BRS Fleet Numbers

A rough list from 1965

Lonewolf Yorks:
As a model maker I like to have things accurate. I’ve been doing a small amount of research into BRS who were before my time and I understand that the lorries depot could be identified by the fleet number. Anyone know where I could see a list of depot numbers?

Hi Lone wolf . It would seem that the i/d numbers were all changed at some point Oxford was 44G --later on it was MA so it would depend on your model and year to be authentic i suppose—toshboy

toshboy:

Lonewolf Yorks:
As a model maker I like to have things accurate. I’ve been doing a small amount of research into BRS who were before my time and I understand that the lorries depot could be identified by the fleet number. Anyone know where I could see a list of depot numbers?

Hi Lone wolf . It would seem that the i/d numbers were all changed at some point Oxford was 44G --later on it was MA so it would depend on your model and year to be authentic i suppose—toshboy

yeah as the fleet numbers were changed again when BRS was split into ‘regions’ - eastern , midlands etc , as i remember Corby being KS & Northampton KW - all eastern starting with the letter K & being registered at Derby head office for eastern

Vehicles from the Peterborough depot in the early 80’s were given fleet numbers begining KY. Trailers were prefixed with T.

When they went to regional colours Midlands vehicles were blue, head office was headington rd. Oxford all the fleet numbers started with M.
some of the ones I can remember are
MA-oxford
MB-banbury
MC-smethwick
MD-b’ham
ME-wolverhampton
MJ-oldbury
MT-worcester?
MZ-wellington,telford

lone Wolf, I have them all in Arthur Ingram’s Book BRS the Early Years, if you let me know which area your interested in, I’ll list them but there are 21 pages of them, it also give the names of companies seconded in to BRS for each depot. Car tansporters were all “S”

Just to add, I see it’s Leed’s your interested in, here you go…North Leeds group, Kirkstall Rd 22D…South Leeds group, water La 23D…Central Leeds 24D…then it goes, Hull 25D…Bridlington 20D…Selby 26D…North Hull 27D…East Hull 28D…Halifax 40D…Ripponden 41D…Huddesfield 42D …South Bradford 43D…Central Bradford 44D… Airdale 45D…Dewsbury/Batley 46/D…West Bradford 47D, hope these help. Cliff

Chris Webb:

sammyopisite:
Hi Lonewolf, I do not know where you can get a list but I will see if the magazine which is sent quarterly to retired drivers as any information on it. I can tell you Sheffield had “JA” as my dad did a few years there and his fleet number was JA292 on a Leyland Beaver PWE212E I think the reg. was Docaster was “JD” so that will start you off at least and I reckon you will get most off of the old red and rust on here .
cheers Johnnie

Barnsley was JB I remember and I think Chesterfield BRS was in the J series as well. I’m sure Sheffield used to be DA until they renumbered everything.
Here’s one of Sheffield BRS,a Beaver with JA code.I’ve had a lift in her when on a dodgy :laughing:

I thought Sheffield were de-da chris

revman:

Chris Webb:

sammyopisite:
Hi Lonewolf, I do not know where you can get a list but I will see if the magazine which is sent quarterly to retired drivers as any information on it. I can tell you Sheffield had “JA” as my dad did a few years there and his fleet number was JA292 on a Leyland Beaver PWE212E I think the reg. was Docaster was “JD” so that will start you off at least and I reckon you will get most off of the old red and rust on here .
cheers Johnnie

Barnsley was JB I remember and I think Chesterfield BRS was in the J series as well. I’m sure Sheffield used to be DA until they renumbered everything.
Here’s one of Sheffield BRS,a Beaver with JA code.I’ve had a lift in her when on a dodgy :laughing:

I thought Sheffield were de-da chris

:smiley:
Sheffield came under South Yorkshire District, 60D - 68D in the early years of Nationalization…
60D Central Sheffield Group; 61D Chesterfield; 62D Attercliffe; 63D Park Group; 64D Doncaster; 65D Barnsley; 66D Hallam; 67D South Yorks Parcels; 68D Sherwood.
I’m sure that when the codes were changed Sheffield was DA etc before JA etc…

John is the oracle on BRS, he was a really great help to us during a recent restoration project.

It may take me a week but I will search out his address and get back to you.

If I have not got back to you by this time next week jog my memory with a PM please.

As a model maker I like to have things accurate. I’ve been doing a small amount of research into BRS who were before my time and I understand that the lorries depot could be identified by the fleet number. Anyone know where I could see a list of depot numbers?

Hi Lonewolf, I do not know where you can get a list but I will see if the magazine which is sent quarterly to retired drivers as any information on it. I can tell you Sheffield had “JA” as my dad did a few years there and his fleet number was JA292 on a Leyland Beaver PWE212E I think the reg. was Docaster was “JD” so that will start you off at least and I reckon you will get most off of the old red and rust on here .
cheers Johnnie

Northampton was KW.

Have you looked in the Mustoe and Ingram books “BRS the early years” and “BRS Parcels” and Nick Baldwins “BRS - A Pictorial History”, all available from Nynehead Books. Lots of the captions mention the wagon’s base, and there are some partial lists. There were also the Ian Allan ABC booklets in the 1950’s and '60’s, the BRS one had a list, and one edition has been re-issued in recent years, available from Ian Allan shops and some other specialist bookshops. Be aware that BRS changed their numbering system a couple of times!

Lonewolf Yorks:
As a model maker I like to have things accurate. I’ve been doing a small amount of research into BRS who were before my time and I understand that the lorries depot could be identified by the fleet number. Anyone know where I could see a list of depot numbers?

I see you come from Yorkshire. There is a gentleman by the name of John Mollett who lives in Leeds who has done a lifetimes research on BRS fleet and depot numbers. I can’t find his address at the moment but try asking around.

Cheers all! I have seen the Baldwin book but that does no more than list the 8 regions lettered A-H, Where does J come in? Ah is this the change in numbering :open_mouth:

I may be from Yorks, but I’m a hell of a long way from Leeds, who would I ask?

sammyopisite:
Hi Lonewolf, I do not know where you can get a list but I will see if the magazine which is sent quarterly to retired drivers as any information on it. I can tell you Sheffield had “JA” as my dad did a few years there and his fleet number was JA292 on a Leyland Beaver PWE212E I think the reg. was Docaster was “JD” so that will start you off at least and I reckon you will get most off of the old red and rust on here .
cheers Johnnie

Barnsley was JB I remember and I think Chesterfield BRS was in the J series as well. I’m sure Sheffield used to be DA until they renumbered everything.
Here’s one of Sheffield BRS,a Beaver with JA code.I’ve had a lift in her when on a dodgy :laughing:

Lonewolf Yorks:
Cheers all! I have seen the Baldwin book but that does no more than list the 8 regions lettered A-H, Where does J come in? Ah is this the change in numbering :open_mouth:

I may be from Yorks, but I’m a hell of a long way from Leeds, who would I ask?

If you go on Ebay , look in the top right corner and find and click “community”, then scroll down and click on “groups”. Type BRITISH ROAD SERVICES (BRS PARCELS) into the search box, then the site will open up. There’s a long list of topics on there, and the subject of fleet numbers comes up regularly. The site is run mainly for the benefit of modellers. You might need to register before you can get to the good stuff. Good luck and good hunting.

On General Haulage Vehicles i.e. the red ones they did change the system a few times, the period 1965/68 the first letter was the region i.e. North west was “C” the second letter was the Depot, in my case it was “J” which was Cressy Road, Hampstead, London which was the London Depot that looked after the North West Traffic. So the waggons I had on Trunk or shunted on a regular basis were CJ39, CJ46 both Bristol Units with the Leyland 600 engines, CJ56 a Bristol unit with the Leyland 680 engine, CJ71 a Mk 5 AEC Mandator and CJ119 an Ergo cabbed Mandator. The numbers were on an age related basis and the various North West depots would have been CA (Greenhays, Manchester) CB etc. Earlier to this period, dates unknown their was a much longer numbers, then letters and then numbers code. I hope this has been of some assistance…Tony.

Hi lone wolf
grandad drove from spring street in Bristol is fleet number was 5g going back a bit 50s/60s

hiya,
Two depots i worked at Blackburn Lancs was CT another depot i worked at was Consett Co Durham which was DM.
thanks harry lon retired.