese Six,SD Motorcoach,Chassis No.16571,Body No.1818, WG 6676,Stirling,12-1937,W.Alexander,Bluebird,No.P436,Falkirk.Wonder Book Of Motors-OilTreader.1#

QUOTE OilTreader » Tuesday, 20th November,2018 5:29 pm

A selection.
Oily UNQUOTE.

Daimler COG/1939 Metro-Cammell H30/24R Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.10073, CVP 207,11-1937,Birmingham,No.1107.Re-bodied 6-1950.Preserved. Martin49-OilTreader.1#

QUOTE OilTreader » Friday,23rd November,2018 6:54 pm

All aboard.
Oily UNQUOTE.

Bristol K5G/ECW = Eastern Coach Works H30/26R Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.53035, GHT 154,SIMPLICITY,11-1940,Bristol,No.C3336.Became a Fairground Bus,now preserved.FoundInAAtic-OilTreader.1#

Crossley SD42/7/Crossley B32R Single Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.98140, DBN 978,9-1949,Bolton,No.8.Currently in Manchester Streamline Livery.Richard Ash-OilTreader.1#

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[oiltreader]

Thanks VALKYRIE for supplying all the detail
Oily

[ray_smyth]

Lancashire United Transport Guy with bodywork by Northern Counties,
at Lime Street in Liverpool, on route 320 from Wigan. It is either late
1960s or early 1970s. The 320 route was a joint service operated by
Ribble Motor Services, Lancashire United Transport, Wigan Corporation,
and St Helens Corporation. I never ever saw a St Helens bus on the 320,
perhaps they were a “Sleeping Partner”.
Ray Smyth.

[carryfast]

Ray Smyth:
Lancashire United Transport Guy with bodywork by Northern Counties,
at Lime Street in Liverpool, on route 320 from Wigan. It is either late
1960s or early 1970s.
Ray Smyth.

Yellow number plates in the scene so not earlier than 1973 ?.

[pyewacket947v]

Ref Valkeries wonderfully informative posts.
What a beautiful looking vehicle that Leyland Gnu in fig 7 is.
The BCT Daimler in fig 8 CVP 207, would be fitted with a 5 cyl Gardner.
I drove a COG 5 converted into Lorry 19 for towing and gritting on many occasions.
Towing was great fun, oh so slow uphill, and very exciting going down and all with a fluid drive.

[gingerfold]

Bolton Transport number 86 at Golders Green London in 1941. This 1934 Leyland TD3c with Bromilow and Edwards body (the local coachbuilder in Bolton) was on hire to the LPTB to cover wartime demands. It was one of 30 Bolton Transport double deckers that saw service in London in WW2. It would have been a long and slow journey for the 200 miles from Bolton to London. Bolton must have had a surplus of buses at that time, other notable wartime hires were to Crosville, ■■■■■■■■■■■ BMMO, Liverpool, Widnes, Grimsby, and Coventry who had 32 Bolton buses, some of which were still there in 1946. Local operator LUT also had 21 as much of its route network was into Trafford Park and many of the Trafford Park factories were employing many more people to cope with wartime production.

[gingerfold]

Bolton Transport 1938 Leyland Tiger single decker (Saloon number 1) outside the offices of Leyland Motors, just along the road from Leyland’s South works. (Now part of the BCVM). The saloon had taken the Bolton Transport Committee for a works visit. A senior driver would have been allocated that particular duty.

Bolton Transport changed its livery several times during its existence. Two examples are shown here, waiting outside the late Fred Dibnah’s house on Radcliffe Road, The Haulgh, Bolton.

An evocative period shot (along with suitable cars) of Leyland Atlantean in Victoria Square, Bolton, outside the Town Hall. Once an attractive setting, the town planners completely destroyed it and it’s now a pedestrianized area.

[ramone]

I’ve just been past Keedwells yard at Rufforth
near York and noticed they lool to have moved out. A few years
ago there was what looked like a York Pullman AEC Regent rotting away but that looks to have gone too does anyone know if it was too far gone or saved?

[carryfast]

gingerfold:
An evocative period shot (along with suitable cars)

Especially the two proper big BMC’s Westminster and 6110 together.Better than the bus.

[240_gardner]

cav551:
There is a marked difference between Haulage operators and busmen.As the attched AROnline article details, haulage men on the whole are hard headed businessmen who see their vehicles simply as an asset to produce an income. Busmen are an entirely different different species, just about everything is about the vehicle, it is almost a love affair; to paraphrase from one of the industry’s royalty - Geoffrey Hilditch : “There was many a damp eye when the last of those vehicles left the depot for the final time”.

aronline.co.uk/facts-and-fi … ulfrunian/

Hmmmm I think that there are many hauliers who would take issue with that! There is a large number of hauliers who have restored, either vehicles from their own fleets, or bought-in motors acquired to represent a part of their history.

Whilst I would agree that the busmen are a different species, perhaps their keenness revolved around the fact that, in decades gone by (and in which they developed their careers), much of the public transport system was operated by publicly-owned authorities, and so the enthusiasts were spending someone else’s money!

[oiltreader]

With permission from and thanks to Dave Fawcett.
Oily

[cav551]

240 Gardner:

cav551:
There is a marked difference between Haulage operators and busmen.As the attched AROnline article details, haulage men on the whole are hard headed businessmen who see their vehicles simply as an asset to produce an income. Busmen are an entirely different different species, just about everything is about the vehicle, it is almost a love affair; to paraphrase from one of the industry’s royalty - Geoffrey Hilditch : “There was many a damp eye when the last of those vehicles left the depot for the final time”.

aronline.co.uk/facts-and-fi … ulfrunian/

Hmmmm I think that there are many hauliers who would take issue with that! There is a large number of hauliers who have restored, either vehicles from their own fleets, or bought-in motors acquired to represent a part of their history.

Whilst I would agree that the busmen are a different species, perhaps their keenness revolved around the fact that, in decades gone by (and in which they developed their careers), much of the public transport system was operated by publicly-owned authorities, and so the enthusiasts were spending someone else’s money!

I would agree with you, except that as soon as the old man has popped his clogs the younger generation seem to want to sell their birthright for a mess of pottage, or more colloqially get rid of their family heritage for a new Range Rover.

’ They don’t fit with the image we want to project as a modern forward thinking company’ = “logistics solutions innovation initiatives” . Excuse me while I throw up.

[240_gardner]

cav551:

240 Gardner:
Hmmmm I think that there are many hauliers who would take issue with that! There is a large number of hauliers who have restored, either vehicles from their own fleets, or bought-in motors acquired to represent a part of their history.

Whilst I would agree that the busmen are a different species, perhaps their keenness revolved around the fact that, in decades gone by (and in which they developed their careers), much of the public transport system was operated by publicly-owned authorities, and so the enthusiasts were spending someone else’s money!

I would agree with you, except that as soon as the old man has popped his clogs the younger generation seem to want to sell their birthright for a mess of pottage, or more colloqially get rid of their family heritage for a new Range Rover.

’ They don’t fit with the image we want to project as a modern forward thinking company’ = “logistics solutions innovation initiatives” . Excuse me while I throw up.

I’m with you on that one. I don’t know the people, the company or the circumstances so am in no position to pass judgement, but I was sad to see the Jack Richards collection being sold off

[ray_smyth]

Wilts & Dorset Bristol LWL5G, Fleet No 565, Reg No LAM 745 was new in 1954. It was converted,
along with many others to front entrance/one man operation in 1959. Also seen are two more of
the Bristols after conversion. Most of the class lasted until 1969.

Ray Smyth.

[retired_old_fart]

Ray Smyth:
Wilts & Dorset Bristol LWL5G, Fleet No 565, Reg No LAM 745 was new in 1954. It was converted,
along with many others to front entrance/one man operation in 1959.

Nice old photo of the model I first drove at the age of 16- only in Bristol Omnibus’ Gloucester garage, though! I don’t think that any of Bristol’s own fleet were converted to o.m.o. as underfloor Gardner-engined single-deckers had started to take over by then, accompanied by the luxury of a synchro gearbox.

[ray_smyth]

Two Ribble Leyland PD3s heading down London Road in Liverpool, which at this point
is “One Way Traffic”. Both buses are showing “L3 CROSBY”. The bus on the left will soon
turn right, and proceed to Crosby, the bus on the right will turn left on to Lime Street,
and soon arrive at the Ribble Bus Station on Skelhorne Street. The conductor on this bus
has already been upstairs to change the indicator blind.
Ray Smyth.

[cav551]

Today is the Ensignbus vintage bus running day. Three routes probably about 15+ buses.

More here: ensignbus.com/runningday2018.html

[deanb]

oiltreader:
Thanks VALKYRIE for supplying all the detail
Oily

+1

[deanb]

1965. Click on pages twice to read.