They had an ad in the Evening Herald this week for a few days looking for drivers here in Ireland, might give them a ring monday just to see what their reply is. IF anyone is intersted contact Alan on 086 6060650.
I am probably not the one to talk, seeing as i am from South Africa and working in Ireland, making me one of the many taking your jobs…I was conned and promised lots of things that has not happened. I have also since seen that 100 euros is not a lot of money, when you spend more than a week at a time spending
your money in the UK. unlike they guys from the continent, that can change jobs as they like and even drive home if they really want, it cost me a lot of money to get here and home is far. what i will say is…think TWICE before working for breen.
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Swerwer:
I am probably not the one to talk, seeing as i am from South Africa and working in Ireland, making me one of the many taking your jobs…I was conned and promised lots of things that has not happened. I have also since seen that 100 euros is not a lot of money, when you spend more than a week at a time spending
your money in the UK. unlike they guys from the continent, that can change jobs as they like and even drive home if they really want, it cost me a lot of money to get here and home is far. what i will say is…think TWICE before working for breen.
Welcome to TruckNet UK Swerver.
I have no knowledge of employment law in the Republic of Ireland, especially when it involves Immigration and presumably a Green Card or something along those lines.
It sounds like the company you work for are in breach of their side of the contract. It may be possible for you to find work with another company, without you breaching Immigration rules.
As you spend some time in the UK, it may be worth your time to get in contact with one of the unions. URTU have a mobile office which stays at the larger Truckstops and motorway services for several days at a time. They might be able to put you on the right track.
Possibly our members from Eire may be able to help you in some way too.
breen like a lot of other irish companies.
110 euro a day.#some wont pay for 7 days as its illegal to work this.
they will still want you at the boat.
tramp haulage would be a more appropriate name for most irish companies now.
i am irish by the way.
years ago they paid better then english companies.
we ran all the hours,the english parked up when their time was done.
now the tramp hauliers have it both ways.
drivers who will drive night and day,drive for 110 euro a day.
when stopped by vosa,they cant speak english.
stupid as foxes these eastern europeans.
meanwhile our jobs are gone.
try alljobs.ie.be warned this is the bottom of the pile as jobs go
It’s the way of the world!
Eastern Euro drivers coming here is no different to us going to Australia, America, Europe etc. People do move to better themselves. Companies exist for no reason other than to make money. By reducing their costs in whatever way possible any company is acting entirely responsibly, though ethically could be questioned.
The new EU states were brought in purely because the EU was becoming saturated as a marketplace, so needed expanding. That made moving from country to country easier so the numbers have increased.
Importing labour is no different to exporting a factory to China and the Far East. How many jobs have been lost as companies move production to Eastern Europe and China or call centres to India? It’s really no different whether jobs are lost through work leaving the country or workers coming in.
You can’t export a transport company to Eastern Europe or China and still operate in the UK or Holland or France or whereever, so the labour is imported instead of plant exported.
It’s not a problem particular to the UK or Ireland or any other Western country with a high standard of living, or to any particular industry. It is across the board and will continue to get worse until the new states have parity in standard of living with the established EU countries. When that happens, there will be thousands of Africans and South Americans to tap into, so the problem ain’t about to go away, however much anybody complains.
Pop, If me or you went to another country wouldnt we expect to earn the same as the locals? I know i would.
I also know that if id been born in an eastern bloc country id be doing exactly the same as jerzy or darek and trying to earn a better lifestyle.
I suppose the fairy tale answer would be for all drivers in europe to have a minimum wage rate?
JB:
Pop, If me or you went to another country wouldnt we expect to earn the same as the locals? I know i would.
I also know that if id been born in an eastern bloc country id be doing exactly the same as jerzy or darek and trying to earn a better lifestyle.
I suppose the fairy tale answer would be for all drivers in europe to have a minimum wage rate?
I agree. I firmly believe we have too many immigrants in this country. BUT, they have had the guts to leave their homeland for a strange country, are prepared to live apart from families for months at a time to try to improve their lot in life. How many people complaining about them are prepared to do the same?
Minimum wage? On the face of it, yes. But that would also mean standard tax rates etc across the EU. Can’t see that happening in my lifetime.
Also, where’s the incentive? We see the numbers in our industry because that’s what we see every day. The number of immigrant drivers is small compared to the rest of industry/agriculture/service industries. So where does the minimum wage across the EU stop? Cheap labour suits everybody just fine except the worker. Governments like it because it keeps inflation low. Companies like it because it keeps profits high, or at least the company afloat. There’s absolutely no incentive for parity. Especially with China expanding. How often do you see ‘made in China’ on goods that used to be produced here or in the EU? As I said, whether cheap labour is imported to the work, or the work exported to cheap labour is irrelevant - the situation ain’t going to improve.
you can’t blame the eastern european drivers for this, theyre seeing an opportunity here to make a better life for them and their families,and more power to them for doing it.
its just a pity that its completely stuffed up the prospects for irish truckers, my father used to work for cafferys many years ago and he used to tell me theyd tell him to pull out the card and keep going, my dad being a veteran trucker would tell them obviously to forget about that idea and he was constantly reminded that there were foreign drivers willing to do it…
i was lucky when i was working in ireland, (im irish but now emigrated to oz), last year i was home for a while and i was doing some work for TNT through a subbie, 5 days a week, local work, pulling home 550 eur, and that particular subbie refused to hire foreign drivers.
sure, he could have taken on a load of polish lads and kept the wages down, but is it worth it for the amount of damage to the vehicles, and not to mention total lack of customer relations that may eventually lead to the loss of his contract?
the likes of nolans and breens are a disgrace to the irish economy and to the irish working class and theyre only serving to make themselves richer in the short term, but they have no forward vision, one day the polish / latvian / lithuanian economies will be right up to the point where theyall bugger off back home and leave nolans etc scrounging for drivers and having to pay top dollar like the used to just to get good, loyal drivers
beattun:
you can’t blame the eastern european drivers for this, theyre seeing an opportunity here to make a better life for them and their families,and more power to them for doing it.its just a pity that its completely stuffed up the prospects for irish truckers, my father used to work for cafferys many years ago and he used to tell me theyd tell him to pull out the card and keep going, my dad being a veteran trucker would tell them obviously to forget about that idea and he was constantly reminded that there were foreign drivers willing to do it…
i was lucky when i was working in ireland, (im irish but now emigrated to oz), last year i was home for a while and i was doing some work for TNT through a subbie, 5 days a week, local work, pulling home 550 eur, and that particular subbie refused to hire foreign drivers.
sure, he could have taken on a load of polish lads and kept the wages down, but is it worth it for the amount of damage to the vehicles, and not to mention total lack of customer relations that may eventually lead to the loss of his contract?
the likes of nolans and breens are a disgrace to the irish economy and to the irish working class and theyre only serving to make themselves richer in the short term, but they have no forward vision, one day the polish / latvian / lithuanian economies will be right up to the point where theyall bugger off back home and leave nolans etc scrounging for drivers and having to pay top dollar like the used to just to get good, loyal drivers
NOLANS NEVER PAID TOP DOLLAR AND NEVER WILL
does anybody know if the story about the nolan driver missing the boat is true or just a myth■■?
nolans communicate with drivers by text message…when the driver gets the text he looks for the first english speaker 
i was loading in a kerry foods plant lately when a nolan actros pulled up beside me…the driver made coffee and had a bite…
while i was closing my curtains he approached me and showed me his text…he was in the wrong plant 
lucky for him i was heading to the other plant and he followed me…i took him on the scenic route…
the driver that sent him to the wrong plant is probably still laughing…
NOLANS NEVER PAID TOP DOLLAR AND NEVER WILL
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i hear that nolan is paying the money now.looking for engliah speaking
irish or english drivers.
he will drive the guts[zb] out of you night and day.
i am not sure how true this is,and i wonder how he goes about fines.i am doing a bit of europe now after an absence of 7 years.it has changed.big fines now at long last for doing 20 hour days.
3 and 4 thousand euro i am told.
if this is the case,thats end of the one hits.
i never did them anyway.
brian.
me and you father would be too busy checking out the local brews,the load will wait another day.
Irish Hauliers are taking advantage of Eastern Drivers
They dont want to know about drivers hours etc, until there is an accident.
None of them are worth working for unless u want to be taken for a ride, to put it nicely.
Consider yourself worth more and draw the dole , youll be poorer but have less greif and less time locked up.
quote=“beattun”]you can’t blame the eastern european drivers for this, theyre seeing an opportunity here to make a better life for them and their families,and more power to them for doing it.
its just a pity that its completely stuffed up the prospects for irish truckers, my father used to work for cafferys many years ago and he used to tell me theyd tell him to pull out the card and keep going, my dad being a veteran trucker would tell them obviously to forget about that idea and he was constantly reminded that there were foreign drivers willing to do it…
i was lucky when i was working in ireland, (im irish but now emigrated to oz), last year i was home for a while and i was doing some work for TNT through a subbie, 5 days a week, local work, pulling home 550 eur, and that particular subbie refused to hire foreign drivers.
sure, he could have taken on a load of polish lads and kept the wages down, but is it worth it for the amount of damage to the vehicles, and not to mention total lack of customer relations that may eventually lead to the loss of his contract?
the likes of nolans and breens are a disgrace to the irish economy and to the irish working class and theyre only serving to make themselves richer in the short term, but they have no forward vision, one day the polish / latvian / lithuanian economies will be right up to the point where theyall bugger off back home and leave nolans etc scrounging for drivers and having to pay top dollar like the used to just to get good, loyal drivers
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jr-1:
Irish Hauliers are taking advantage of Eastern Drivers
They dont want to know about drivers hours etc, until there is an accident.
None of them are worth working for unless u want to be taken for a ride, to put it nicely.
Consider yourself worth more and draw the dole , youll be poorer but have less greif and less time locked up.
there are some very good irish firms to work for, you just never hear about them, and jobs rarely come up with them except through word of mouth… i think most people will agree that some companies are indeed exploiting the eastern european drivers however
Look , when i started driving in 1998 one of the first things i learned was that Nolans were widely known as the worst employer for a driver in Ireland. Nearly 10 years later nothin has changed. One of my best friends drove for them before they got really big and has nothing but hatred for Jimmy Nolan and the rest of his sons who run the office and garages in IRL and Wales.There are countless horror stories about them, they are never out of the labour court. In the nineties there drivers went on strike cos they were only getting 2 punt an hour and locol sympathisers were sued by Nolans for driving slowly in front of there welsh drivers cos anyone who went on strike got sacked. One of they’re drivers was found dead beside the truck in east Cork once and they wouldnt pay money owed to him in wages or contribute to the cost of sending his remains home. They’re barred out of toughers in Kildare. The poles witha bit of cop on know to avoid them now.A driver even has to sign to the effect that if he jacks in without notice he forfits his pay. I’ll bet my left nut that you’ll never see an Irish Nolan driver in England cos theyres only 4 of em left and thats sayin something seein as they have over 300 units alone.If anyone doubts any of the above i suggest you google them on (google.ie) I know next to nothing about J.C. Breen or Breentrans as they’re known other than when they’re best trucks were old Merc 1644’s they were a good company to drive for. I doubt this is still the case.