Buses, coaches, & lorries

Blackpool couple.
Oily

Thanks to Oily for these two Blackpool bus pictures. Blackpool Corporation always give me the
impression that they used local suppliers as much as possible for the supply of buses, As far as
I am aware, these two buses were Leyland Atlanteans from Leyland, and bodywork built by
East Lancs Coachworks from Blackburn, both towns less than twenty miles away.

Ray.

Star down under.:

ParkRoyal2100:
Good work SDU, whose bodywork? Wouldn’t have come with a Fuller/ RR as standard would it?

As built specs, back in the 70s MAN would fit RRs. I had a mate who owned a MAN prime mover, that had a 13 speed on the column.
Body by GBW, all management from Denning immediately after their demise. You don’t have to squint to see the design cue’s and influence from Denning.

Thanks for the info SDU. It was on the tip of my tongue to say Denning, but only cos I know of only two tour coach builders of the time, Denning and Volgren.

A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

ParkRoyal2100:
A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

I always thought that the 6v92 fitted in some Bedford TMs sounded better than the 6 or 8v71 and even the 8v92.
The 12 and 16v71 being exceptions those are just awesome.The latter both in terms of its torque from idle let alone noise.
There are some 12v71 powered coaches in preservation.

Carryfast:

ParkRoyal2100:
A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

I always thought that the 6v92 fitted in some Bedford TMs sounded better than the 6 or 8v71 and even the 8v92.
The 12 and 16v71 being exceptions those are just awesome.The latter both in terms of its torque from idle let alone noise.
There are some 12v71 powered coaches in preservation.

It must be a matter of musical taste, this diesel sound thing. I’ve never been able to get my head round the aesthetic joy of two-stroke anything, be it Detroit, Foden, Commer or motorbikes. Give me the mellifluous tones of a Leyland 0.680, a 14-litre ■■■■■■■■ a V8 Scanny or an 8LXB any day! :laughing:

ERF-NGC-European:

Carryfast:

ParkRoyal2100:
A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

I always thought that the 6v92 fitted in some Bedford TMs sounded better than the 6 or 8v71 and even the 8v92.
The 12 and 16v71 being exceptions those are just awesome.The latter both in terms of its torque from idle let alone noise.
There are some 12v71 powered coaches in preservation.

It must be a matter of musical taste, this diesel sound thing. I’ve never been able to get my head round the aesthetic joy of two-stroke anything, be it Detroit, Foden, Commer or motorbikes. Give me the mellifluous tones of a Leyland 0.680, a 14-litre ■■■■■■■■ a V8 Scanny or an 8LXB any day! :laughing:

It’s probably a subjective thing that like music depends a lot on what we grew up with and in my case was
formed by a lot of time spent around tuned 6 and 8 cylinder car engines then my introduction to working with and driving trucks in large part consisted of Detroit engined vehicles unusually for this country but a result of the sector I started out in.
All of which left me with the analogy of the MOTOWN wall of sound in the case of those v George Harrison type acoustic guitar In My Sweet Lord for Rolls 265 and DAF 2800 for example.I like them both equally.
But in general I prefer the sound of 6 or 12 cylinders to 8.Bearing in mind the sound of a Merlin or better 4 of them running at 2 to 3,000 rpm nails it for me as the definitive sound of the internal combustion engine and as good as it gets.

Carryfast:

ERF-NGC-European:

Carryfast:

ParkRoyal2100:
A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

I always thought that the 6v92 fitted in some Bedford TMs sounded better than the 6 or 8v71 and even the 8v92.
The 12 and 16v71 being exceptions those are just awesome.The latter both in terms of its torque from idle let alone noise.
There are some 12v71 powered coaches in preservation.

It must be a matter of musical taste, this diesel sound thing. I’ve never been able to get my head round the aesthetic joy of two-stroke anything, be it Detroit, Foden, Commer or motorbikes. Give me the mellifluous tones of a Leyland 0.680, a 14-litre ■■■■■■■■ a V8 Scanny or an 8LXB any day! :laughing:

It’s probably a subjective thing that like music depends a lot on what we grew up with and in my case was
formed by a lot of time spent around tuned 6 and 8 cylinder car engines then my introduction to working with and driving trucks in large part consisted of Detroit engined vehicles unusually for this country but a result of the sector I started out in.
All of which left me with the analogy of the MOTOWN wall of sound in the case of those v George Harrison type acoustic guitar In My Sweet Lord for Rolls 265 and DAF 2800 for example.I like them both equally.
But in general I prefer the sound of 6 or 12 cylinders to 8.Bearing in mind the sound of a Merlin or better 4 of them running at 2 to 3,000 rpm nails it for me as the definitive sound of the internal combustion engine and as good as it gets.

Absolutely! And good point about associative sound memory with good times. :sunglasses:

ParkRoyal2100:

Star down under.:

ParkRoyal2100:
Good work SDU, whose bodywork? Wouldn’t have come with a Fuller/ RR as standard would it?

As built specs, back in the 70s MAN would fit RRs. I had a mate who owned a MAN prime mover, that had a 13 speed on the column.
Body by GBW, all management from Denning immediately after their demise. You don’t have to squint to see the design cue’s and influence from Denning.

Thanks for the info SDU. It was on the tip of my tongue to say Denning, but only cos I know of only two tour coach builders of the time, Denning and Volgren.

A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

Our local bus company ran a few Dennings, back when our Grandkids were still at school. The older buses were always put on ‘the school run’ and in the afternoons, my wife and I would often sit in the back garden knowing that between 3.20 p.m. and 3.30 p.m. we would hear the sound of the Detroit coming along the road at the back of us. Even my wife could tell what bus it was just by the sound of the engine. That was the signal for Nana to go and put the toaster on and to get the jar of Vegemite out of the fridge. :slight_smile:

I see that they have still got a couple of Dennings.

widebaytransit.com.au/

I vaguely remember visiting a Denning coachbuilder somewhere on The Gold Coast in the late nineties, or did I dream that. :confused:

You might like this Park Royal.
youtube.com/watch?v=mIOMD_G-JbA

mushroomman:

ParkRoyal2100:
Thanks for the info SDU. It was on the tip of my tongue to say Denning, but only cos I know of only two tour coach builders of the time, Denning and Volgren.

A 1990 Denning Landseer (Detroit 6v92ta) for your listening pleasure (I’ve been on a few, never forgotten the noise):
youtube.com/watch?v=VL2YphPm01k

Our local bus company ran a few Dennings, back when our Grandkids were still at school. The older buses were always put on ‘the school run’ and in the afternoons, my wife and I would often sit in the back garden knowing that between 3.20 p.m. and 3.30 p.m. we would hear the sound of the Detroit coming along the road at the back of us. Even my wife could tell what bus it was just by the sound of the engine. That was the signal for Nana to go and put the toaster on and to get the jar of Vegemite out of the fridge. :slight_smile:

I see that they have still got a couple of Dennings.

widebaytransit.com.au/

I vaguely remember visiting a Denning coachbuilder somewhere on The Gold Coast in the late nineties, or did I dream that. :confused:

You might like this Park Royal.
youtube.com/watch?v=mIOMD_G-JbA

Back at you MM

youtube.com/watch?v=A4NlHJeBND0

AFAIK Denning were based in Acacia Ridge (Brisbane) but you can get a lot more info on the Bus Australia forums.
Incidentally, I’d forgotten that Denning made deckers as tour coaches: busaustralia.com/forum/down … p?id=72416

This Leyland PD2, fleet number 1497, is probably the very last rear entrance bus in the Ribble fleet.
It is parked at Old Haymarket bus terminus in the centre of Liverpool on route 55, a joint service
with Liverpool Corporation Passenger Transport.

Ray.

A 30ft Guy bus of Lancashire United Transport on route 320, soon to depart from the terminus
in Liverpool city centre on its 89 minute journey to Wigan, via Prescot, St Helens, & Haydock.
Click for full picture.

Ray.

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A Maudslay coach from Macbraynes in Bonny Scotland.
Maudslay were eventually taken over by AEC.

Ray.

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Ray Smyth:
A Maudslay coach from Macbraynes in Bonny Scotland.
Maudslay were eventually taken over by AEC.

Ray.

Beautiful Ray.

Ray Smyth:
A Maudslay coach from Macbraynes in Bonny Scotland.
Maudslay were eventually taken over by AEC.

Ray.

Maudslay probably best remembered for their Trucks.
Lloyd’s of Ludlow had quite a few, some of which have been preserved.


Maudslay Mogul III - JAC21


Maudslay Meritor - KXU781

TROOPER2:

Ray Smyth:
A Maudslay coach from Macbraynes in Bonny Scotland.
Maudslay were eventually taken over by AEC.

Ray.

Maudslay probably best remembered for their Trucks.
Lloyd’s of Ludlow had quite a few, some of which have been preserved.

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Maudslay Mogul III - JAC21

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Maudslay Meritor - KXU781

Both absolutely stunning.

Re ^^^ . The last time I saw a working Maudsley was 52 years ago in 1970 when I took this picture of it working on a fairground on Tankerton Slopes in Whitstable that Summer:

ParkRoyal2100:
Back at you MM

youtube.com/watch?v=A4NlHJeBND0

AFAIK Denning were based in Acacia Ridge (Brisbane) but you can get a lot more info on the Bus Australia forums.
Incidentally, I’d forgotten that Denning made deckers as tour coaches: busaustralia.com/forum/down … p?id=72416

Thanks for that P.R. I enjoyed that. :smiley:

I hope that you haven’t been affected by the floods down there, so I hope that you don’t need one of these.

youtube.com/watch?v=83lwedVFFeg

Lots of lads will remember the Top Deck double decker’s that toured Europe and Asia in the 70’s and 80’s. I took these while we were waiting to go over to Fraser Island a few years ago.

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Those disability buggies would probably fetch a few bob these days . In my memory every one that I remember seeing was blue .

There used to be a place in Stretford , adjacent to the Bridgewater canal that specialised in repairing these things , and fitting steering wheel mounted hand controls to regular cars for drivers with certain disabilities .