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Thats a lot of money, for a lot of extra bird, hope theyre enjoying the holiday at her majestys pleisure. Its about time the punishment fits the crime, and seeing how much money they made ( over 10 mill) they got greedy, pushed their drivers to the limit, and got caught, now all their assets are being taken, so hopefully, when they get out, they will be where they first started, and serves them right.
Met a few boyles drivers over the years and always thought what a bunch of mugs, three of them parked beside me in bourdeux bp truck stop couple of years back and couldn’t wait to tell me that they had driven Glasgow Dover and calais bourdeux with only coffee breaks and a ferry crossings. And probably only an extra couple of quid in there paypacket for there trouble.
Decent drivers from the central belt area knew to stay well clear.
Is Boyle’s still going as a business as i still regularly see their trucks ?
This work practice enabled them to undercut deliveries on cost and time, and placed pressure on struggling competitors who were trying to work within the law. In an audit 91 per cen of journeys involving Boyle Transport trucks and drivers had some form of manipulation or falsification hiding the true driving and hours worked.
^^^ this
Well…maybe for the moment…but their fleet is one of the assets earmarked for disposal.
Why can’t this be done with ALL rich crooks? - There’s enough of them after all!
This firm really was taking the ■■■■ though…
I suspect the 22 hours driving was in fact shown as less than 10 on the digicard, because it’s taken out during what would normally be down as POA/Waiting…
shade:
This work practice enabled them to undercut deliveries on cost and time, and placed pressure on struggling competitors who were trying to work within the law. In an audit 91 per cen of journeys involving Boyle Transport trucks and drivers had some form of manipulation or falsification hiding the true driving and hours worked.
^^^ this
What a load of crap. You don’t make over £10,000,000 by undercutting.
And what does this sort of sentencing really do?
It puts money into the treasury, It saves more money by not locking people up, and It puts a whole load of drivers and other staff on the dole.
Not all the drivers ran bent. Some ran legal, The ones that ran bent did the extra and earned more money (Good money).
Funny how what they have done is illegal and dangerous, It’s a threat to the public, It’s just so bad that the government have relaxed the regulations to some hauliers recently. Those same hauliers could run as many hours as they like legally and “Safely”.
Double standards.
If the bosses have got £10m to be confiscated, and everyone else in the firm is being told the old “times are 'ard” excuse all the time, then I’m quite happy to see draconian sentences like this handed out…
There’s all kinds of possibilities as to how exactly the £10m has been made.
Handing out jail terms of years rather than weeks & months implies the evidence was pretty damning.
Prison isn’t a punishment however, if you get to keep the proceeds of crime the size of a lottery jackpot when you come out. Confiscating those proceeds is the right thing to do, and shouldn’t make other middle class employers quake with fear “cyprus style” - unless of course they are crooks themselves feeling the walls closing in…
If the firm had been paying £5k a week for getting their drivers to work 22 hours a pop, then nothing would have been said.
Some malcontent grassed them up to another competitor, who in turn got the police and VOSA involved I’m thinking here…
…I wonder who the biggest competitor in the ■■■■■■■ area might be? 
Dont think it was a case of been grassed up but the level off bent running at 91% any roadside check was showing breaches, when we shared a yard with them it was an occupational hazard for there drivers and yes some couldnt help telling all and sundry about it and the reason it was ■■■■■■■ Police was they had got stopped at the VOSA checkpoint at Carlisle and it went from there.
Limey are you still running a firm if si id hate to work there with your attitude
gordonw:
Dont think it was a case of been grassed up but the level off bent running at 91% any roadside check was showing breaches, when we shared a yard with them it was an occupational hazard for there drivers and yes some couldnt help telling all and sundry about it and the reason it was ■■■■■■■ Police was they had got stopped at the VOSA checkpoint at Carlisle and it went from there.
Don’t spoil winseers conspiracy theory. He thinks anything north of Watford Gap is a whippet infested village and now it seems he has moved Ireland into ■■■■■■■■
What new conspiracy might you be referring to?
As far as I’m concerned, the result in this case is the best possible outcome for the conspiracy that WAS taking place before - Some crook getting rich at the risk of their own staff and the general public losing it all, AND being jailed. 
Crackdowns like this need to be done across a much wider field, rather than “just up north” or “just among hauliers” so I think you’ve got me completely wrong here.
I’m chuffed that the millionaire bosses went to jail instead of the drivers, and I’m chuffed that the millionaire status itself was taken away from those who were obviously convinced beforehand that “crime always pays, because the government doesn’t like to bully the so-called captains of industry”.
Get out there and bully some more of them I say.
Winseer:
What new conspiracy might you be referring to?As far as I’m concerned, the result in this case is the best possible outcome for the conspiracy that WAS taking place before - Some crook getting rich at the risk of their own staff and the general public losing it all, AND being jailed.
I’m chuffed that the millionaire bosses went to jail instead of the drivers, and I’m chuffed that the millionaire status itself was taken away from those who were obviously convinced beforehand that “crime always pays, because the government doesn’t like to bully the so-called captains of industry”.
Get out there and bully some more of them I say.
You can’t run a bent company unless you have staff willing to run bent.
IMO the prison sentencing is ridiculously high. Seen people get less for murder.
by limeyphil » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:13 pm
shade wrote:
This work practice enabled them to undercut deliveries on cost and time, and placed pressure on struggling competitors who were trying to work within the law. In an audit 91 per cen of journeys involving Boyle Transport trucks and drivers had some form of manipulation or falsification hiding the true driving and hours worked.^^^ this
What a load of crap. You don’t make over £10,000,000 by undercutting.
And what does this sort of sentencing really do?
It puts money into the treasury, It saves more money by not locking people up, and It puts a whole load of drivers and other staff on the dole.
Not all the drivers ran bent. Some ran legal, The ones that ran bent did the extra and earned more money (Good money).
Funny how what they have done is illegal and dangerous, It’s a threat to the public, It’s just so bad that the government have relaxed the regulations to some hauliers recently. Those same hauliers could run as many hours as they like legally and “Safely”.
Double standards.
So Phil , what part of my post are you saying is a " load of crap " ?
Yes , I agree with your point about double standards over the restrictions being lifted (nothing to do with the copied text I posted ), but in the Boyle case the point is they were running bent 91% of the time !! It clearly says they were undercutting on cost and time . If your firm lost contracts to Boyle because the drivers were doing the work of two drivers , you’d be the first to ■■■■■ ! You seem to have the attitude that drivers will still run bent as long as the beer tokens are abundant ,and it’d ok because that’s "old school "… times have changed though I’m afraid . 
As someone has already said , if you are in fact , running drivers I’m glad i’m not one of them .
Boyle are still running , I saw a pic yesterday of one of there brand new Iveco Hi-Way’s in Dover 
shade:
So Phil , what part of my post are you saying is a " load of crap " ?
Its Phil. He’s such a good driver that he’s having to go abroad to find work because nobody in the UK will employ him.
91 per cen of journeys involving Boyle Transport trucks and drivers had some form of manipulation or falsification hiding the true driving and hours worked.
The maximum driving in a fortnight is 90 hours. Therefore in order for 91% of journeys to have had some sort of manipulation, They would have had to have driven for around 1000 hours per fornight.
(1000 hours) - (91%) = 90 hours driving.
So when i see quotes like 91% of journeys have been manipulated, I can’t help thinking it’s a load of crap.
What i do find astonishing is how gullible people are.
And Conor, I don’t work for English firms for a reason. They are full of jobsworth yes men that spoil the job by working for peanuts. I will choose who i work for, and where i work.
limeyphil:
91 per cen of journeys involving Boyle Transport trucks and drivers had some form of manipulation or falsification hiding the true driving and hours worked.
The maximum driving in a fortnight is 90 hours. Therefore in order for 91% of journeys to have had some sort of manipulation, They would have had to have driven for around 1000 hours per fornight.
(1000 hours) - (91%) = 90 hours driving.
So when i see quotes like 91% of journeys have been manipulated, I can’t help thinking it’s a load of crap.
What i do find astonishing is how gullible people are.
Really■■? Or could the"journey" simply be a round trip somewhere whereby during the course of that trip an infringement had occurred. So for simple arguments sake out of 500 round trips 455 showed an infringement had occurred during that trip which makes it 91%. Which is much more achievable and believe able.
limeyphil if u put lorry on the road gave me a call. i’ll work for you…sorry folks but i’m a cowboy and i like to ride the wild horse
Greg:
limeyphil:
91 per cen of journeys involving Boyle Transport trucks and drivers had some form of manipulation or falsification hiding the true driving and hours worked.
The maximum driving in a fortnight is 90 hours. Therefore in order for 91% of journeys to have had some sort of manipulation, They would have had to have driven for around 1000 hours per fornight.
(1000 hours) - (91%) = 90 hours driving.
So when i see quotes like 91% of journeys have been manipulated, I can’t help thinking it’s a load of crap.
What i do find astonishing is how gullible people are.Really■■? Or could the"journey" simply be a round trip somewhere whereby during the course of that trip an infringement had occurred. So for simple arguments sake out of 500 round trips 455 showed an infringement had occurred during that trip which makes it 91%. Which is much more achievable and believe able.
I don’t know. It’s the way i read it. I suppose the 91% thing could be interpreted in a few ways. My interpretation is just one of them.
But whatever way it is, The sentencing is way out of order for a bit of bent running.