Breaks

Ben9:
Now I stand to be corrected here but-
After they changed the law regarding breaks a few months or so back that if you split your break 15mins and then 30mins your last break has to be the 30 min one.
Have I interpreted it wrong■■?

No you haven’t. And those few months total about 31, the change was April 2007, doesn’t time fly when your having fun. :wink:

Ben9:
The reason I ask is that in the latest HGV Theory test book is says on more than one occasion that you can take them in any order.

it’s wrong if it says that.

Semtex:
The best advice I can give if you are unsure is to contact Davey Driver and invest in one of his timers…that’ll keep you right

It’ll keep you mostly right. it won’t keep you right on reduced daily rest periods, it still works to the pre April 2007 rules for them.

Ben9:
The reason I ask is that in the latest HGV Theory test book is says on more than one occasion that you can take them in any order.

Can you post the ISBN number of that book please

Ben9:
Now I stand to be corrected here but-
After they changed the law regarding breaks a few months or so back that if you split your break 15mins and then 30mins your last break has to be the 30 min one.
Have I interpreted it wrong■■?

The reason I ask is that in the latest HGV Theory test book is says on more than one occasion that you can take them in any order.

No you still have to have a 30 minute break as your last one…even if you’ve had 2 x 25 minute breaks your driving time dont reset til you’ve had the 30 :wink: …no changes since 2006 i think so the book must be wrong ■■

ROG:

Ben9:
The reason I ask is that in the latest HGV Theory test book is says on more than one occasion that you can take them in any order.

Can you post the ISBN number of that book please

Will do it will be Monday though left it in truck.

Ben9:

ROG:

Ben9:
The reason I ask is that in the latest HGV Theory test book is says on more than one occasion that you can take them in any order.

Can you post the ISBN number of that book please

Will do it will be Monday though left it in truck.

Thank you

Coffeeholic:

Ben9:
Now I stand to be corrected here but-
After they changed the law regarding breaks a few months or so back that if you split your break 15mins and then 30mins your last break has to be the 30 min one.
Have I interpreted it wrong■■?

No you haven’t. And those few months total about 31, the change was April 2007, doesn’t time fly when your having fun. :wink:

Ben9:
The reason I ask is that in the latest HGV Theory test book is says on more than one occasion that you can take them in any order.

it’s wrong if it says that.

That is what I thought I just wanted to be 100% correct in my facts. I will phone up the DSA to try and get my £15.00 back won’t hold my breath though.

bikemonkey:
i’ll give you an example…this was yesterdays driving and breaks for me

started at 06:55 at Thamesport and ran down to load in Portsmouth…stuck it on break at 08:42 - 09-49 whilst i was waiting to be loaded 2hrs 32 minutes driving which reset my driving time…then went onto weighbridge and got myself in position to be loaded on break from 10:27 - 11:21 on 15 minutes driving which then reset again
TOTAL 2hrs 32 + 15 =2hrs 47 minutes
then weighed off went back to Southampton tipped and turned on the Docks and down to Hythe to load…was on break from 14-29 - 14:46 at 1hr 52 minutes driving then from 14-51 - 15-11 on 1hr 55 minutes driving(as i’d moved for 3 minutes)…total of 37 minutes of break but not enough to reset it as your 2nd break needs to be at least a 30 minute if you SPLIT your break in 2/3 parts…now i didn’t want to reset my break at that point by having a 30 minute break as i was heading for Felixstowe and wouldn’t of made it if i’d of had it in Hythe…so i pulled out of there around 15:20 and drove up to Fleet an hour or so away and got there on 3hrs 20 minutes drive and had a break from 16:45 - 17:17 which reset my driving hrs leaving me with 3hrs 53 on a 10hr drive
TOTAL DRIVING 2hrs 32 + 15 + 3hrs 19 = 6hrs 6 minutes

i then drove to felixstowe arriving at 20:40 on 3 hrs 19 minutes driving
TOTAL for the day 9hrs 26 minutes 14 hrs 55 minutes duty :wink: (2hrs 32 + 15 + 3hrs 20 + 3hrs 19 = 9hrs 26)

hope this makes some sense :wink:

cheers Bike thats the sort of thing i was looking for cheers

bikemonkey:
(3hrs 20 + 3hrs 19 = 9hrs 26)

If I’m reading your post correctly, you had one 15min break between your last 6hrs 39mins driving stint.

drive 2hrs 47 minutes
break 10:27 - 11:21 BREAK OF 54 MINS SO DRIVING TIME RESET
3hrs 20 minutes drive
break 16:45 - 17:17 BREAK OF 32 MINS SO DRIVING TIME NOT RESET
3 hrs 19 minutes driving

did I miss a break somewhere :question:

lets not forget to add the wtd breaks in there as well,0-6 hours 15 mins,6-9 hours 30 mins!

If your talking WTD.
You mean 0-6 hours, 30 mins then 6-9 hrs, 15 mins.
or you could
just before 6 hours have 45 mins, then go for another 6 hours.

pugwash:
If your talking WTD.
You mean 0-6 hours, 30 mins

not correct see here - RTD(WTD) BREAKS explained by a GURU

get up in the morning, put the wire on, go and get tipped, run empty for a couple of hours, get reloaded, take the wire off, head for the docks, drop trailer, pick up another trailer, put the wire on again, run for an hour on rest, take the wire off.
you can get 12 or 13 hours driving done over a 20 hour day like that.

ROG:

drive 2hrs 47 minutes
break 10:27 - 11:21 BREAK OF 54 MINS SO DRIVING TIME RESET
3hrs 20 minutes drive
break 16:45 - 17:17 BREAK OF 32 MINS SO DRIVING TIME NOT RESET
3 hrs 19 minutes driving

did I miss a break somewhere :question:

was on break from 14-29 - 14:46 at 1hr 52 minutes driving then from 14-51 - 15-11 on 1hr 55 minutes driving(as i’d moved for 3 minutes)…total of 37 minutes of break but not enough to reset it as your 2nd break needs to be at least a 30 minute if you SPLIT your break in 2/3 parts…now i didn’t want to reset my break at that point by having a 30 minute break as i was heading for Felixstowe and wouldn’t of made it if i’d of had it in Hythe…so i pulled out of there around 15:20 and drove up to Fleet an hour or so away and got there on 3hrs 20 minutes drive and had a break from 16:45 - 17:17 which reset my driving hrs leaving me with 3hrs 53 on a 10hr drive

yeah you missed 2 :wink:

bikemonkey:
yeah you missed 2

apologies :blush: