Harry Monk:
I put £50 cheapie tyres on my cars, never had a problem with them wearing excessively, going flat or losing traction. I don’t tend to drive like a loon though. I think with premium brand tyres you are paying quite a bit towards some Formula 1 driver’s luxury apartment and yacht in Monaco.
Think you got a point there Harry
He would have had a point were it not for the fact that all the F1 tyres are supplied by Pirelli…
Wheel Nut:
Why are they part worn? Because it’s the salvage parts of the other car that hit a tree, kerb, bridge etc.
I wouldn’t ever use second hand or cheap tyres,
Not every part worn have come from a smashed car…
But you have no way of knowing what it came from, or (more importantly) what level of abuse and/or damage has been inflicted on it by its previous owner. I wouldn’t touch part-worn tyres (or brake parts for that matter) with a bargepole. One of the first things I do when buying a used car is to get some new rubber fitted. It’s simply not worth the gamble.
Thousands of people buy partworns every week - they’re fitted to partworn cars…
…that could have been shall we say less than sympathetically driven.
Harry Monk:
It’s worth remembering that Hankook was regarded as a cheap 'n nasty Korean Mickey Mouse tyre when it first appeared on the market but is now standard fitment to (some) Toyota and BMW cars, and is widely used on commercials.
Quite correct too, Bridgestone originally built motorcycles and motor scooters, they sold tyres made with nylon and if you have any left they will look as good as they did in the showrooms.
Wheel Nut:
Why are they part worn? Because it’s the salvage parts of the other car that hit a tree, kerb, bridge etc.
I wouldn’t ever use second hand or cheap tyres,
Not every part worn have come from a smashed car…
I agree, a lot come from Germany where the legal limit is 4mm, and of course they are all taken off the cars with utmost care and stored, no chance of them ever hitting a kerb or having a major repair is there? [emoji14]
The legal limit in Germany is the same as the rest of Euroland - 1.6mm
I will give you that one, it’s 4mm for Winter tyres
Go and find the local part worn lads and crack up a deal .barter every tyre .its what i use on my 06 van .Never had any problems sinse 1987 using part worn tyres …
Most of the premium brands have a subsidiary company which makes cheaper, mid range tyres, for most drivers, even in a 330 BMW these will be fine, they might not last as long, but he’s only doing 4000 miles per annum, they also might not have the latest construction or compound technology, but people managed to drive cars in the past without that.
As for those saying he should buy something he can afford to run, what business is it of yours what he drives?
Although personally for me when a car costs a bit to get through the MOT, especially if it’s corrosion, then I get rid of it, because it will probably be equally costly when MOT time comes round next year.
I fitted maxis tyres to my 3.0 bmw and so far so good. I went from premium brand run flats to these non run flats and they’re way better and a lot cheaper! No tram lining and a lot quieter. Grip seems similar, I.e rwd fun can be had in the wet but only if provoked. Wear seems ok but at 4000 miles a year I wouldn’t be concerned with that if I were him.
Harry Monk:
It’s worth remembering that Hankook was regarded as a cheap 'n nasty Korean Mickey Mouse tyre when it first appeared on the market but is now standard fitment to (some) Toyota and BMW cars, and is widely used on commercials.
Quite correct too, Bridgestone originally built motorcycles and motor scooters, they sold tyres made with nylon and if you have any left they will look as good as they did in the showrooms.
The nylon in Japanese motorcycle tyres of yore was in the internal plies (where European manufacturers typically used rayon) not the “rubber” part that is in contact with the road.
Harry Monk:
It’s worth remembering that Hankook was regarded as a cheap 'n nasty Korean Mickey Mouse tyre when it first appeared on the market but is now standard fitment to (some) Toyota and BMW cars, and is widely used on commercials.
Quite correct too, Bridgestone originally built motorcycles and motor scooters, they sold tyres made with nylon and if you have any left they will look as good as they did in the showrooms.
The nylon in Japanese motorcycle tyres of yore was in the internal plies (where European manufacturers typically used rayon) not the “rubber” part that is in contact with the road.
Quite possibly but they were to be kept in the garage in rain, they didn’t flex much and were horrendous [emoji14]
I have an old moped on genuine tyres, it’s nearly 40 year old and they feel like Bakelite [emoji23]
Harry Monk:
It’s worth remembering that Hankook was regarded as a cheap 'n nasty Korean Mickey Mouse tyre when it first appeared on the market but is now standard fitment to (some) Toyota and BMW cars, and is widely used on commercials.
Quite correct too, Bridgestone originally built motorcycles and motor scooters, they sold tyres made with nylon and if you have any left they will look as good as they did in the showrooms.
The nylon in Japanese motorcycle tyres of yore was in the internal plies (where European manufacturers typically used rayon) not the “rubber” part that is in contact with the road.
Quite possibly but they were to be kept in the garage in rain, they didn’t flex much and were horrendous [emoji14]
I have an old moped on genuine tyres, it’s nearly 40 year old and they feel like Bakelite [emoji23]
TBH any tyre that’s more than a decade or two old will feel like bakelite!
Wheel Nut:
Why are they part worn? Because it’s the salvage parts of the other car that hit a tree, kerb, bridge etc.
I wouldn’t ever use second hand or cheap tyres,
Not every part worn have come from a smashed car…
But you have no way of knowing what it came from, or (more importantly) what level of abuse and/or damage has been inflicted on it by its previous owner. I wouldn’t touch part-worn tyres (or brake parts for that matter) with a bargepole. One of the first things I do when buying a used car is to get some new rubber fitted. It’s simply not worth the gamble.
Thousands of people buy partworns every week - they’re fitted to partworn cars…
…that could have been shall we say less than sympathetically driven.
Anyone with a modicum of common sense (self-preservation if you prefer) will have a part-worn car checked over for damage/wear before they use it on the road. Unfortunately many of the typical failure/damage modes for tyres are difficult to detect by simply looking at them externally.
I approach it from the viewpoint of “If you/your family’s life is cheap - then buy a cheap tyre”.
If he can’t afford decent tyres for it then he can’t afford to maintain it.BMW’s hate pattern parts and genuine BM parts cost lots of cash with tyres being one of the lowest cost consumables.He’ll get a shock when it needs it’s first top end over haul if he can’t even afford a decent set of Continental or Goodyear or Fulda tyres for it.
It’s been proven and also widely used that fear is what drives people to hand out their money for things they really don’t have the need for most effectively.
Obviously the advertisement agencies have done a splendid job to get people to believe in crap like “no price is high enough for the safety of my family”.
My wife’s car runs on Nankang tyres in summer and studded Firestones in the winter. My Volvo has Nordexx summer tyres and Hankook studs for winter. But then again, seeing as I don’t drive my family around in an armored Hummer I don’t care too much for them anyway, right?
Carryfast:
If he can’t afford decent tyres for it then he can’t afford to maintain it.BMW’s hate pattern parts and genuine BM parts cost lots of cash
I think you’ll find that most BMW pattern parts are made by the same manufacturers as genuine parts, to the exact same specification, on the exact same assembly lines, only the printing on the box (and the price) are different. A “genuine” BMW alternator, for example will cost twice as much as a Bosch alternator purchased from a motor factor, even though it is the exact same thing.
Wheel Nut:
Why are they part worn? Because it’s the salvage parts of the other car that hit a tree, kerb, bridge etc.
I wouldn’t ever use second hand or cheap tyres,
What I under stand from delivering pw,in containers is that they come from Germany and places were there rules are more strick
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This.
The UK has a very low 1.6mm minimum tread depth, other parts of Europe are much higher. Far better to fit premium part worns like Bridgestone/ Michelin/ Avon ect than cheap budget chinese tyres…
Carryfast:
If he can’t afford decent tyres for it then he can’t afford to maintain it.BMW’s hate pattern parts and genuine BM parts cost lots of cash
I think you’ll find that most BMW pattern parts are made by the same manufacturers as genuine parts, to the exact same specification, on the exact same assembly lines, only the printing on the box (and the price) are different. A “genuine” BMW alternator, for example will cost twice as much as a Bosch alternator purchased from a motor factor, even though it is the exact same thing.
Finding out who originally made the part for the manufacturer (Like Bosch) and buying from them is one thing but if you have ever handled or tried to fit pattern panels you will know they are crap and nothing like genuine.
Carryfast:
If he can’t afford decent tyres for it then he can’t afford to maintain it.BMW’s hate pattern parts and genuine BM parts cost lots of cash
I think you’ll find that most BMW pattern parts are made by the same manufacturers as genuine parts, to the exact same specification, on the exact same assembly lines, only the printing on the box (and the price) are different. A “genuine” BMW alternator, for example will cost twice as much as a Bosch alternator purchased from a motor factor, even though it is the exact same thing.
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And this
Many premium brands like Delphi/ Mann/Valeo/Bosch ect are sold and boxed by vehicle manufacturers as ‘genuine parts’ at a much higher price…