Beware in Poole and Bournemouth

stu675:

robroy:
My view (seeing as I was singled out in o/p) is this.
I first had a cab phone in 85, when they were a fixture so you had to hold them.so at that time and for about 10 or so years after, holding a phone was acceptable,.and those of us who had a brain and an ability to multi task (it’s a human trait and natural ability btw) managed just fine thanks.
But…as with everything else the minority of inept idiots who were born incapable could not manage,.so people were injured and worse…so the idiots set the new parameters,.so talkng on the phone non hands free was banned.

That and the combination of views of ‘experts’, set off the usual British public way of…‘‘It must be right because the experts say it is’’ ,.and the ramming it down our necks in a Goebbles esque type of way, worked a treat with said public to ‘‘prove’’ the points (as usual) …just like Covid theories on BOTH sides of the coin as an example.
Don’t bother trying to convince me with.‘‘facts’’ and links,.as it’s been done to death on here. :unamused:

So basically, bearing that in mind, these days I never use a phone hand held,.not because I believe the hype, but because I have no desire to be nicked.

As for texting whilst driving…different ball game as you are constantly looking at your phone and your mind is off the ball, so I do see that point.

But the Old Bill again :unamused: …they have took full advantage of this to make a bit of extra cash (yeh I know, I’m even boring myself banging on about it) by policing laws that have moved the goal posts, now you can’t even TOUCH your phone, :unamused: you can not put on a track to listen to music on the phone,.so a zero tolerance.k non discretionary blanket ban just like everything else is dealt with in the UK.

Now if I get one of those new abomination Actros, it has a touch screen exactly the same as a phone, to work even the radio.
So if my phone in the cradle is adjacent to said screen, I can use the screen, but not move my fingers 2 inches to do same on my phone…so draw your own conclusions.

But to sum up the making calls thing whilst driving, anybody who holds a phone to their ear, and knows the score is an idiot,…when you see the number of hands free systems out there,.so no sympathy from me.

As for Police tactics on this and usual priorities…not even going there., as no doubt Monkey boy will be along soon as soon as the word ‘‘Police’’ flags up in his psyche. :smiley:

That’s not true is it? If your phone is in a fixed cradle, you can still use it all you want.

Way I understand it is you can not touch your phone from a new rule about 2 weeks ago.
I read somewhere (sure I didn’t dream it :smiley: ( that there are specific cameras on some m’ways to catch you.
You need to make acall via your dashboard and appropriate switches, in the case of an Actros that switch is on steering wheel.
If it turns out to be usual drivercrap,.I do apologise, but I’m at least 90% sure it is true…I think. :laughing:

It’s getting…

Confusing now. I can’t touch my phone despite it being in a cradle but, I can touch the button (just below my phone) that shows me an incoming text message which, I can either read or have Ford’s ■■■■ voice computer girl read it out loud to me.

robroy:

stu675:

robroy:
My view (seeing as I was singled out in o/p) is this.
I first had a cab phone in 85, when they were a fixture so you had to hold them.so at that time and for about 10 or so years after, holding a phone was acceptable,.and those of us who had a brain and an ability to multi task (it’s a human trait and natural ability btw) managed just fine thanks.
But…as with everything else the minority of inept idiots who were born incapable could not manage,.so people were injured and worse…so the idiots set the new parameters,.so talkng on the phone non hands free was banned.

That and the combination of views of ‘experts’, set off the usual British public way of…‘‘It must be right because the experts say it is’’ ,.and the ramming it down our necks in a Goebbles esque type of way, worked a treat with said public to ‘‘prove’’ the points (as usual) …just like Covid theories on BOTH sides of the coin as an example.
Don’t bother trying to convince me with.‘‘facts’’ and links,.as it’s been done to death on here. :unamused:

So basically, bearing that in mind, these days I never use a phone hand held,.not because I believe the hype, but because I have no desire to be nicked.

As for texting whilst driving…different ball game as you are constantly looking at your phone and your mind is off the ball, so I do see that point.

But the Old Bill again :unamused: …they have took full advantage of this to make a bit of extra cash (yeh I know, I’m even boring myself banging on about it) by policing laws that have moved the goal posts, now you can’t even TOUCH your phone, :unamused: you can not put on a track to listen to music on the phone,.so a zero tolerance.k non discretionary blanket ban just like everything else is dealt with in the UK.

Now if I get one of those new abomination Actros, it has a touch screen exactly the same as a phone, to work even the radio.
So if my phone in the cradle is adjacent to said screen, I can use the screen, but not move my fingers 2 inches to do same on my phone…so draw your own conclusions.

But to sum up the making calls thing whilst driving, anybody who holds a phone to their ear, and knows the score is an idiot,…when you see the number of hands free systems out there,.so no sympathy from me.

As for Police tactics on this and usual priorities…not even going there., as no doubt Monkey boy will be along soon as soon as the word ‘‘Police’’ flags up in his psyche. :smiley:

That’s not true is it? If your phone is in a fixed cradle, you can still use it all you want.

Way I understand it is you can not touch your phone from a new rule about 2 weeks ago.
I read somewhere (sure I didn’t dream it :smiley: ( that there are specific cameras on some m’ways to catch you.
You need to make acall via your dashboard and appropriate switches, in the case of an Actros that switch is on steering wheel.
If it turns out to be usual drivercrap,.I do apologise, but I’m at least 90% sure it is true…I think. :laughing:

No need to apologise, but I’m 91% sure you’re wrong :wink:
I believe the rule change that has just come in is that previously you could only be done for phone calls or text messages. Now you can be done for anything, such as checking the time, if it is not in a cradle.

fleetnews.co.uk/news/fleet- … a%20cradle.
Fleet news - the definitive authority on here? :wink: complaining the new laws don’t go far enough.

When it comes down to whether or not you agree with the law on mobile phone use whilst driving, the same as whether or not you agree with the CPC, the law is the law and it is pointless to argue the rights and wrongs. The fact remains that it is the law so you have to follow the rules. I really couldnt care less if anyone wants to use their phone or just touch it whilst driving. You get caught, you suffer the consequences so just don’t do it. The police are doing their job catching the nutters who do it so it really doesn’t matter how they choose to do it. You cannot cry that it isnt fair.