Brexit/booze cruise

just a thought,what happens to booze cruisers when we exit,will they be able to go over and come back with cheap booze and wine

Yeah bring it on, this could be the return of duty free goods on the ferries. !!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bring back the days when you could supplement your wage packet with sales of contraband !!!

Booze cruises, down here in Kent, died a bit of a death back when the Euro currency went mainstream around 2000. Now that it’s possible to buy stuff in France using Euros, and the currency has strengthened against the Pound, - there is no longer an advantage to buying stuff on the continent, in hypermarkets etc. Even with cut price ferry tickets, there’s not much to be had from a “day out in France” these days either.

I used to go on two or three booze cruises per year, back when I still smoked as well. The last one I went on was in the summer of 2012, where I got some cheap Rum and soap powder - but most other stuff was by that point more expensive than in Britain. The Euro was a lot weaker back in 2012 as well.

IF the EU were ever to break up, a possible effect of the UK actually managing to leave…
The old local currencies would come back, and it would then be possible in the Mediterannean in particular, to get cheap booze and ■■■■ at least again.

France though? Perhaps if they don’t have a Globalist President by that point - thinks might “Look back with favour” there as well…

I can’t see any reason for there to be these “massive queues at borders” that some speak of… What did we do before 2000? - The queues were nothing much… The only thing that’s more noticable these days is the sheer number of foreign vehicles coming this way, rather than British vehicles going over there, seeing as one’s holiday pound doesn’t go as far as it used to…

So it’s not us that’ll be doing the Queueing then… :sunglasses:

truckman020:
just a thought,what happens to booze cruisers when we exit,will they be able to go over and come back with cheap booze and wine

What were the limits?
200 ■■■■, one litre of spirits, and a few litres of still wine or a lesser amount of fizz?
Will it be the same?
200 litre limit on deisel?

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pierrot 14:
Yeah bring it on, this could be the return of duty free goods on the ferries. !!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bring back the days when you could supplement your wage packet with sales of contraband !!!

I used to load wet animal bones in a bulk tipper in Vilvoorde, I could bring as much tobacco back as I wanted hidden in that in bin liners, HMRC would never go near it. Paid for my first house, that did :stuck_out_tongue:

Harry Monk:

pierrot 14:
Yeah bring it on, this could be the return of duty free goods on the ferries. !!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Bring back the days when you could supplement your wage packet with sales of contraband !!!

I used to load wet animal bones in a bulk tipper in Vilvoorde, I could bring as much tobacco back as I wanted hidden in that in bin liners, HMRC would never go near it. Paid for my first house, that did :stuck_out_tongue:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Love it Harry !!! The good old days eh ? :laughing: :laughing:
The things that we used to do back then, we were like naughty little school boys, nicking apples from next doors garden while they were asleep. :laughing:

so what happens when the alcohol tax starts in Scotland in May ■■
big drink warehouses in Carlisle and Berwick ■■
booze cruisers from Glasgow and Edinburgh ■■

Franglais:

truckman020:
just a thought,what happens to booze cruisers when we exit,will they be able to go over and come back with cheap booze and wine

What were the limits?
200 ■■■■, one litre of spirits, and a few litres of still wine or a lesser amount of fizz?
Will it be the same?
200 litre limit on deisel?

When I was on euro work I’m sure it was 3.200 cigarettes for personal use this was back in 2006,if you got stopped you were ok but if they stopped you week after with the same you would get a talking to but they always let me keep them…
Never brought much booze back though as the savings even then weren’t great,

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I used to load wet animal bones in a bulk tipper in Vilvoorde, I could bring as much tobacco back as I wanted hidden in that in bin liners, HMRC would never go near it. Paid for my first house, that did :stuck_out_tongue:

That reminds me of a similar tale way back in the early eighties when I was a youth in the Merchant Navy.
We were in dock in Hamburg when a guy I had been at college with who used to be with the same shipping company, came into the bar.
I had’nt seen him for about five years and he told me he’d seen us docked as he sailed past us up the Elbe.
Over a few tins, he was telling me about the shipping line he worked for, they were on a regular trip around the Baltic calling at Poland and Sweden.
He was buying vodka in (communist) Poland for literally pennies and selling it at a vastly inflated profit to the dockers in Sweden
He’d already paid for his house in Blackburn!

yorkshire terrier:

Franglais:

truckman020:
just a thought,what happens to booze cruisers when we exit,will they be able to go over and come back with cheap booze and wine

What were the limits?
200 ■■■■, one litre of spirits, and a few litres of still wine or a lesser amount of fizz?
Will it be the same?
200 litre limit on deisel?

When I was on euro work I’m sure it was 3.200 cigarettes for personal use this was back in 2006,if you got stopped you were ok but if they stopped you week after with the same you would get a talking to but they always let me keep them…
Never brought much booze back though as the savings even then weren’t great,

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Yeah. 2006 that’d be right. But that was after the European Community ? Previously to that it was 200 cigs. when it was still the Common Market? And I think that applies now to Duty Free trips from UK to non EU countries?

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Around the time the Euro currency came in, at the turn of the century, Customs officials used to tell anyone who asked regarding the “New Limits post-Euro” that there was effectively NO limits on stuff purchased in shops, but the limit of 200 cigs and 1 litre of spirits per adult traveller persisted, despite the duty free aspects now being in obvious wind-down mode, as they would soon be as expensive or more expensive than buying stuff in a French Hypermarket, using newly minted Euros, which cost around 65p at the time (not 88p like now!)

If there was any doubt when pulled at the green channel - you could simply split open each outer of cigs, thus proving that you were not “buying them to be sold on” and they were effectively for one’s own personal use.

I used to resist calls to open each individual packet though, as this would make that 20 pack dry out too much, before I had a chance to smoke my bensons.
The packs came to have “Part of Multipack - Not for Re-sale” on them, to get around those publicans who’d buy stacks of 200 blocks of cigs, and attempt to sell them from behind the bar as packs of 20, when we all know Pub vending machines were infamous for having amounts like 16 or 17 cigs in a pack at that time.

The point I make though is that the “limits” were no longer really enforced - once the Euro currency came in, and shengen zone later kicked in fully so that only actuall illegal goods like Firearms, Drugs, and Live Animals were being sought in one’s luggage - not “Naughty amounts of ■■■■ and booze”… any longer :neutral_face:

Winseer:
Around the time the Euro currency came in, at the turn of the century, Customs officials used to tell anyone who asked regarding the “New Limits post-Euro” that there was effectively NO limits on stuff purchased in public shops, but the limit of 200 cigs and 1 litre of spirits per adult traveller persisted for duty free purchases, despite the duty free aspects now being in obvious wind-down mode, as they would soon be as expensive or more expensive than buying stuff in a French Hypermarket, using newly minted Euros, which cost around 65p at the time (not 88p like now!)

If there was any doubt when pulled at the green channel - you could simply split open each outer of cigs, thus proving that you were not “buying them to be sold on” and they were effectively for one’s own personal use.

I used to resist calls to open each individual packet though, as this would make that 20 pack dry out too much, before I had a chance to smoke my bensons.
The packs came to have “Part of Multipack - Not for Re-sale” on them, to get around those publicans who’d buy stacks of 200 blocks of cigs, and attempt to sell them from behind the bar as packs of 20, when we all know Pub vending machines were infamous for having amounts like 16 or 17 cigs in a pack at that time.

The point I make though is that the “limits” were no longer really enforced - once the Euro currency came in, and shengen zone later kicked in fully so that only actuall illegal goods like Firearms, Drugs, and Live Animals were being sought in one’s luggage - not “Naughty amounts of ■■■■ and booze”… any longer :neutral_face:

Duty Free was and is 200 cigs 1litre spirit etc. That is still valid between the UK and non EU countries. The Booze Cruises are UK citizens taking advantage of the EU rules allowing all goods for private use to cross borders freely. Tobacco and alcohols because of having Duty on them are still not in free circulation even within the EU or indeed even within the UK, hence bonded warehousing.
Anyway on Booze Cruises you buy goods (booze) that is Duty Paid in another EU country and for your own use, you bring it home.
When we leave the EU we, or the UK Gov, have the freedom to limit what any individual can import. The EU can no longer insist on free passage of personal goods.
So I think the UK Gov will allow you to buy 200 cigs Duty Free, but not allow import of cigs etc Duty Paid in a foreign country.
Why allow people to pay maybe 2euros duty to the Belgian Gov and miss out on 4quid themselves?
Booze Cruises? Can’t see them continuing.

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bigdave789:

I used to load wet animal bones in a bulk tipper in Vilvoorde, I could bring as much tobacco back as I wanted hidden in that in bin liners, HMRC would never go near it. Paid for my first house, that did :stuck_out_tongue:

That reminds me of a similar tale way back in the early eighties when I was a youth in the Merchant Navy.
We were in dock in Hamburg when a guy I had been at college with who used to be with the same shipping company, came into the bar.
I had’nt seen him for about five years and he told me he’d seen us docked as he sailed past us up the Elbe.
Over a few tins, he was telling me about the shipping line he worked for, they were on a regular trip around the Baltic calling at Poland and Sweden.
He was buying vodka in (communist) Poland for literally pennies and selling it at a vastly inflated profit to the dockers in Sweden
He’d already paid for his house in Blackburn!

i’ll say to your mate what I was going to say to harry monk,nice one,if you can get away with it, why the hell not.

Franglais:
Duty Free was and is 200 cigs 1litre spirit etc. That is still valid between the UK and non EU countries. The Booze Cruises are UK citizens taking advantage of the EU rules allowing all goods for private use to cross borders freely. Tobacco and alcohols because of having Duty on them are still not in free circulation even within the EU or indeed even within the UK, hence bonded warehousing.
Anyway on Booze Cruises you buy goods (booze) that is Duty Paid in another EU country and for your own use, you bring it home.
When we leave the EU we, or the UK Gov, have the freedom to limit what any individual can import. The EU can no longer insist on free passage of personal goods.
So I think the UK Gov will allow you to buy 200 cigs Duty Free, but not allow import of cigs etc Duty Paid in a foreign country.
Why allow people to pay maybe 2euros duty to the Belgian Gov and miss out on 4quid themselves?
Booze Cruises? Can’t see them continuing.

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Think the general jist of what is being said is true.However,to the letter of the law,we,as “transport crews”,were strictly speaking, limited to 40 cigarettes and half litre of spirits and 1 litre of wine,the same as airline crews and ships crews.Never heard tell of anyone being stopped for it,but I recall that being our allowance,strictly speaking.

Whatever the limits will come to, the booze runs will continue " IF" and it is a big IF the monetary benefits are worthwhile. I know that you can get good deals on the ferry crossings, but if the price difference of goods between France/Belgium and England are minimal there will be no point as you will not be able to cover the cost of the crossing. For us in the haulage industry a very different matter as we don’t pay the ferry fare :wink: . I run across with a few cartons or packs of tobacco for people I know in the UK , but it is no way as good as it was, it’s certainly not to make me a millionaire, more like looking after friends.

Apart from East European countries the cheapest booze that I have found is in the Hypermarkets inland in Spain. A mate of mine that has a B+B in France also has an apartment in Spain, brings a van full of wine and local spirits back from Spain after his winter break ( Nov-March) . His guests love the free wine in the evenings.
Living where I do back in the 90s many of us would do the booze runs at party or christmas time . Some with cars that had large fuel tanks would do monthly trips over and do the houshold shop and fuel the car up and a ■■■■ and booze buy for friends and neighbours, we could get super cheap ferry tickets .
We also used to do the Saturday night Shuffle for a £1 , this was a non landing trip over to Calais and back with a live band or disco , duty free bar and you could buy cases of booze to collect as you disembarked .

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