Which ever way you look at it it was obvious that the lorry driver would of had to change speed/direction. Or just plough straight on and expect others to move, as is the case with mentioned selfish lorry driver.
If I’m joining a motorway during a busy period from a slip road and there are 3 or 4 cars behind me and infront of me, and a big line of trucks in the left lane of the motorway am I expected to just carry on along the hard shoulder? Stop on the slip road? If everyone had a bit of common courtesy/sense then things like this wouldn’t happen. Just saying.
In the video where the LGV driver bullys the car joining the motorway, it’s not exactly busy and it wouldn’t of hurt him to slow down a couple of mph or move to lane 2.
I understand about giving way to the right and the car driver should of sped up.
You don’t stop on the slip road when traffic is moving on the motorway.
Tarrman:
Which ever way you look at it it was obvious that the lorry driver would of had to change speed/direction. Or just plough straight on and expect others to move, as is the case with mentioned selfish lorry driver.
If I’m joining a motorway during a busy period from a slip road and there are 3 or 4 cars behind me and infront of me, and a big line of trucks in the left lane of the motorway am I expected to just carry on along the hard shoulder? Stop on the slip road? If everyone had a bit of common courtesy/sense then things like this wouldn’t happen. Just saying.
In the video where the LGV driver bullys the car joining the motorway, it’s not exactly busy and it wouldn’t of hurt him to slow down a couple of mph or move to lane 2.
I understand about giving way to the right and the car driver should of sped up.
You don’t stop on the slip road when traffic is moving on the motorway.
You don’t just barge on to a motorway if doing so would cause oncoming traffic to slow or swerve to avoid hitting you, if by the time you reach the end of the slip road and there isn’t a safe gap in traffic then you will have to stop ffs, that is the highway code
Driving on the motorway
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Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking
Not only that but it would of been significantly easier /faster if the ■■■ in that car on the video has give the shed some gas ffs, then no need to end up in a situation like that close to being wiped out by a 44t truck , In other European countries most of their car drivers don’t hang about joining motorways, and if they see that barging in front of a truck would be dangerous they give way stopping if necessary When I’m on the motorways in my car i don’t hang about joining motorways, and i will stop to give way if need be, After driving a truck i have respect for trucks when I’m not in one, unlike most ,maybe down to a lack of education given about trucks and buses prior to driving test
Fair enough I hold up my hands in error of my ways. It’s safe to say just knowing the theory side of things doesn’t necessarily mean you know the rules of the road. Been a few times on here where I’ve argued a point only to be wrong.
Although on a parting note it’s safe to say that LGV drivers should adjust their actions to accommodate those drivers who are not as experienced/knowledgeable as they are of the road, if this means moving over to lane 2 or slowing down a couple if mph to allow for other drivers to merge onto the motorway because they might not know they are allowed to stop on a slip road or might not have the brains to match the speed of vehicles already on the motorway, then surely they should do so?
Oh, I didn’t see the rest of his vids. Bit of an I’m the daddy is he? Oh we’ll I’ll take some points off him for that then. As experienced drivers, we all know we need to give a bit of leeway to people who are 't very good at driving. Not worth getting too upset about foolishness.
WildGoose:
That video was amusing, but look at the others.
He is equally as disgusting as the people he is berating in the videos.
That guy is the worst type of lorry driver. Angry, aggressive, expects everyone else to fit around him.
Opening himself up to accidents caused by the stupidity of others, when it would be so easy to drive a little more defensively, and not give others the opportunity to mess you up.
You put the control in the hands of others (as he does) and it’s only a matter of time… accident waiting to happen in my opinion. We know, as full time drivers, that nobody in this country knows how to use a sliproad properly. So why go charging in like that, expecting them to act as the code says, when we know full well they are just going to act stupidly.
And aside from anything else, life is too short to get so wound up over anything, and it seems like he is like that all the time, not just a one off.
Should check his licence back in with DVLA, and go work in a library or something.
I couldn’t agree more, that video was amusing but the driver has far more serious issues than the people he films
He does sound quite an agressive drive doesn’t he. Do you think if he couldn’t swear he’d run out of words to say?
As for his driving skills, well, whilst I am of little experience in class 1, I do tend to plan for other drivers lack of obvious driving skills such as backing off on power, changing lanes and all that lot.
Flashing headlights, sounding the horn, swearing. It does little to change the situation. The main annoyance I find with these drivers is they dawdle onto the motorway/dual carriageway via the slip, don’t accellerate until I move out into another lane to pass then they decide to speed up, which does annoy me. But I can’t do much about it can I. It’s not like I’m allowed to ram them.
This driver, I have come across them before and I do find it’s best to stay out of their hair.
Having spent a week out on the road I have found lots of other drivers to annoy me but if you plan that they don’t know what they’re doing, are new drivers or just dense then life moves on without too much stress. Still, there are the occasional FYTP moments and it’s those times I would like to step out of the cab and tell them off politely for why they are clearly being complete tools…
Professional Drivers are not exempt from this too. Whilst trying to park at Asda Chepstow I had an artic driver who held back yet a rigid parcel truck parked in his space whilst I was trying to reverse into mine merely because I was taking too long and trying not to hit anyone else…
Tarrman:
Which ever way you look at it it was obvious that the lorry driver would of had to change speed/direction. Or just plough straight on and expect others to move, as is the case with mentioned selfish lorry driver.
If I’m joining a motorway during a busy period from a slip road and there are 3 or 4 cars behind me and infront of me, and a big line of trucks in the left lane of the motorway am I expected to just carry on along the hard shoulder? Stop on the slip road? If everyone had a bit of common courtesy/sense then things like this wouldn’t happen. Just saying.
In the video where the LGV driver bullys the car joining the motorway, it’s not exactly busy and it wouldn’t of hurt him to slow down a couple of mph or move to lane 2.
I understand about giving way to the right and the car driver should of sped up.
You don’t stop on the slip road when traffic is moving on the motorway.
You don’t just barge on to a motorway if doing so would cause oncoming traffic to slow or swerve to avoid hitting you, if by the time you reach the end of the slip road and there isn’t a safe gap in traffic then you will have to stop ffs, that is the highway code
Driving on the motorway
259
Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking
Not only that but it would of been significantly easier /faster if the ■■■ in that car on the video has give the shed some gas ffs, then no need to end up in a situation like that close to being wiped out by a 44t truck , In other European countries most of their car drivers don’t hang about joining motorways, and if they see that barging in front of a truck would be dangerous they give way stopping if necessary When I’m on the motorways in my car i don’t hang about joining motorways, and i will stop to give way if need be, After driving a truck i have respect for trucks when I’m not in one, unlike most ,maybe down to a lack of education given about trucks and buses prior to driving test
Where does this come into it then?
"Highway code 270
You MUST NOT stop on the carriageway, hard shoulder, SLIP ROAD, central reservation or verge except in an emergency, or when told to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform, an emergency sign or by flashing red light signals. Do not stop on the hard shoulder to either make or receive mobile phone calls."
You are supposed to ‘blend in’ with traffic already on the main carriageway. I have never had to stop on a slip road, if its looking busy just slow it down and a gap will present itself.
Whatever, the fact of the matter is that traffic already on the main carriageway ALWAYS has priority and has no obligation whatsoever to slow down or yield.
That sect 270 stopping, would mean stopping to say use your phone, brushing your hair,or any other action that doesn’t involve driving stopping as in parking by applying handbrake ect,And on some slip roads you will be required to stop if they have part time traffic signals, in a situation such as during the rush hour peak times when the motorways are usually at there busiest Drivers of LGV’s may not be able to safety change lanes and as slamming on their anchors suddenly because some Muppet in a car decides to blunder their way on to lane 1 is wrong and dangerous
All because they are too impatient to wait a minute or so until there is a safe gap in the traffic and should this mean that they stop then so be it, sometimes there is no other choice unless you brake the law and run up accelerating along the hard shoulder (except on the motorways that now use the hard shoulder as an extra lane) in such case you wouldn’t be able to as it would have lots of traffic on it ,
as you yourself said common sense should be used,
so if needed you slow down or stop and wait for a safe gap or until someone creates that gap by changing lanes or slowing , but ffs don’t just assume that they will be able to slow or stop & change lane they have right of way not you.
But that’s the part that most of the car drivers can’t seem to grasp, they tend to think they always have right of way, or they are oblivious to what is going on around them, Driving on motorways should be included as part of the practical driving test as i think is the case in some European countries, at least then they wouldn’t have an excuse iof i didn’t know, or traffic scares me ffs,
You MUST NOT stop on the carriageway, hard shoulder, SLIP ROAD, central reservation or verge except in an emergency, or when told to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform, an emergency sign or by flashing red light signals. Do not stop on the hard shoulder to either make or receive mobile phone calls."
Waiting for a gap doesn’t signify an emergency.
What you should do is plan you entry on the motorway adjusting your speed to match and then pull into a gap. What you don’t do is barge on at whatever speed you’re doing, causing traffic already on the motorway to move over or brake, if you really [zb] up then it would be safer to use a bit of the hard shoulder than join in front of a vehicle doing 10 or 15 mph more then you.
I think it’s the van that caused the truck driver so much anxiety. But the cars were also at fault by blindly following the van instead of hanging back and then accelerating into a gap.
But as you correctly said the truck driver could of made allowances, and pulled over or hung back earlier to give some space. both courses of action would have made for a smoother more stress free drive. But this bloke is a complete moron, we’ve all met his type, the loudest voice in the cafe or RDC or on Jeremy Vine, telling everybody in earshot what a great driver he is and what [zb] all other drivers are.
I don’t always pull into the next lane if I see vehicles on the slip road, but I will if the situation will keep things running smoothly or to make allowances for incompetent drivers.
Yeah absolutely I’m not saying vehicles on the slip road can just join the motorway and expect others to move over/slam on, it takes a bit of discretion from the drivers already on he motorway (sometimes, not always), regarding the video of the guy in the truck hooting his horn at the incompetent driver joining the motorway, the lorry driver should of adjusted his speed or moved over as it was obvious the car driver was going to put themselves in the path of the wagon. In my opinion the lorry driver should of had loads of time to react to the other drivers mistake, not that he should have to mind, but better that than creating a near miss in a large vehicle.
Treat every vehicle joining a motorway as if the driver hasn’t got a clue how it should be done correctly, reason being is that most of them DON’T know, I’ve lost count of the number of near misses I’ve seen over the years. The majority of drivers seem to think that joining traffic has right of way and vehicles already on the motorway have to slow or move across for them.
Same idea when they pull off the hard shoulder onto the motorway, one flash of the indicator and hardly hit second gear before they are on the carriageway regardless of what’s happening in the nearside lane. Anyone remember the fatal near Leicester a few years ago when a car pulled off the hard shoulder straight in the path of a low loader with armoured personel carriers? The car driver got jailed but it didn’t bring back the folk who died as a result. When someone pulls out like that in front of you is there any wonder you end up questioning their parentage?
As for the original video, plus one to plod, shame they don’t book a few more for inconsiderate/dangerous driving.
Gouls:
Same idea when they pull off the hard shoulder onto the motorway, one flash of the indicator and hardly hit second gear before they are on the carriageway regardless of what’s happening in the nearside lane
Seen this a few times over the years driving a car, so dangerous.
Tarrman:
Yeah absolutely I’m not saying vehicles on the slip road can just join the motorway and expect others to move over/slam on, it takes a bit of discretion from the drivers already on he motorway (sometimes, not always), regarding the video of the guy in the truck hooting his horn at the incompetent driver joining the motorway, the lorry driver should of adjusted his speed or moved over as it was obvious the car driver was going to put themselves in the path of the wagon. In my opinion the lorry driver should of had loads of time to react to the other drivers mistake, not that he should have to mind, but better that than creating a near miss in a large vehicle.
Regarding the driver in particular, yes from the video it looks quiet enough for him to have changed lanes or slowed, but he still shouldn’t have to do so and it wouldn’t be clear cut in court following a insurance claim as the car driver failed to observe the highway code, and didn’t give way where he should have done from a legal standpoint , the truck driver was basically IMO just not prepared to show a little Courtesy and maybe he was having a bad day, maybe everyday is a bad day for him ,lol Welcome the chubby brown of lgv ,lol It’s not what he says that is so funny ,but the way he says it,
When im in a truck on a motorway if it’s safe for me to do so i will change lanes for traffic to join the motorway , but if it isn’t then i don’t even think about doing so, nor do i anticipate slowing to a stop to let them on, Because i and other traffic already on the motorway has the right of way and priority,failing that they will stop before i will, What really ■■■■■■ me off is it’s only in this country where it happens so frequently, is why i hate driving in the uk too many lemmings on the road
