Winseer:
I would imaging that the thinking was that if ERG members passed Boris’ “Oven Ready Deal” just to get it past parliament and the hardliner Remainers, then the goalpost could always be moved towards a more-favourable-for-the-UK version later taking the gamble that the EU wouldn’t then upset the applecart by “grabbing that deal with both hands” - whilst it was hot…
Too late now though. We’re free to draw our own red lines.
So we are moving the goalposts
I can’t see for the life of me why there is such a hang up on fishing. The business is only worth a third of Harrods each year, as our lot sold the quota.
Darkside:
Winseer:
I would imaging that the thinking was that if ERG members passed Boris’ “Oven Ready Deal” just to get it past parliament and the hardliner Remainers, then the goalpost could always be moved towards a more-favourable-for-the-UK version later taking the gamble that the EU wouldn’t then upset the applecart by “grabbing that deal with both hands” - whilst it was hot…
Too late now though. We’re free to draw our own red lines.
So we are moving the goalposts
I can’t see for the life of me why there is such a hang up on fishing. The business is only worth a third of Harrods each year, as our lot sold the quota.
And what happens to the “fish” we catch? Most of the value is in shellfish, which we sell to the EU.
It gets trucked over. They don’t want it delayed by the red tape that is being introduced. If it takes too long to get there, it won’t be bought as high value fresh.
Pointless catching more if we don’t want to eat it, and can’t sell it.
The fish we like to eat, comes from further afield, we import most of the fish we eat.
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More insanity and sound bites devoid of meaning in the real world.
Darkside:
Winseer:
I would imaging that the thinking was that if ERG members passed Boris’ “Oven Ready Deal” just to get it past parliament and the hardliner Remainers, then the goalpost could always be moved towards a more-favourable-for-the-UK version later taking the gamble that the EU wouldn’t then upset the applecart by “grabbing that deal with both hands” - whilst it was hot…
Too late now though. We’re free to draw our own red lines.
So we are moving the goalposts
I can’t see for the life of me why there is such a hang up on fishing. The business is only worth a third of Harrods each year, as our lot sold the quota.
It is more about the UK being left facing the possibility of a depleted fishing schoal - if we allow EU fisherboats to completely drain it dry.
We’re done with “Quotas”. They are wide open to abuse, and of course they are.
Winseer:
Darkside:
Winseer:
I would imaging that the thinking was that if ERG members passed Boris’ “Oven Ready Deal” just to get it past parliament and the hardliner Remainers, then the goalpost could always be moved towards a more-favourable-for-the-UK version later taking the gamble that the EU wouldn’t then upset the applecart by “grabbing that deal with both hands” - whilst it was hot…
Too late now though. We’re free to draw our own red lines.
So we are moving the goalposts
I can’t see for the life of me why there is such a hang up on fishing. The business is only worth a third of Harrods each year, as our lot sold the quota.
It is more about the UK being left facing the possibility of a depleted fishing schoal - if we allow EU fisherboats to completely drain it dry.
We’re done with “Quotas”. They are wide open to abuse, and of course they are.
The EU have set quotas to prevent over fishing.
Many fishermen of many nations have moaned about this, but they exist.
How will Brexit, and imagining that “our” fish won’t swim into the EU patch, or vis-versa work?
Do you want aquatic passport controls under the Channel?
It needs international cooperation to make sense of any regulations.
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Nigel Farage has taken a break from shouting at the sea to complain about brexit again. He says that the withdrawal agreement that he supported and voted for is not what people wanted from brexit. This all begs the question, if remainers don’t want brexit, and brexiteers don’t want brexit, why are we doing it?
youtube.com/watch?v=tS8FZjedq9c
Winseer:
I’m not saying “I’m the guy that cannot be bought” - but rather “I’m the guy facing no bid for his talents”
No bids for your talents? Seriously? None at all?
jamdoms:
It’s lucky we left the EU and concluded the easiest trade deal in history because Turkey joined and they all emigrated,I had to join the ‘EU army’ and all the other members are rushing to leave.
Phew, that was a close shave, lucky we got out when we did.
anon84679660:
As well as building large lorry parks to deal with the brexit chaos of lorries being stuck in tailbacks around Dover, the Department for Transport are proposing that hauliers carry passports just to be able to drive into Kent as a result of brexit preparations.
Yeah, but they’ll be blue passports won’t they. Proper British passports, none of that burgundy foreign muck.
Got to admit though, considering they were designed in France and printed in Poland, they look pretty good. They more than compensate for any . . . em . . . ‘short term’ teething troubles that might arise from Brexit.
dexxy57:
jamdoms:
It’s lucky we left the EU and concluded the easiest trade deal in history because Turkey joined and they all emigrated,I had to join the ‘EU army’ and all the other members are rushing to leave.
Phew, that was a close shave, lucky we got out when we did.
Now we have taken back control of our borders, its all going....swimmingly....plain sailing..... All we need is for the French to work harder and all will be well. I cant understand why they don`t do more to protect us? Is it summat we said?
Franglais:
Now we have taken back control of our borders, its all going....swimmingly....plain sailing..... All we need is for the French to work harder and all will be well. I cant understand why they don`t do more to protect us? Is it summat we said?
On another forum, I read that the original Brexit slogan in 2016 was ‘Let’s Ask The French To Take Back Control Of Our Borders’
Obviously not snappy and catchy enough, so they shortened it.
It isn’t the EU we need to finalise a deal with - it is the Dutch and French. (Bugger the Belgians - they’ll be the last ones to leave the EU, rather than Germany…)
Winseer:
It isn’t the EU we need to finalise a deal with - it is the Dutch and French. (Bugger the Belgians - they’ll be the last ones to leave the EU, rather than Germany…)
Good idea.
Then we can have separate deals for Wales and Scotland.
Maybe London would like to negotiate a different deal to Truro? But if number 42 Railway Cuttings wants to disagree, what then?
We could become The United Kingdom Of Some Bits Of England Except For Tony Hancock`s House.
Winseer:
It isn’t the EU we need to finalise a deal with - it is the Dutch and French. (Bugger the Belgians - they’ll be the last ones to leave the EU, rather than Germany…)
Oh dear, you’re not quite up to speed on what the EU actually is, are you.
dexxy57:
Winseer:
It isn’t the EU we need to finalise a deal with - it is the Dutch and French. (Bugger the Belgians - they’ll be the last ones to leave the EU, rather than Germany…)
Oh dear, you’re not quite up to speed on what the EU actually is, are you.
Not possible! It was all in the Express, Mail and Sun, everyday for years. Everyone knows about the EU.
dexxy57:
Winseer:
It isn’t the EU we need to finalise a deal with - it is the Dutch and French. (Bugger the Belgians - they’ll be the last ones to leave the EU, rather than Germany…)
Oh dear, you’re not quite up to speed on what the EU actually is, are you.
The EU is a mortally wounded, corrupt money waster that it’s entire population not on the payroll - have had enough of.
There’s no reason to support the EU whatsoever UNLESS you KNOW you are worse off if you don’t.
If my boss offered me a £1000 per week pay rise if I told everyone how great the EU was - I’d probably take it, and cease posting for the rest of my life.
If my boss told me I’d be sacked if I didn’t support the EU? Too late. I’ve lost 6 jobs in the past 10 years, three of them because I’m an “Anti Liberal” now.
A time for polarized poltics is at hand, and so far - the Left in power over the majority of the contintental states - have done a shoddy job of even keeping their own support base behind them.
"If we could just raise your taxes… " NO!
“If we could just lower your pay…” NO!
"If we could just give more protections to criminals than you… " NO!
“If we could just pass over you for promotions, and sack you on a made-up whim breaching our own rules” NO!
…But by this point, no one is listening. Perhaps they’ll listen to the rising tide of resentment going about the continent, driving former centerist-supporting people like me to the fringes…
Some of us went Far Left, some of us went Far Right. Who wins out in the end? Dunno. I think we’ll need a war to get Right out on top, and a real pandemic - to lower the world’s population back to managable levels for governance. There isn’t a win for the Left - the moment everyone else’s money runs out…
Darkside:
dexxy57:
Winseer:
It isn’t the EU we need to finalise a deal with - it is the Dutch and French. (Bugger the Belgians - they’ll be the last ones to leave the EU, rather than Germany…)
Oh dear, you’re not quite up to speed on what the EU actually is, are you.
Not possible! It was all in the Express, Mail and Sun, everyday for years. Everyone knows about the EU.
Actually, the Express, Mail, and Sun do nothing but make anyone right of Karl Marx look bad at present, and for some time since now.
Our publications would be better right now polarizing and snapping at our elected government’s heels to get those things done that they promised.
Winseer:
If my boss offered me a £1000 per week pay rise if I told everyone how great the EU was - I’d probably take it, and cease posting for the rest of my life.
Is it worth starting a Crowdfunding page for this?
dexxy57:
Winseer:
If my boss offered me a £1000 per week pay rise if I told everyone how great the EU was - I’d probably take it, and cease posting for the rest of my life.
Is it worth starting a Crowdfunding page for this?
I would pledge money if dicky rowley was included as well
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dexxy57:
Winseer:
If my boss offered me a £1000 per week pay rise if I told everyone how great the EU was - I’d probably take it, and cease posting for the rest of my life.
Is it worth starting a Crowdfunding page for this?
The day Winseer admitted he was a Sun reader and offered to shut up for a Grand…
Darkside:
dexxy57:
Winseer:
If my boss offered me a £1000 per week pay rise if I told everyone how great the EU was - I’d probably take it, and cease posting for the rest of my life.
Is it worth starting a Crowdfunding page for this?
The day Winseer admitted he was a Sun reader and offered to shut up for a Grand…
A grand per week. Start saving those pennies folks… 
…If I don’t get the money by next Friday, I’ll post at least one mind-bending essay per week that’ll have you reaching for the vallium… 