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Franglais:

Monkey241:

Franglais:

Monkey241:

Franglais:

Monkey241:

OwenMoney:
Brexit: Did the EU ban crown marks on pint glasses? From the Reality check team

The Crown symbol on glasses was associated with a particular measure.
Using it in conjunction with the CE would have been a nonsense

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Can we guess that crown symbol is available on rosy tinted glasses?

You can guess what you please.
You lost this debate nearly 6 years ago.

(It’s rose - tinted by the way [emoji6])
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(By the way):

collinsdictionary.com/dicti … glish/rosy
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio … glish/rosy
vocabulary.com/dictionary/rosy
vocabulary.com/dictionary/rosy
dictionary.com/browse/rosy
merriam-webster.com/diction … ,adjective

Great set of links- none of which support your argument
The expression is ‘rose tinted spectacles’

Rosy tinted would also be a tautology [emoji6]

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But who speaking of “spectacles”?

Rose tinted glasses being the play on words.

Either way ‘rosy tinted’ is a tautology and by definition redundant.

If something is rosy it already has the hint of rose colouring.

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If I were to be pedantic I could point out that glasses (drinking vessels) could well be decorated with roses, and hence be rosy. So “rosy tinted” wouldn’t be at all tautological.
But since you seem to set great score on all of this.
Yes. An error of style.
Thank you for your input on my posting composition.
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Quite handy it is a distraction from the Brexit fred ain’t it?

anon84679660:

GORDON 50:
If the country voted remain in 2016 then in a few years time it would be Albanians, Ukranians and who knows…Kazaks or even uzbeks coming en mass. So a bit like a choice between a kick in the goolies or a punch in the face.

Have there been any plans of Albanians, Ukrainians and Kazakhs joining the EU?
It’s all news to me.
Is that what your mates down the pub told you recently or do you have any reliable source of information?
And Even if you add the whole popilation of Albania (a whopping 2.8 million people in total) + population of Ukraine (41.3 million people) + population of Kazakhstan (19 million people) = roughly 62 million people all together, how does this compare to India’s population of 1 billion and 352 million people?
In your eyes, these are comparable numbers, populations.

Does 62 million equals 1.352 billion to you ? Do these two numbers look about the same?

Not sure if you are aware, Gordon, but Kazakhstan is not anywhere near the EU.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you were suggesting Kazakhstan is planning to join China , as it is a chinese neighbour, or some kind of asian Union of countries, but joing the EU?

Even Kazakhs would be surprised at your suggestion.

Your reasoning is all over the place and desperation is not allowing you to use logic anymore.

I’ve heard, for the last 15 years , from the some quaters of the UK’s political scene, some scary stories of Turkey joing the EU, how has this gone so far?
Is Turkey in the EU, are they joining soon, and if so, when?

It does look like some of those Tory’s that voted for Brexit, agree with you and Monkey on the idea of welcoming Indis immigrants as part of the trade deal:

Sir Edward Leigh Tory MP demanded that Boris Johnson does not give in to the Indian government, if one of the requests is to allow more of its people to come to live and work in Britain. He said that “working class” voters who supported Brexit didn’t want to replace one set of foreigners with another set.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ic7c8hWHtRM

Someone needs to tell Sir Edward Leigh , a Tory Brexit voting MP, Brexiters on trucket are OK with any immigrants as long as they are not white EU citizens, as clearly he doesn’t know his own electorate’s preferences.

Albania was awarded candidate status in 2018 according to the EU website. Kazakstans ambassador to Russia has stated publicly that he would like to see his country join the EU just like the baltic states have, ok, not exactly a confirmed candidate but the general direction is clear, as for Uzbekistan etc yes, that’s just guesswork but who would have thought 30-40 years ago that the whole of eastern europe would join. As for numbers, as already stated on here, freedom of movement without any limits is different to visa controlled immigration. It’s plainly clear where the EU is going, it will expand even more, and the newer countries won’t be the better off ones like Switzerland or Norway, they’ll be the poorer eastern countries which haven’t really got much to offer.

Franglais:
If I were to be pedantic I could point out that glasses (drinking vessels) could well be decorated with roses, and hence be rosy. So “rosy tinted” wouldn’t be at all tautological.
But since you seem to set great score on all of this.
Yes. An error of style.
Thank you for your input on my posting composition.
.
Quite handy it is a distraction from the Brexit fred ain’t it?

Be as pedantic as you like…but being pedantic requires being correct. The glass painted with roses would still not be rosy tinted.
Have another go.

As for Brexit, no distraction needed. I’ve already pointed out Hkloss’ f$ckwittery. [emoji6]

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Monkey241:

Franglais:
If I were to be pedantic I could point out that glasses (drinking vessels) could well be decorated with roses, and hence be rosy. So “rosy tinted” wouldn’t be at all tautological.
But since you seem to set great score on all of this.
Yes. An error of style.
Thank you for your input on my posting composition.
.
Quite handy it is a distraction from the Brexit fred ain’t it?

Be as pedantic as you like…but being pedantic requires being correct. The glass painted with roses would still not be rosy tinted.
Have another go.

As for Brexit, no distraction needed. I’ve already pointed out Hkloss’ f$ckwittery. [emoji6]

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Oh my.
“Rosy glasses” could be
1 glasses decorated with roses
2 glasses made of rosy hued material
By using the term “rosy tinted” I eliminated any ambiguity.
Thus, no tautological crime has been committed.
.

Franglais:

Monkey241:

Franglais:
If I were to be pedantic I could point out that glasses (drinking vessels) could well be decorated with roses, and hence be rosy. So “rosy tinted” wouldn’t be at all tautological.
But since you seem to set great score on all of this.
Yes. An error of style.
Thank you for your input on my posting composition.
.
Quite handy it is a distraction from the Brexit fred ain’t it?

Be as pedantic as you like…but being pedantic requires being correct. The glass painted with roses would still not be rosy tinted.
Have another go.

As for Brexit, no distraction needed. I’ve already pointed out Hkloss’ f$ckwittery. [emoji6]

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Oh my.
“Rosy glasses” could be
1 glasses decorated with roses
2 glasses made of rosy hued material
By using the term “rosy tinted” I eliminated any ambiguity.
Thus, no tautological crime has been committed.
.

But 1 or more rose decorated glasses wouldn’t be rosy tinted - is that what you’re saying? To be fair, I wouldn’t call a rose decorated glass rosy either.

It seems you mangle English as well as you mangle French.

It’s quite a talent you have there [emoji1787]

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From the very own , Brexit supporting newspaper.

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure

It’s been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a new year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country – both Brexiteers and Remainers – that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to No 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats. Ditto removing the ban on selling in pounds and ounces.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunnelled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government’s own admission, neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The pacts are supposed to “pave the way” for Britain’s entry to the £9 trillion Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, whose members include major economies such as Canada, Japan and Mexico. But membership of this big club remains aspirational for now and there are serious questions about the overall benefits to exporters given the physical distance between the UK and the Pacific region.

It has also been pointed out that the UK may be required to make the kind of compromises that Brexiteers persistently cited as one of the main reasons for leaving the EU.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one-year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond our reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free-trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative – and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum – which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s new year message – has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos Mori poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to question whether they will ever get what they wanted.

telegraph.co.uk/business/20 … c-failure/

anon84679660:
From the very own , Brexit supporting newspaper.

Time is running out to prove Brexit is not a historic failure

It’s been five years since the referendum. 2022 is the year reality needs to match the hype

The Prime Minister had an inspiring message for everyone on New Year’s Eve: get vaccinated to help stop the spread of omicron. It should be everyone’s resolution for 2022, he said, although with 82.5pc of those aged 12 and over double-jabbed, and 59.3pc already topped up with a booster, it was not a rallying cry to divide the nation in “take back control” style.

Still, in the spirit of telling others what to do, here’s a new year’s pledge for Boris Johnson. Prove to the people of this country – both Brexiteers and Remainers – that Brexit isn’t destined to become a historic failure.

It’s been five long years since the shock referendum result and 12 full months since Britain burst free from the shackles of Brussels. Yet even some of the most ardent Brexiteers are beginning to reluctantly concede that life outside the EU has yet to live up to its billing. Lord Frost’s resignation from the Cabinet last month partly expressed that disappointment.

The Government too seems to have tacitly acknowledged such frustrations with a press release to mark the end of 2021 that promised “to build on Brexit achievements in 2022”. Coming just as several trade bodies warned that new customs checks would wreck imports from the bloc, with one predicting they would become “more expensive, less flexible and much slower”, it was comically bad timing.

According to No 10’s missive, among the “key successes” so far is “taking back control of our borders”, a boast not necessarily supported by the record number of Channel crossings in 2021 when arrivals tripled to more than 28,000, or the exodus of legal migrant EU workers that has left some industries facing a workforce crisis.

Still, if nothing else, surely we can all agree that when it comes to “axing red tape”, the return of the crown stamp on to the side of pint glasses counts as a significant victory over those pesky Brussels bureaucrats. Ditto removing the ban on selling in pounds and ounces.

It’s pretty weak stuff from the Downing Street spinners. Perhaps all those parties are catching up with them. What has happened to all the big free trade deals that were promised? In their search for benefits, officials are scraping the bottom of the barrel with such fury that they have tunnelled through to the antipodes.

The Prime Minister can talk all he likes about “landmark deals” with Australia and New Zealand but by the Government’s own admission, neither will move the dial when it comes to GDP or cheaper goods.

The pacts are supposed to “pave the way” for Britain’s entry to the £9 trillion Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, whose members include major economies such as Canada, Japan and Mexico. But membership of this big club remains aspirational for now and there are serious questions about the overall benefits to exporters given the physical distance between the UK and the Pacific region.

It has also been pointed out that the UK may be required to make the kind of compromises that Brexiteers persistently cited as one of the main reasons for leaving the EU.

The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one-year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond our reach as ever. The unfortunate reality anyway is that for all the political hot air that they generate, most free-trade deals have very little impact owing to their limited scope.

But it’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved elusive. It’s worse than that. The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment has been almost overwhelmingly negative – and things could get a lot worse.

Goods coming into Britain face a fresh avalanche of paperwork, threatening more supply chain dislocation and to overwhelm our ports. The Northern Ireland conundrum – which stumped Lord Frost and failed to merit a mention in the Prime Minister’s new year message – has been handed to Liz Truss, whose recent ascendency is better evidence of the Government’s weakness than her strengths. Food prices could spiral further after a year in which inflation had hit 5.2pc by the end of November.

For the time being, the Government still has the electorate on its side but only just perhaps. While a recent Ipsos Mori poll found just 24pc of the population favoured rejoining the EU, results of a separate survey for Opinium showed that 42pc of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

Voters aren’t mugs. Ministers can’t keep dismissing the downsides as teething problems. Nor will the public continue to accept the jam tomorrow version of events. When Boris says the Government will go “further and faster” in 2022 to maximise the opportunities of Brexit, he should be held to it.

This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to question whether they will ever get what they wanted.

telegraph.co.uk/business/20 … c-failure/

I got what I wanted already

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anon84679660:
This is the year when reality should finally match all the hype, otherwise even the most staunch Brexiteers may be forced to question whether they will ever get what they wanted.

telegraph.co.uk/business/20 … c-failure/

Brexit has been a success for the off shore bankers as the UK didn’t have to sign up to the EU banking/tax disclosure laws. The UK and it’s territories are the worlds worst for money laundering. So Aaron Banks, JrMogg and the mega rich are very happy with brexit.
The Edwina Curry interview was very telling when she was asked to name any benefits to stupid brexit…indy100.com/politics/edwina … c-b1985889

Still early days yet, the benefits won’t come instantly but over the longer term and most level headed people understood that there will be a bumpy ride at first. Look at it like a divorce or separation, no instant winners but the bonuses come further down the road by no longer being in a bad relationship.

Teething problems?
Or as Monkey says, “he got what he wanted”?

Brexit Shortages Ruin Christmas Shop

youtube.com/watch?v=-W5hmOWm-QY

GORDON 50:
Still early days yet, the benefits won’t come instantly but over the longer term and most level headed people understood that there will be a bumpy ride at first. Look at it like a divorce or separation, no instant winners but the bonuses come further down the road by no longer being in a bad relationship.

The sensible among us always knew it was a long term game. However with the demise of the EE invasion (no doubt blamed on covid) I am quids in already…happy days!

msgyorkie:
The sensible among us always knew it was a long term game. However with the demise of the EE invasion (no doubt blamed on covid) I am quids in already…happy days!

You know what? That ^^^ about sums it up for me personally. I don’t cross borders so I’m not affected. When I go shopping I, without fail buy what I intended to, my wages have increased by roughly 25% and the armchair anarchist in me loves the idea of “sticking it to da man”, and the biggest bonus is the knicker wetting and teeth gnashing displayed that gives me such a warm glow when I observe it. Petulant and childish? Of course it is, but it still makes me smile.

Every time there is an anti Brexit doom and gloom story in some vague media outlet it gets posted on here very quickly by the rabid remainers drooling at the bit, fingers bashing so quick so hard on the keyboard that they have to proof read and repair their spellings…YET a story FOR Brexit is conveniently ignored.
So for balance here is one… ROBERT HARDMAN: Brexit success story to make Remoaners choke on their sea bass | Daily Mail Online

A funny paragraph has made me chuckle as it has happened on our own forum here by certain individuals. …"Talk about an inconvenient truth. This time last year, as Britain adjusted to post-EU trading rules, the airwaves and TV studios were full of gloating Remainers yelling ‘I told you so’ as exporters struggled to make sense of the new systems. "

Stupid Brexit!!!

Yeah but, but, but……

I’m sure it won’t be long before one of the usual suspects finds some bad news in this!

msgyorkie:
Every time there is an anti Brexit doom and gloom story in some vague media outlet it gets posted on here very quickly by the rabid remainers drooling at the bit, fingers bashing so quick so hard on the keyboard that they have to proof read and repair their spellings…YET a story FOR Brexit is conveniently ignored.
So for balance here is one… ROBERT HARDMAN: Brexit success story to make Remoaners choke on their sea bass | Daily Mail Online

A funny paragraph has made me chuckle as it has happened on our own forum here by certain individuals. …"Talk about an inconvenient truth. This time last year, as Britain adjusted to post-EU trading rules, the airwaves and TV studios were full of gloating Remainers yelling ‘I told you so’ as exporters struggled to make sense of the new systems. "

Stupid Brexit!!!

for more balance heres some fishermen saying something else

“We have been massively short-changed and it does seem like boats down here have been hung out to dry,” says Trebilcock. “The increase in quota share for various species has been marginal. There’s also the issue of the 6-12 mile limit, which we were told would be ours, but that hasn’t happened.”

msgyorkie:
Every time there is an anti Brexit doom and gloom story in some vague media outlet it gets posted on here very quickly by the rabid remainers drooling at the bit, fingers bashing so quick so hard on the keyboard that they have to proof read and repair their spellings…YET a story FOR Brexit is conveniently ignored.
So for balance here is one… ROBERT HARDMAN: Brexit success story to make Remoaners choke on their sea bass | Daily Mail Online

A funny paragraph has made me chuckle as it has happened on our own forum here by certain individuals. …"Talk about an inconvenient truth. This time last year, as Britain adjusted to post-EU trading rules, the airwaves and TV studios were full of gloating Remainers yelling ‘I told you so’ as exporters struggled to make sense of the new systems. "

Stupid Brexit!!!

Brixham has done relatively well only because they are a modern port and are handling fish from ports right along the South who are now send their catch there as opposed to the continent. The fishing industry has suffered the disaster that they voted for.

From the “Fail” link
“So what is the secret to Brixham’s success? Talking to skippers and traders, it is, in part, down to looking ahead. This is the first market to devise a new online auction system which everyone calls ‘The Clock’.”
“So more and more boats from all over southern England are landing their catches at Brixham.”

So, because of a new system more boats are going through Brixham, and so it`s trade has increased.
Anything to do with Brexit?
Is it just a local increase with a loss elsewhere?
youtube.com/watch?v=o4rpBrwwrp8

Fail: “So all the various elements of the Brixham fishing industry have sharpened up their act. They have ensured that all their paperwork and processes are up to speed while their European customers loyally keep on ordering top grade fish.”
Good that their exports are continuing, in spite of the continuing extra expenses of new paperwork.

Nationally how is it going?
How are fish exports to the EU which the “Fail” talks of?
ons.gov.uk/economy/national … /jziy/mret

A sharp dip in Jan, followed by a sharp recovery. Then bouncing around, more-or-less, where it was?
Or maybe dropping off a bit? Lets all its hope not a drop, just a dip.

(Written just as Darkside was posting, similar comments)

Franglais:
From the “Fail” link
“So what is the secret to Brixham’s success? Talking to skippers and traders, it is, in part, down to looking ahead. This is the first market to devise a new online auction system which everyone calls ‘The Clock’.”
“So more and more boats from all over southern England are landing their catches at Brixham.”

So, because of a new system more boats are going through Brixham, and so it`s trade has increased.
Anything to do with Brexit?
Is it just a local increase with a loss elsewhere?
youtube.com/watch?v=o4rpBrwwrp8

Fail: “So all the various elements of the Brixham fishing industry have sharpened up their act. They have ensured that all their paperwork and processes are up to speed while their European customers loyally keep on ordering top grade fish.”
Good that their exports are continuing, in spite of the continuing extra expenses of new paperwork.

Nationally how is it going?
How are fish exports to the EU which the “Fail” talks of?
ons.gov.uk/economy/national … /jziy/mret

A sharp dip in Jan, followed by a sharp recovery. Then bouncing around, more-or-less, where it was?
Or maybe dropping off a bit? Lets all its hope not a drop, just a dip.

(Written just as Darkside was posting, similar comments)

A long way of saying they’ve adapted how they do business?

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