How zb dear is block paving,there going to shut down one of the depots because they recon it’s going to cost 1,800,000 to re-do it ( somebody must be making a killing ,)
Anyway surely if you lease the yard it’s up to the landlord to sort it,and surely it wouldn’t cost nigh on 2 million to concrete the bloody thing .
Who the zb he’ll came up with the bloody idea of block paving the bloody thing in the first place.
Bizarre.
Block paving and lorries dont mix
I remember being asked to put a roadsweeper over some block paving. I asked if they were sure they wanted me to do it, they soon changed their mind when they started clattering into the back.
5RRF:
Block paving and lorries dont mix
They seem to make a lot of use of it in Belgium, Holland and Germany
5RRF:
Block paving and lorries dont mix
youd better tell felixstowe docks that then, its all block paving in the container terminals
Concrete is the best surface for yards, last a good 10+ year. Never experienced a block paved yard in all my days must be a new fangled idea.
5RRF:
Block paving and lorries dont mix
Looking at the state of the yard I’d say your right,but nearly 2 million to re-do it
The actual blocks look ok to me ( haven’t been there for about 8 months so may of changed) it’s just they’ve moved ,I’ve never had anything to do with block paving,but surely you could just relay them,concrete it,it just sounds a lot of money to me too redo a yard.
I’d of still thought it would be down to the landlord to re-do it,I think it’s more likely a excuse to shut it.
you just need one of these
youtube.com/watch?v=SJT3X4weECE
I was once told by a contractor who surfaces large areas, that block paving & Tarmac are roughly the same cost per m2, but block paving requires a lot less drainage & doesn’t suffer puddles as much.
d4c24a:
you just need one of these
youtube.com/watch?v=SJT3X4weECE
That’s ace, one of those simple ideas that I wish I’d had.
Chas:
I was once told by a contractor who surfaces large areas, that block paving & Tarmac are roughly the same cost per m2, but block paving requires a lot less drainage & doesn’t suffer puddles as much.
Modern building regs require that paved surfaces are absorbent. You can get absorbent tarmac but I bet it’s more expensive. They would probably not be allowed to lay concrete.
Our yard is in a rural area and we were told by the local council that if we wished to expand it, it would have to be block paving, not concrete or tarmac as it was deemed block paving was not a “permanent” surface. 10 years later its as good as new.
dozy we all must be in the wrong industry here
trucken:
Our yard is in a rural area and we were told by the local council that if we wished to expand it, it would have to be block paving, not concrete or tarmac as it was deemed block paving was not a “permanent” surface. 10 years later its as good as new.
If it’s laid to acceptable standards then there’s no reason it shouldn’t.
Maybe some folk have had the “Tarmac yer droivway” brigade to lay their blocks?
Hiya having a quick count there was about 1200 pavers on show where they was laying.
the pavers are a qiud each.it’ll soon add up seen the area was only about 4 metre square.
you’ve got the prep to cosider i would think its 3K for the area of a unit and trailer.
John
3300John:
Hiya having a quick count there was about 1200 pavers on show where they was laying.
the pavers are a qiud each.it’ll soon add up seen the area was only about 4 metre square.
you’ve got the prep to cosider i would think its 3K for the area of a unit and trailer.
John
jesus a pound each for a block paver are they gold ones
Chas:
I was once told by a contractor who surfaces large areas, that block paving & Tarmac are roughly the same cost per m2, but block paving requires a lot less drainage & doesn’t suffer puddles as much.
Yep you’d be about right, because of the labour involved in it. Them boys want paying good wages like you do for doing your job. And back in the mid 2000’s they used to go for bonuses like the brickies for amount laid per day. So they worked like zb! Also if they are good then they can make a pile of paviers blocks function and look very good, which is what they are supposed to do.
However they should still use drainage otherwise the water will build up underneath and reduce the support to the traffic above. Wet sand, that doesn’t drain well normally won’t support much. In really really terrible situations it can go into a state of liquefaction, its like a type of quicksand…
The main cost comes from the preparation works needed to initially lay it and the drainage they use under it and all the relevant trades involved in that process of getting it from a dug hole, laying the drainage (quite a few different types/ways), back filling properly, laying all the base layers and compacting them etc, etc to the finished pretty article of bricks that water doesn’t sit on top of.
Santa:
Modern building regs require that paved surfaces are absorbent. You can get absorbent tarmac but I bet it’s more expensive. They would probably not be allowed to lay concrete.
Yep you can get porous tarmac, it’s really, really good stuff. Again back in the mid 2000’s I was involved in laying porous tarmac to various crossfalls for drainage in a newly built school’s playground and sport areas. (give me zbing strength its porous for a reason).
This tarmac was 2.5 times the price of normal tarmac. Not sure how much it’d be now, at the time it wasn’t approved by the DOT but they were trialling it for motorways and wanted to use it on quite a few stretches of the road network (pre-recession).
Under all the porous tarmac and block paving we had to use sustainable draingage, so massive 3m deep holes the entire area to be block paved had to be dug and then these things like massive egg/milk crates were put in the ground. These crates slowed and held back the water from overwhelming the drainage system. Used a lot in Europe and work extrememly well. That’s a lot of work involved in achieving that, so the above figures aren’t looking that bad in reality.
dozy:
Anyway surely if you lease the yard it’s up to the landlord to sort it,and surely it wouldn’t cost nigh on 2 million to concrete the bloody thing . Bizarre.
Depends who done the damage to the yard, if “you” damage your landlord’s stuff they rightfully want paying for it. You would, if you was a landlord wouldn’t you, especially if you was looking to potentially lease the yard again or prevent anymore expensive damage being done.
C
d4c24a:
3300John:
Hiya having a quick count there was about 1200 pavers on show where they was laying.
the pavers are a qiud each.it’ll soon add up seen the area was only about 4 metre square.
you’ve got the prep to cosider i would think its 3K for the area of a unit and trailer.
Johnjesus a pound each for a block paver are they gold ones
Not a bad price I’d say you’ve worked out there John.
In 2009 the area for just a unit and trailer would’ve gone for about £3900 with a slight variation depending on location and demand for pavers in the area.
Now demand is picking up and not many good trades left that were decimated by the recession, prices go up accordingly and depending on the programme required to do the job in, all drive the price up.
Not sure of the depot size but that could be a reasonable price though!
I want to buy shares in pavers now
C
Surely you could lift the blocks re scalp and sand the foundation and lay them back down replacing the obvious damaged ones only?. In terms off labour it wouldn’t save a great deal off time but if a yards that big would save a lot on new blocks.