After 15 hours work,the truck breaks down,what do you do?Book off,pull the tachocard out then ring for assistance,or wait until you have had your legal daily rest and get it all sorted in the morning when the call out will be on the day rate and not the night rate.?
If you call them out,at night,when you have booked off,the chances are that the fitter will want to road test it,after he has repaired it,or move the truck to check it out,and he may not have a digi card to move it,so i would show a movement when i should have been on a daily rest,if he insists on me driving the truck.
If you fix it in the morning,they may be too busy to get to you,and the boss is moaning why you are so late in coming back.
If he road tested it with no digi card,how would you explain the movement abroad with fines in the thousands if get stopped in Europe,they would not bother ringing the mechanic to verify that,just fine you first.
How would you know its broken down 15 hours finish work not
15 and a bit.
In the morning
I broke down at 21.58,my 15 hours was up at 22.00,it was fate,and luck that i was pulling in to an empty warehouse,the ones with the “To let” signs,so you know you are not parking in a busy yard when they come to work,and can be left in peace.
A silly question really! Only because you don’t state if in an unsafe location or at a customers premises etc
If in a location that I can have my daily rest then,I call it in and arrange fitter for the next day! If goes without saying in an unsafe place then fitter immediately if I couldn’t sort the problem out myself! 
toby1234abc:
After 15 hours work,the truck breaks down,what do you do?Book off,pull the tachocard out then ring for assistance,or wait until you have had your legal daily rest and get it all sorted in the morning when the call out will be on the day rate and not the night rate.?
If you call them out,at night,when you have booked off,the chances are that the fitter will want to road test it,after he has repaired it,or move the truck to check it out,and he may not have a digi card to move it,so i would show a movement when i should have been on a daily rest,if he insists on me driving the truck.
If you fix it in the morning,they may be too busy to get to you,and the boss is moaning why you are so late in coming back.
If he road tested it with no digi card,how would you explain the movement abroad with fines in the thousands if get stopped in Europe,they would not bother ringing the mechanic to verify that,just fine you first.
when my dads motor comes in to our place for inspection etc i always do him a printoff, get it signed and dated and stamped by the office bod covers him when abroad apparentl 
If you took the card out how would they know its you driving. Its just UK now no town needed so as far as they’re concerned you could have made it back to the yard, gone home and not know anything about it.
I’d ring my boss and let him decide when to send the fitter.
dessy:
A silly question really! Only because you don’t state if in an unsafe location or at a customers premises etc
If in a location that I can have my daily rest then,I call it in and arrange fitter for the next day! If goes without saying in an unsafe place then fitter immediately if I couldn’t sort the problem out myself!
Totally agree.
I once broke down on the hill in Aberystwyth, 45 minutes short of 15 hours, I was heading for Aberaeron to park up on the seafront.
Rang boss to report it and he arranged local repair through Volvo Action Service.
2 hours later fitter turned up another hour to repair.
By this time I was 2 hours 15 minutes over a 15 spread.
Just turned around drove back to lorry park in Aberystwyth, wrote on the card , and had 9 off.
Its exactly the same for digicards just write on a printout. Rules are exactly the same just a different way of recording the details.
The fitter must have access to/own a workshop card surely, if not just do a printout and write on the back signed by the relevant persons etc IF your in an unsafe/emergency situation. If your safely parked then there would be no need to move it as such.
Start 6pm, at 08:40 the next morning, you’re phoning the office for a pick-up, as you’ve broken down (parked in a layby) and want someone to come out, and take you home.
If the firm don’t bother, then you’ll not be working the next night you were due to be in, in which case you’ve got a freebie day off probably worth more to you than 8 hours overtime.
You Cannot “drive yourself back” legally unless you’ve had a 9 hour break minimum from 09:00 hours, by which point you’ve pulled your card already.
This has only happened to me once, and I got the following night off as a day off in lieu, but only 90 minutes overtime (13.5 hour duty, 15 hours at tacho-pull) awarded.
I did break down about 100 miles away from home mind you! 
I was stuck with the vehicle from 09:00 to 18:15 by the time it was repaired, and I drove the remaining 2 hours back on effectively “the next day’s duty time”.
As soon as I got back, I chucked my keys in, and was told “seeya on monday”. (I broke down thursday-friday morning shift @ the 08:40)
I’m not quite sure if I got a good deal here really… 
I might have been better off had a pool car come out to take me home by lunchtime at the latest!
10-08:
If you took the card out how would they know its you driving. Its just UK now no town needed so as far as they’re concerned you could have made it back to the yard, gone home and not know anything about it.
I’d ring my boss and let him decide when to send the fitter.
The firm are obliged to record who is driving what fleet vehicle at what “booked out” times.
It isn’t rocket science to connect a particular driver with “vehcile driven umpteen miles with no card in”
Who was it signed out to? - Oh, Joe Blogges. Oh well, he’s in an flooded cesspit of trouble then, because VOSA have just downloaded the vehicle data, and want to know who was driving it during the times stipulated - same as if an accident & runaway had occured! 
Imagine how much trouble the firm would be in, if when any officials turn up, they say. “Hey bud, we just throw a random set of keys at drivers in whatever order they come in the door on-shift at…”
TM:
“Mr Hoo Har and Miss De Meanor could have been driving the vehicle in question for all WE know…”
Vosa Official:
“Let me introduce you to my colleague Constable Plod. Notice he already has his telescopic baton extended, clearly anticipating resistance from this shower of transport jokers here present.”
As others have said, unsafe place get it sorted or at least to a safe place, if safe arrange for the morning. Do a printout as soon as possible and at the end of your shift, recording details & signing the back. I had to do this recently (16 hour shift) and I didn’t even get an infringement. IMO, just make sure you have at least 9 or 11 off afterwards, although not strictly required as you’ve already not had enough rest in the 24 hour period, it would possibly be a ‘spirit of the rules’ defence if things got that far (which they shouldn’t). As for going to Euroland, judging by some of the stories I’ve heard, I think you might just avoid being fined if you have laminated, sworn statements from your boss, the fitter, the fitters boss and yourself, translated into every language of every country your travelling through .
Winseer:
10-08:
If you took the card out how would they know its you driving. Its just UK now no town needed so as far as they’re concerned you could have made it back to the yard, gone home and not know anything about it.
I’d ring my boss and let him decide when to send the fitter.The firm are obliged to record who is driving what fleet vehicle at what “booked out” times.
It isn’t rocket science to connect a particular driver with “vehcile driven umpteen miles with no card in”
Who was it signed out to? - Oh, Joe Blogges. Oh well, he’s in an flooded cesspit of trouble then, because VOSA have just downloaded the vehicle data, and want to know who was driving it during the times stipulated - same as if an accident & runaway had occured!0
Imagine how much trouble the firm would be in, if when any officials turn up, they say. “Hey bud, we just throw a random set of keys at drivers in whatever order they come in the door on-shift at…”
TM:
“Mr Hoo Har and Miss De Meanor could have been driving the vehicle in question for all WE know…”Vosa Official:
“Let me introduce you to my colleague Constable Plod. Notice he already has his telescopic baton extended, clearly anticipating resistance from this shower of transport jokers here present.”
What I’m saying is, if the driver is not driving it how can he be fined? Constable plod’ will need some kind of substantial evidence that the guy whose tacho was out was driving before he sets about him with his telescopic baton. Personally I’d either test drive it in the morning or bugger off to a restaurant for a few hours and let the fitter test drive it it.
I don’t have to prove where I am every single minute of my rest time and I wouldn’t willingly offer up information to vosa or police that would land me in ■■■■.
If a fitter is test driving after a re-fit, or anyone else happens to be driving the vehicle back to base…
Dunno why they’d do that without a card mind you!
I don’t think able plod is going to etch your fore…head if a reasonable explanation is to be had.
TM having lost his licence already, and deciding to return truck to depot without putting his non-existant card in is alas NOT going to make plod hang up his truncheon, unlesss it’s upon said TM’s nut sack.
Yeah any TM who wanted you to muck about getting your truck fixed on your rest period then expects you to do all of the next days work probably deserves to have his nuts set upon
Scania and Volvo fitters at our depots never put a card in.
Why would a workshop fitter have a digital card, they are fitters, not drivers. If you mean they should use a workshop card, that is only used for calibrating the tachograph. It began as an urban myth that fitters had to use a card to roadtest or collect vehicles. They only need the card to roadtest vehicles after a tachograph repair or calibration.
To be fair I start to breakdown every time I see the posters name