Birmingham and black country firms

pete smith:

hereford1971:

pete smith:

hereford1971:
Some of my late fathers trucks

Hi Nigel,
Took in C+B Smiths? Here is a poor quality photo of the foundry, Cheer’s Pete

Evening Peter

Do you have any photos or information on a company based in Pear Tree Lane?
They ran a fleet of red tippers■■?

Cheers Nigel

Morning Nigel,
There was Male and son as Pete (Windrush) mentioned, but their yard was at Pensnett, Coopers is the only one I can think of that was near to Pear Tree Lane, they ran Leylands and are still about with a couple of Volvo’s,also Brian Hill ran Leyland constructor’s,some more will spring to mind throughout the day no doubt! Cheer’s Pete

Morning Peter

It was Pear Tree Lane Wednesfield,next to the Pear Tree pub.Just off the Cannock road
I think they dragged sand.I’m sure that they ran Leyland Reivers and Clydesdales.

Cheers Nigel

Apologies, I thought that you meant Pear Tree Lane at Pensnet! :blush: We used to go to a blacking factory there.

Pete.

windrush:
Apologies, I thought that you meant Pear Tree Lane at Pensnet! :blush: We used to go to a blacking factory there.

Pete.

It is only a mile away Pete, it could be Males as their yard was not big enough for all the trucks so some of the drivers took them home!

pete smith:

windrush:
Apologies, I thought that you meant Pear Tree Lane at Pensnet! :blush: We used to go to a blacking factory there.

Pete.

It is only a mile away Pete, it could be Males as their yard was not big enough for all the trucks so some of the drivers took them home!

No Peter I’m on about Pear Tree Lane Bushbury.Just off the Cannock Road.Definitely not Jack Males.I think the company was called Lowes.They built three or four houses on the yard in the mid eighties.

Nigel

Hi Nigel, I thought you meant Pear Tree Lane in Dudley :blush: ,yes it was Lowes, Windmill Quarry, last lorries I remember were Leyland Reivers with the G cabs,they had the quarry by Hilton Main Colliery before Tarmac took it over, Trev H or Saviem may be able to add more, Cheers Pete

Rather a lot of Pear Trees in the Black Country! :laughing:

Pete.

Evening all,

By gum Gentlemen, you are taking me back now…Lowes Sand and Gravel, nice AECs, one of the first that Chris, (Kelly), bought out in the late `70s. Their quarry was on the left and right of the road up from the A460 to the Windmill at Essington. Had a tunnel under the road, (its still there), and their plant on the left is now the Block plant, and the South Staffs Council built some starter units on the back of the site.

When they finished the site was sold for housing, when I pass it I often wonder how all the lorries were parked in such a small area…

Lovely little fleet, red and always looked clean and tidy. It was about the time Chris was working from Mervyn Jacksons yard in Neachells lane, (where Foulkes ran the Mercedes Dealership from originally), and Square Deal Neil was “helping out”, and training Mike Kelly…

Now you have really got the little grey cells vibrating…remember Webbs at Bilston, those lovely AECs, and the well worn Boden tandems on Steel , squeezing down between those terraced houses… yet another yard that is now housing…Even the Café, and parking is now a Sikh Temple…and poor old Kevin Biddlestones emporium is just a hole in the ground!..What a tragic end he met, and such talent…he could make a piece of Hardboard look like solid oak!

And remember Barry Sanson, top of Harden Road, owned the row of houses, flattened all the gardens, nice arched entrance in the centre of the row…and all those Foden artics lined up behind, another smart fleet. Gaynor, Barry`s daughter married Jimmy Jones , (Stadium Commercials, at Perry Bar), and of course Marcus ran Cromwell Commercials…

One of the lads who does a bit for me showed me an article in one of the old lorry books about F86 Volvos.....mostly in the Midlands............When I looked at the vehicles, (and the incorrect captions).....all except one were sold by my pal Rob Owens, or me from Hartshornes…

Is it really that long ago?

I need a drink…M Bollinger calls…

Saviem:
Evening all,

By gum Gentlemen, you are taking me back now…Lowes Sand and Gravel, nice AECs, one of the first that Chris, (Kelly), bought out in the late `70s. Their quarry was on the left and right of the road up from the A460 to the Windmill at Essington. Had a tunnel under the road, (its still there), and their plant on the left is now the Block plant, and the South Staffs Council built some starter units on the back of the site.

When they finished the site was sold for housing, when I pass it I often wonder how all the lorries were parked in such a small area…

Lovely little fleet, red and always looked clean and tidy. It was about the time Chris was working from Mervyn Jacksons yard in Neachells lane, (where Foulkes ran the Mercedes Dealership from originally), and Square Deal Neil was “helping out”, and training Mike Kelly…

Now you have really got the little grey cells vibrating…remember Webbs at Bilston, those lovely AECs, and the well worn Boden tandems on Steel , squeezing down between those terraced houses… yet another yard that is now housing…Even the Café, and parking is now a Sikh Temple…and poor old Kevin Biddlestones emporium is just a hole in the ground!..What a tragic end he met, and such talent…he could make a piece of Hardboard look like solid oak!

And remember Barry Sanson, top of Harden Road, owned the row of houses, flattened all the gardens, nice arched entrance in the centre of the row…and all those Foden artics lined up behind, another smart fleet. Gaynor, Barry`s daughter married Jimmy Jones , (Stadium Commercials, at Perry Bar), and of course Marcus ran Cromwell Commercials…

One of the lads who does a bit for me showed me an article in one of the old lorry books about F86 Volvos.....mostly in the Midlands............When I looked at the vehicles, (and the incorrect captions).....all except one were sold by my pal Rob Owens, or me from Hartshornes…

Is it really that long ago?

I need a drink…M Bollinger calls…

When were you at Hartshornes, Saviem? When I worked for Edgar Bentley our first foreign lorry, and one and only Volvo, came from Hartshornes Walsall in late 1975. An F88 290 - in those days, when you drove one of those you really WERE King of the Road!

Steve

Saviem:
Evening all,

By gum Gentlemen, you are taking me back now…Lowes Sand and Gravel, nice AECs, one of the first that Chris, (Kelly), bought out in the late `70s. Their quarry was on the left and right of the road up from the A460 to the Windmill at Essington. Had a tunnel under the road, (its still there), and their plant on the left is now the Block plant, and the South Staffs Council built some starter units on the back of the site.

When they finished the site was sold for housing, when I pass it I often wonder how all the lorries were parked in such a small area…

Lovely little fleet, red and always looked clean and tidy. It was about the time Chris was working from Mervyn Jacksons yard in Neachells lane, (where Foulkes ran the Mercedes Dealership from originally), and Square Deal Neil was “helping out”, and training Mike Kelly…

Now you have really got the little grey cells vibrating…remember Webbs at Bilston, those lovely AECs, and the well worn Boden tandems on Steel , squeezing down between those terraced houses… yet another yard that is now housing…Even the Café, and parking is now a Sikh Temple…and poor old Kevin Biddlestones emporium is just a hole in the ground!..What a tragic end he met, and such talent…he could make a piece of Hardboard look like solid oak!

And remember Barry Sanson, top of Harden Road, owned the row of houses, flattened all the gardens, nice arched entrance in the centre of the row…and all those Foden artics lined up behind, another smart fleet. Gaynor, Barry`s daughter married Jimmy Jones , (Stadium Commercials, at Perry Bar), and of course Marcus ran Cromwell Commercials…

One of the lads who does a bit for me showed me an article in one of the old lorry books about F86 Volvos.....mostly in the Midlands............When I looked at the vehicles, (and the incorrect captions).....all except one were sold by my pal Rob Owens, or me from Hartshornes…

Is it really that long ago?

I need a drink…M Bollinger calls…

Hi Saviem,
I had my first push bike from Biddlestones, the shop on the corner of Bradshaw Street, Hossley Fields all buried under them breeding hutches/knocking shops :frowning: , Who was the transport company in between the houses in Bushbury Lane, on the right hand side going towards Goodyears? I think they had ergo cabbed AEC’s or Leyland’s

Evening Peter Pm sent.
Nigel

Dave Henton Transport, his base was Thomas Ingles old yard Spring Road Ettingshall then he moved to Almans yard in New Invention. 2nd pic is Dave outside Kelly’s with a new 112

A couple of Horace Kendricks,Compound Girders in an aluminium body…ouch

Kenny Grainger, Wolverhampton

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pete smith:
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That was Mick Jones’s pride and joy! Here’s another picture of it. A rare beast. Robert

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Adam Jones Blackheath, Did you flog them this Saviem before Chris got them hooked on Scania’s?

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Oh dear Pt

pete smith:
Adam Jones Blackheath, Did you flog them this Saviem before Chris got them hooked on Scania’s?

Oh dear Pete, now the history comes back…

First that day cab must have come from “Square Deal Neil”, (Jones), who took over from me at Rylands Dudley…I went about `72 ish!

Roy, John, (RIP my dear friend), and Clive, Ashley Street Blackheath, Adam Jones and Sons, Mrs Jones, (mom), lived in the last house on the right hand side. The office was in the next one down, the last one was Roy`s office…and later became the office of Eagle Truck Sales, run by Square Deal Neil.

Opposite was the parts department in a single story shed, (more Atkinson bits than they had at Preston), run by a nice lad who had a taste of JAP and Speedway…frightened myself to bits when I tried his bike down at the Heathens ground!!!

The workshops were up on the bank, (now well gone), next to the railway tunnel, “pepper pot”, where John maintained the fleet. That blue Gardner atmosphere must have given him his Cancer. There was nothing that he could not do…engineer…or create. What went on there was truly fantastic.

The family had a Mitsubishi agency back in `71, when Mitsubishi was handled through those intransigent people at Colt Cars in Cirencester. John created the first “life style” pick ups, …two piece rims…big rubber…exotic paint…everyone, who was everyone in the Blackcountry ran one…they were way ahead of their time!

Then John started to manufacture replica cars and kit cars, , you should have seen his mid `30 Mercedes! But Roy ran a Pagoda Mercedes as his own!

For me I really rated the family, and did lots of business…Mk 1 , Mk 2 Atkinsons, then Borderers, but always 180, or 240 Gardner powered, even with that awfull, screaming David Brown 8 Speed range change gearbox,. Trailers, (always Coilers), but the trailer fleet was well used, the shunters at Halesowen`s Coombe Works saw to that… But the tractors wee always superbly turned out!

I bought the drop framed car transporter that John created, Hillman Imp wheels, tri axle 28 ft long, rubber suspension…ran it for years…well overloaded…beautiful design…never broke…

Wonderful livery, Royal Blue, Cream, with Gold Leaf Lettering…If I ever, (with a fit of madness) decided to have an Atkinson Borderer, then I would paint it in Adam Jones`s livery…nothing more spectacular…

When I gave up on the UK and sought opportunities overseas it was Roy Jones who gave me a testimonial…and unbeknown to me was the turning point when I was interviewed in France for a job with Saviem…my new Boss, had seen a number of Adam Jones outfits when he had visited Birmingham in the early `70s…and he reasoned that if such an operator would give a great testimonial to this young lad…then he had potential…

Adam Jones…Roy, John Clive…what an outfit, proper hauliers, and so many happy hours spent with them…

And then “Square Deal Neil”, (Jones), Richardson Twins Nephew, great man, superb lorry salesman, it was he, who turned Roy onto Scania, then developed Eagle Truck Sales…(and they could have become Hino1s spearhead into the UK if Roy had followed through)…I just have the highest possible regard for all of them…And will never forget Neils advice and help when our Daughter was so gravely injured in a road accident in 98…he had been there before, and his kindness I will never forget.

Even, (for the sake of memory…and only sadness came back), had a cup of dreadfull coffee in the Sainsburys that now occupies the Ashley Street site…but it could never equal a cup of Mrs Jones Snrs Tea, and a bit of Cake before I went on to do business with her sons…my last deal was in `74, an 8 speed F88 240…and as ever it looked magnificent in their livery…

Happy memories indeed Pete…

Cheerio for now.

Hi Saviem,
Thank you for the reply,I can remember Jones’s old yard up the side of the Ashley pub but as you say its a Sainsbury’s now, Stewarts and Lloyds ■■■’s Wood tube works is where Jones’s new yard is now right beside the cut, here is one of Gill’s Four Ashes, used to park in Essington think it was Gill’s brother who drove this,( can’t remember names) now sadly passed away, Cheer’s Pete

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George Hipkins,Great Bridge, Tipton

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Avery’s weighbridge calibration units, the green one was still on the fleet in 1985, Cheer’s Pete

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