I’ve always found the Scania engine pulls well for the rating.
Just going to wash my mouth out with more beer after saying that.
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and I hope you wash it out properly…saying things like!!! 
ERF E14 ■■■■■■■ with eaton twin split pull all day long smooth power band sounds great, last one I had E900ETM, dogs bollox. would swap any scania or volvo for it now.
Much as I like the E14 and M11 the engine which surprised me the most has to be the Rolls Royce eagle 410 they rev so high a different style of driving is required to the ■■■■■■■ ,I never thought they pulled like they do 1600 rpm and they have much much more left to give .
I always found the Rolls Royce eagle at whatever horsepower rating out pulled anything in it’s class.
DaiDap:
Took a lo ride Volvo 520 to Italy a couple of years back, and coming home up Mont Blanc at 40t she was just epic. Never driven a truck that pulled so well. Just seemed to dig in and find a bit extra every time.As for modest power, a 380 ■■■■■■■ ERF I had for a while was pretty good.
Volvos I find are like that… the heavier they are the better they go!!!
jessicas dad:
DaiDap:
Took a lo ride Volvo 520 to Italy a couple of years back, and coming home up Mont Blanc at 40t she was just epic. Never driven a truck that pulled so well. Just seemed to dig in and find a bit extra every time.As for modest power, a 380 ■■■■■■■ ERF I had for a while was pretty good.
Volvos I find are like that… the heavier they are the better they go!!!
And yet my red Volvo would crap itself on the same hill, and that was also a 520. The difference being the lo rider was euro 3 and the red one was euro 5. Age wise there was less than 12 months between them.
ricardo62:
I had a Iveco not sure what model but this is showing my age, it was the 1 they made with the black slatted grill in the side window ? not sure if anyone remembers them , but took a container of manhole covers to a place in wales once , and it went ok gross weight 42 tons
turbostar ■■
yep that’s the 1 it was the 1 before the Eurostar and had a eaton twin splt
I drove an N reg Iveco Eurostar 520 in the mid 90’s. The semi auto gearbox wasn’t great but the engine was epic. Also drove an R reg 530 Actros about the same time. Epic trucks compared to the norm of the day. The Actros in particular was a greattruck to drive/ live in.
by the way am I right wen I said twin splitter ie it was a short stubby gear lever with 4 positions and a metal lever in the front of stick that moved from left to right in 3 positions
ricardo62:
by the way am I right wen I said twin splitter ie it was a short stubby gear lever with 4 positions and a metal lever in the front of stick that moved from left to right in 3 positions
Yep, that’s the baby. Best gearbox ever
I had a 480 Italian spec Turbo Star, breathed on by someone that new a thing or two. In it’s day the only things that would pass it were empty, and even they struggled, 142’s F16’s no chance of getting near it. The only problem with it was that you could only drive it nights and early mornings or else you would just get stuck behind things. As for fuel if you weren’t silly it did the best part of 8.5 on a normal Italy or Spain 38ish tons each way.
The Italian mechanic told me they were useless unless you had the original exhaust on them, as the vertical ones didn’t offer the right amount of back pressure.
I also pulled a fully loaded ACH Magnum up the Blonc with it while I was sitting at 38ton, it didn’t seem to mind to much. All we had between us was a 5 tone strap so that got doubled up with a few twists and of we went.
Jeff
I’ve noticed my old Volvo pulled better when it’s ahem overloaded.
I’ve driven a star and I loved it
When I was doing Oman and China I had a series 1 FH 500 and went pretty good, it was about on par with the 143 500’s we had, there really wasn’t much between them and they ran together pretty well.
When I was came back to Australia I had an FH500 running as B Double at 69 ton gross, even running just 1 trailer at 40 ton it wasn’t as good as the FH 500 I had in Europe. I put it down the the fact that it had a vertical exhaust which was pretty much straight of the back of the turbo.
My F12 ( not the best truck I ever drove but defiantly my favorite ) burnt a hole in the exhaust down pipe on the way to Spain and I decided to run the rest of the trip and fix it when I got back. When I lifted my foot of the accelerator it made a whooping sound, a bit like a giant diesel powered Didgeridoo, which was the back pressure escaping. When you got back on the gas you had to make all that back before the turbo would start winding again. It’s the same sound that most 90’s 2000’ trucks make in Australia, It would be a fairly simple fix to sort something out, but no one seemed to want to do anything except call Europe trucks crap and gutless, which due to a simple fault they were.
I had a Western Star with a ■■■■■■■ Signature in it hauling logs and that went pretty well. Any truck with the last of the big bangers ( Big Cats, big ■■■■■■■■ V Mack) is worth about as much as a new truck here at the moment, very few for sale. \
Jeff…
There wasnt a series 1 FH 500, unless it was a chipped up 420 or 460, or a series 2(which there was a FH500)
There was a 16 litre 520 thou.
M.A.N 19.361 I had in Germany during the 90,s its straight six pulled well when mated to the eaton - fuller box but by far and away was the 19.462 18l v10 twin turbo, nothing could touch IT then or now, horse power for horse power and the sheer torque make it the greatest truck engine ever built, imo.
Those blocks are still being used in specialist vehicles and could develop well beyond 1500hp.
and as the yanks say no replacement for displacement.
twozuluzlu:
M.A.N 19.361 I had in Germany during the 90,s its straight six pulled well when mated to the eaton - fuller box but by far and away was the 19.462 18l v10 twin turbo, nothing could touch IT then or now, horse power for horse power and the sheer torque make it the greatest truck engine ever built, imo.
Those blocks are still being used in specialist vehicles and could develop well beyond 1500hp.
and as the yanks say no replacement for displacement.
Abso fricking lutely…
You get these little vechicles now with turbo’s n stuff. Even small engined motorbikes that give larger engines a run for their money, but they only work at the right rev - anything but ideal and they ■■■■.
MANs pull well at weight, the best i have driven is the TGX 28?.480. My current steed is a Highline with the 420 unit in. Given that we are always delivering Rebar and Concrete I find it horrifying that we use trucks that would struggle to pull the skin off a rice pudding.
I always found the Premiums pull well. The 450 is good, the 460 is a world better.
Dan Punchard:
Much as I like the E14 and M11 the engine which surprised me the most has to be the Rolls Royce eagle 410 they rev so high a different style of driving is required to the ■■■■■■■ ,I never thought they pulled like they do 1600 rpm and they have much much more left to give .
I preferred the rolls/Perkins engine in my 4380 foden to the cat 430 I had in my alpha and much more than the M11’s we had in a couple of other alpha’s we had I never took to the ■■■■■■■■■ , the merc v6 460 was an absolutely beautiful engine ,sound and power!
also worthy of a mention was mercs 1735 14l v8 . they got the best out of that lump by developing the use of flat top torque curve . had one from brand new ,picked it up at their Stuttgart factory . sounded brill.spent two days on the drivers induction course due to the eps . mind you don’t think that helped that guy who crashed one into the pizza house , they said due to faulty eps box