Assuming that there is a heavy flow of traffic in both directions and the bus lane is empty.
Trucks have no option but to un/load where the one in the pic is.
To stop either flow of traffic will cause massive tailbacks.
You are approaching from the bottom of the page.
Would you keep the traffic flowing by using the bus lane if it was clear
This is a real life situation that occurs on a regular basis on the A47 Uppingham road (Leicester bound) in the Humberstone area on the outskirts of Leicester city.
Harry Monk:
Quite simply, this situation shouldn’t occur in the first place- the bus lane should be removed for a short stretch opposite the loading bay.
No loading bay - truck is parked on main carriageway as there is nowhere else to go.
If I know I was not going to get a ticket, I would unload in the Bus Lane, but know doubt I would, so I would be on the other side of the road causing a tail back and holding everything up. In this day and age of ridiculous rule’s and regs, to get on in this industry you have to go with them and just moan about them to your friends.
Yesterday I had a house removal job to load onto a 40ft Hicube Container. It was in Central London and had to put up with 5 hours of atitude and witty quips from the residents of the road as 100ft of permit parking had been suspended so that I could park my lorry there.(boss not happy. Only 150 ft inside the congestion charge.) Many time’s in the past I have had these sort of jobs without parking suspensions and the removal men turns round and say double park. I am sure that some people walk around with there heads firmly stuck up… ooops I mean in the sand. Luckily today I am unloading one via a loading bay in Kettering.
i would personally blcok the bus lane tbh, it would be easier for a bus to pull out of the lane into the main carraigeway to pass than to block one lane of traffic,
obviously bus drivers and traffic wardens wouldnt see it this way but its the most sensible answer.
The question is, as the driver of a moving vehicle approaching from the botom of the page, would you use the bus lane for the short distance to allow the free flowing of the traffic in both directions
There is usually a constant stream of traffic in both directions for most of the day so anything that breaks either flow will cause long tailbacks.
The question is, as the driver of a moving vehicle approaching from the botom of the page, would you use the bus lane for the short distance to allow the free flowing of the traffic in both directions
There is usually a constant stream of traffic in both directions for most of the day so anything that breaks either flow will cause long tailbacks.
ahh right sorry misunderstood you, though you were asking if you were having to park to unload lol,
yea of course id use the bus lane for that section if it was empty just to keep things moving,
Mike-C:
How do the goods get across the road from the bus lane side if you where to unload there?
take them across with a pallet truck or push the cages, wouldnt be the first time or the last time ive ran across a road with cages or even up the road with them.
If you’re moving ‘up the page’, I don’t see that the traffic on the other side having to wait to pull out around the loading truck is really your problem. It’s certainly not a reason to go into the bus lane if you’re not allowed to.
The only thing I would say is that if you’re likely to get stopped on your way ‘up the page’, then you should not stop next to the loading truck in such as way as to prevent the people coming down the page from pulling out while you’re stopped. I failed my first Cat-C by doing this, though of course it was really the fault of the person in the car in front of me
wilbur:
If you’re moving ‘up the page’, I don’t see that the traffic on the other side having to wait to pull out around the loading truck is really your problem. It’s certainly not a reason to go into the bus lane if you’re not allowed to.
So you would effectively stop the oncoming traffic by staying out of the empty bus lane and cause a massive traffic tailback - did I get that correct
This is interesting as there are many considerations - SAFE, LEGAL, CONVENIENCE, THOUGHTFUL, BEING SENSIBLE etc etc
I’l let you know later what the greatest majority of regular users on that stretch of road do
Obviously I’m confused, but I thought that the bus lane was 24-hr, and it was therefore illegal to drive a truck in it. To my mind, that definitely trumps the requirement for courtesy to people coming the other way, who need to pull-out onto the ‘wrong’ side of the road to pass a parked vehicle.
If you want to let people pass the parked truck as a point of courtesy, then surely the correct way to do that is to hold short of it in your lane, not illegally drive in the bus lane?
But I’ve probably misunderstood the question - almost everyone else seems to have done.
wilbur:
Obviously I’m confused, but I thought that the bus lane was 24-hr, and it was therefore illegal to drive a truck in it. To my mind, that definitely trumps the requirement for courtesy to people coming the other way, who need to pull-out onto the ‘wrong’ side of the road to pass a parked vehicle.
If you want to let people pass the parked truck as a point of courtesy, then surely the correct way to do that is to hold short of it in your lane, not illegally drive in the bus lane?
But I’ve probably misunderstood the question - almost everyone else seems to have done.
You have understood it perfectly
To stop in your lane and let the oncommers through WILL cause a big tailback and to not let the oncommers through WILL cause a big tailback - the only way to not cause a big tailback is to use the 24/7 bus lane, if clear, for a short distance… that is the dilemma…
IMO if it was me i would use the bus lane, but only if the flow of traffic in front of me is doing the same and there was no form of detection equipment IE camera on buses or on the bus lane.
In road law as I am in the lane I have priority to say in my lane and not use the bus lane as it is a 24/7 lane, the oncoming traffic would in law have to give way to me as the obstruction in in there lane and therefore i have the right of way, regardless of the bus lane been there or not.
I would not use the bus lane if I was driving a lorry but if appropriate I would give way to some oncoming vehicles.
Using the bus lane could course more confusion as people behind you may not be able to immediately realise what was going on as oncoming vehicles started to pull out to go past the stationery parked vehicle.
Container Boy 2009:
If I know I was not going to get a ticket, I would unload in the Bus Lane, but know doubt I would, so I would be on the other side of the road causing a tail back and holding everything up. In this day and age of ridiculous rule’s and regs, to get on in this industry you have to go with them and just moan about them to your friends.
Yesterday I had a house removal job to load onto a 40ft Hicube Container. It was in Central London and had to put up with 5 hours of atitude and witty quips from the residents of the road as 100ft of permit parking had been suspended so that I could park my lorry there.(boss not happy. Only 150 ft inside the congestion charge.) Many time’s in the past I have had these sort of jobs without parking suspensions and the removal men turns round and say double park. I am sure that some people walk around with there heads firmly stuck up… ooops I mean in the sand. Luckily today I am unloading one via a loading bay in Kettering.
James
There is nothing lucky about having to go to Kettering Just out of interest where was it you were tipping??
A long long time ago a traffic cop in sheffield moved me because I had the front wheel of the truck just on the zig zags for a pedestrian crossing.Literally just on slightly on the zig zag.
He then proceeded to stop traffic and move me onto the opposite side of the road ,in a bus lane!!!
This caused chaos as buses had to move back over to get around me…
Multi drop ■■■■■ …
Just out of interest where was it you were tipping??