corij:
■■■■■ tyres never last the distance. its a fact . mostly youre very lucky if you get 15k from brand new - whereas the well known makes its not unheard of getting 30k
Don’t you know when you buy Chinese you’ll need another one half an hour later?
Punchy Dan:
Cheap tyres are not all bad ,some are better than well known makes ,for example we have tried on ifor Williams trailers India gt ,max miler ,other makes I can’t even remember and Avon which went out of shape and all blew off within 3 months ,since we’ve been using a make called trailer maxx we have never had a bad one ,and ones that get a puncture have been repaired and lasted until Worn out where others have gone out of shape not long after having a puncture repaired .
On a trailer where they’re not likely to be doing a lot of controlling of direction of the vehicle, braking of said vehicle or having to cope with a couple of hundred BHP being put through them.
corij:
■■■■■ tyres never last the distance. its a fact . mostly youre very lucky if you get 15k from brand new - whereas the well known makes its not unheard of getting 30k
Don’t you know when you buy Chinese you’ll need another one half an hour later?
absolutely!
heres summat iv been wondering, i live across the street from a chinkie and if i ring up its “5 minutes ready” ,so i get to thinking the huge array of choices are all pre prepared and just heated up in microwave on order. but how come when i go to collect my meal theres a sound of a sizzling wok being stirred coming from behind a curtain . is it a tape playing cooking sounds?
I drove some 6 cylinder versions as fire fighting vehicles and liked them more than the 4 cylinder ones.That engine was really well suited to it with more torque and surprised they didn’t drop the inferior 4 pot and standardise on the 6 until the V8 was put in it.Going by the colour this one might even be an ex fire type.
Conor:
You have to share the road with someone who owns a powerful car they can’t afford to maintain. Tyres, brakes, steering, suspension, all of these are expensive on one of those cars, all are the things that stop them piling into you that they’ll be shortcutting on.
^ This.
All expensive and consumable items and which need to be replaced with known quality original manaufacturer kit and on a preventative basis not when they are at the margins of their useful life.
switchlogic:
once I’ve saved up for a Discovery 3. That will have chunky BF Goodrich all round with steel wheels. They are far and away the best off road tyres in my opinion
Luke, I’ve got Cooper Discoverer AT3s in LT spec fitted to my Discovery 2 and can’t fault them. Been in deep mud, snow etc and had no issues at all. They are a fair bit cheaper than the BFGs too
Punchy Dan:
Cheap tyres are not all bad ,some are better than well known makes ,for example we have tried on ifor Williams trailers India gt ,max miler ,other makes I can’t even remember and Avon which went out of shape and all blew off within 3 months ,since we’ve been using a make called trailer maxx we have never had a bad one ,and ones that get a puncture have been repaired and lasted until Worn out where others have gone out of shape not long after having a puncture repaired .
Traiermaxx are made by Maxxis which is a brand of Cheng Shin Rubber of Taiwan. They are about the 10th biggest tyre manufacturer in the world. No problem with their tyres. In bike tyres they are one of the leading brands.
Punchy Dan:
Cheap tyres are not all bad ,some are better than well known makes ,for example we have tried on ifor Williams trailers India gt ,max miler ,other makes I can’t even remember and Avon which went out of shape and all blew off within 3 months ,since we’ve been using a make called trailer maxx we have never had a bad one ,and ones that get a puncture have been repaired and lasted until Worn out where others have gone out of shape not long after having a puncture repaired .
On a trailer where they’re not likely to be doing a lot of controlling of direction of the vehicle, braking of said vehicle or having to cope with a couple of hundred BHP being put through them.
Actually on Ifor Williams type trailers they tend to get very hot because they are only 12 or 13 inch diameter and are quite often low profile to keep the height down. 195 50 13 is common so there is not much air inside (at 90psi). You also have little spare capacity as they are rated at 900kg per tyre so on heavy braking the front tyres will often be overloaded on a 2 axle set up loaded to 3500kg, (We have looked for higher rated tyres, in that size, but I do not believe they exist.)
Braking can be harsh with over run brakes, especially if being towed behind a truck.
They might not be controlling the direction but those poor little trailer tyres almost come off the rims when someone decides to do a full lock turn when manouvering a loaded trailer.
Dead on there manski the 195 50 13 is a great wheel n tyre but prone to wheel damage on the kerbs as the rim is wider than the wall ,the 195 60 12 rides very smooth .
corij:
■■■■■ tyres never last the distance. its a fact . mostly youre very lucky if you get 15k from brand new - whereas the well known makes its not unheard of getting 30k
Not true. I checked on my new van which came with Michelins from the dealer. The fronts lasted 24600 miles (completed in 7 months). When they were spent, they were replaced with Chinese Briways, which were less than £20 each. I got 25200 miles out of those in a tad over the next 7 months, and the averaged MPG on the van’s computer was 61.3mpg - compared to 58.7mpg from the Michelins. I know there are some really nasty tyres out there, but I was quite shocked by the outcome of what was essentially a trial with the Briways. FWIW, they performed worse than what are currently on the van - which are Three-A P306s. They’re £2 dearer than the Briways, but already they’re working out more economical, as the computer was showing 64.7mpg as an average over the 2600+ miles covered since they went on last month. I put some Three-A P606 215/50 17s on my Focus last July and the mpg, grip & tyre noise improved over the Goodyears they replaced - and they were less than £36 each. The Goodyears were double the price.
Knocking out a pair of Michelins in that time suggests a certain style of driving to me. I’ve been using Michelins for quite a few years now and they’ve been good for 50,000+!