Sorry to open another can of worms! First video is most interesting, what would you do?
What the hell is the point of this post 
You have found a video on youtube and decided to post it on here 
Nothing to do with brakes or gears just a compilation of oops! 
On the telly regular and on youtube all the time
dri-diddly-iver:
What the hell is the point of this postNothing to do with brakes or gears just a compilation of oops!
What he said.
Calm. Not been in many out of control trucks, so it is an interesting drivers-eye view of the reality of having no brakes, and facing some difficult choices.
Most of those, and there are around 12 5/10 minute films in that series alone, are not brake failure nor the result of overheating brakes, they are the results of letting chimps get behind the wheel of lorries.
As an aside, is this the Russia that the EU (Germany) is trying to strong arm, ISTR the Germans been there before the last time they ruled Europe (by force instead of money) and it didn’t end too well for them that time, as seen in those clips ordinary Russians are tough buggers.
This video has been discussed on the tipper truck crash topic.Classic case of not downshifting it when he had the chance at the start of the descent so no real engine braking when it mattered.As for a ‘driver’s perspective’ the concrete mixer driver’s approach to the job is how it should be done.
I feel like the only one who has not seen this before. Must stay in more.
Carryfast:
This video has been discussed on the tipper truck crash topic.Classic case of not downshifting it when he had the chance at the start of the descent so no real engine braking when it mattered.As for a ‘driver’s perspective’ the concrete mixer driver’s approach to the job is how it should be done.
Exactly. Long downhill descents should be, drop a gear or 2, use exhaust brake and only normal brakes when needed and not constantly to avoid over heating and loss of brakes when actually needed.
No matter how good your MODERN brakes are, they can and will still over heat.
7 of 9 truchs vor .if you ain’t a steward or a brownnose ur lucky if u get Brahe’s
Ebs
bobdebouwer:
Carryfast:
This video has been discussed on the tipper truck crash topic.Classic case of not downshifting it when he had the chance at the start of the descent so no real engine braking when it mattered.As for a ‘driver’s perspective’ the concrete mixer driver’s approach to the job is how it should be done.Exactly. Long downhill descents should be, drop a gear or 2, use exhaust brake and only normal brakes when needed and not constantly to avoid over heating and loss of brakes when actually needed.
No matter how good your MODERN brakes are, they can and will still over heat.
This, as far as the auto-box on your unit will let you and you’ve remembered to turn off the eco-roll mode on your Actros
recent identical topic 8 pages long = viewtopic.php?f=2&t=124548
ROG:
recent identical topic 8 pages long = viewtopic.php?f=2&t=124548
At the risk of being flamed for going ‘on’ and ‘on’ and ‘on’ etc etc.
To be fair the issue of brakes to slow gears to go is more about the specific issue of the brakes only to slow and block change to go method of driving when slowing down for hazards etc.
The issue of incorrect use of gears and/or brakes which aren’t at their best when descending hills arguably just being indirectly associated with that.By arguably compromising driver attitudes to the essential requirements of engine braking and/or potentially compromising brake condition/performance in terms of heat/wear reserves.
The driver in the case of the video example obviously being challenged in the essential use of gears,to maximise engine braking,as opposed to the concrete mixer driver. 
When I watched this video, it threw up a few questions in my head, and that is why I asked for the forums opinion.
The questions were not about the drivers technique though. He is obviously out of control. We are only really aware of this when we see and hear the mixer truck as it descends in low gear and at low speed, and he overtakes. My questions were:
When does he accept that the situation is unrecoverable? As he overtakes mixer truck does he believe he can ride the descent out? Would this not of been the best time to ditch into the gully?
When he reaches stationary traffic, he guides the truck between roadsign and vehicle, almost as if he does not want to damage vehicle? Would you of been so keen to retain preservation of the truck even at this point?
Given the choice between the standing traffic and ditch he chooses to crash into the vehicles. What would you do in same situation?
Janos:
When I watched this video, it threw up a few questions in my head, and that is why I asked for the forums opinion.The questions were not about the drivers technique though. He is obviously out of control. We are only really aware of this when we see and hear the mixer truck as it descends in low gear and at low speed, and he overtakes. My questions were:
When does he accept that the situation is unrecoverable? As he overtakes mixer truck does he believe he can ride the descent out? Would this not of been the best time to ditch into the gully?
When he reaches stationary traffic, he guides the truck between roadsign and vehicle, almost as if he does not want to damage vehicle? Would you of been so keen to retain preservation of the truck even at this point?
Given the choice between the standing traffic and ditch he chooses to crash into the vehicles. What would you do in same situation?
It doesn’t seem clear at what point he realised his mistake.Depending on what he meant in the call at 0.23 I’m guessing it was only ‘after’ he’d overtaken the mixer that he realised the brakes had predictably gone being that was probably inevitable from the start bearing in mind the gear it was obviously in.It was only after that when he realised that the brakes weren’t going to save him that he seemed to be oing by the combination of hoping that he’d be able to keep going until the road flattened out and then trying to take to the shoulder to try to avoid the traffic ahead.
However assuming that the call at 0.23 was because he knew at that point he was out of control then obviously that was the time to ditch it because from then on things could only get worse.Having said that it might be possible that the exit slip road where he hit the standing vehicle was actually an escape lane,or at least could have been used as one,which he was going for but was obviously blocked from reaching.
Good educational video … should be included in the DCPC 
!! bloody scary though, there but for the grace of God go I.
But (I forgot) 99.9% recurring of TN drivers are driving Gods
Carryfast:
Janos:
When I watched this video, it threw up a few questions in my head, and that is why I asked for the forums opinion.The questions were not about the drivers technique though. He is obviously out of control. We are only really aware of this when we see and hear the mixer truck as it descends in low gear and at low speed, and he overtakes. My questions were:
When does he accept that the situation is unrecoverable? As he overtakes mixer truck does he believe he can ride the descent out? Would this not of been the best time to ditch into the gully?
When he reaches stationary traffic, he guides the truck between roadsign and vehicle, almost as if he does not want to damage vehicle? Would you of been so keen to retain preservation of the truck even at this point?
Given the choice between the standing traffic and ditch he chooses to crash into the vehicles. What would you do in same situation?
It doesn’t seem clear at what point he realised his mistake.Depending on what he meant in the call at 0.23 I’m guessing it was only ‘after’ he’d overtaken the mixer that he realised the brakes had predictably gone being that was probably inevitable from the start bearing in mind the gear it was obviously in.It was only after that when he realised that the brakes weren’t going to save him that he seemed to be oing by the combination of hoping that he’d be able to keep going until the road flattened out and then trying to take to the shoulder to try to avoid the traffic ahead.
However assuming that the call at 0.23 was because he knew at that point he was out of control then obviously that was the time to ditch it because from then on things could only get worse.Having said that it might be possible that the exit slip road where he hit the standing vehicle was actually an escape lane,or at least could have been used as one,which he was going for but was obviously blocked from reaching.
The call at 0.23 is ‘oobliat’ (phonetic spelling!) which roughly translates as ‘oh ■■■■’.