Just getting loaded in Doncaster now and the kid on the forklift been telling me how the company have stabbed him in the back. He was on agency working for them and they offered him a full time job so he finished on the agency only to be told then a couple of week later he was going onto a zero hours contract. He then finds out off a kid who works there that in a few week his job was finished anyway as they’re getting an Estonian kid in to do the forklift and they hadn’t even told this lad this yet 
He told me he was on 10 hour days, 5 days a week for £1500. There are 11 Estonians who work here and they must do 12-13 hour days, 6 days a week and they get £800 He says they generally stay for 3 month then go back and they get some more in for cheap labour.
The Estonians live in 2 houses 6 in one and 5 in another and they are now even complaining about having to do 12-13 hour shifts 6 times a week.
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great Britain 
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
Just getting loaded in Doncaster now and the kid on the forklift been telling me how the company have stabbed him in the back. He was on agency working for them and they offered him a full time job so he finished on the agency only to be told then a couple of week later he was going onto a zero hours contract. He then finds out off a kid who works there that in a few week his job was finished anyway as they’re getting an Estonian kid in to do the forklift and they hadn’t even told this lad this yet
He told me he was on 10 hour days, 5 days a week for £1500. There are 11 Estonians who work here and they must do 12-13 hour days, 6 days a week and they get £800
The Estonians live in 2 houses 6 in one and 5 in another and they are now even complaining about having to do 12-13 hour shifts 6 times a week.
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great Britain
you sure that’s right £1500 a week £6k a month £72k a year 
nick2008:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
Just getting loaded in Doncaster now and the kid on the forklift been telling me how the company have stabbed him in the back. He was on agency working for them and they offered him a full time job so he finished on the agency only to be told then a couple of week later he was going onto a zero hours contract. He then finds out off a kid who works there that in a few week his job was finished anyway as they’re getting an Estonian kid in to do the forklift and they hadn’t even told this lad this yet
He told me he was on 10 hour days, 5 days a week for £1500. There are 11 Estonians who work here and they must do 12-13 hour days, 6 days a week and they get £800
The Estonians live in 2 houses 6 in one and 5 in another and they are now even complaining about having to do 12-13 hour shifts 6 times a week.
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great Britainyou sure that’s right £1500 a week £6k a month £72k a year
Haha good spot mate I ment a month
Don’t get me wrong but this is not news. Standby for even more of the same but on less money after the election. Vote wisely!
Zero hr contracts want banning simple as that.
Then the next government wants to actually put in to practise “british jobs for british workers” and get some lazy Brits off the dole doing the jobs these foreigners are doing.
Boils my urine this. 
yorkshire terrier:
Zero hr contracts want banning simple as that.
Then the next government wants to actually put in to practise “british jobs for british workers” and get some lazy Brits off the dole doing the jobs these foreigners are doing.
Boils my urine this.
Could they do that? If you had a daughter living say in Liverpool would you want her picking sprouts in Boston then sleeping 6 to a room with strangers?
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
nick2008:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
Just getting loaded in Doncaster now and the kid on the forklift been telling me how the company have stabbed him in the back. He was on agency working for them and they offered him a full time job so he finished on the agency only to be told then a couple of week later he was going onto a zero hours contract. He then finds out off a kid who works there that in a few week his job was finished anyway as they’re getting an Estonian kid in to do the forklift and they hadn’t even told this lad this yet
He told me he was on 10 hour days, 5 days a week for £1500. There are 11 Estonians who work here and they must do 12-13 hour days, 6 days a week and they get £800
The Estonians live in 2 houses 6 in one and 5 in another and they are now even complaining about having to do 12-13 hour shifts 6 times a week.
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great Britainyou sure that’s right £1500 a week £6k a month £72k a year
Haha good spot mate I ment a month
That works out slighlty below minimum wage at around £2.77 per hour for the estonians!!, doesnt matter what country they are from not legal!!
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great Britain
Most of the new jobs created weren’t zero hours though. And some of us actually like our zero hours contracts.
yorkshire terrier:
Zero hr contracts want banning simple as that.
NO THEY BLOODY WELL DON’T. I do not want fixed hours. I do not want to have to work when I don’t. If my wife wasn’t on zero hours she’d have lost her job this week as she’s taken 3 weeks off to deal with her dad going into hospital for terminal cancer and then dying. She’ll be taking next week off as well. Being on zero hours she just told them she wasn’t going in. She regularly tells them she’s not working when she wants a long weekend.
he is on £7.50 an hour roughly the Estonians on £4 I doubt it.
and why not check the contract etc before leaving the agency?
agree that zero hours are a joke and should be a minimum of 16.
Conor:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great BritainMost of the new jobs created weren’t zero hours though. And some of us actually like our zero hours contracts.
yorkshire terrier:
Zero hr contracts want banning simple as that.NO THEY BLOODY WELL DON’T. I do not want fixed hours. I do not want to have to work when I don’t. If my wife wasn’t on zero hours she’d have lost her job this week as she’s taken 3 weeks off to deal with her dad going into hospital for terminal cancer and then dying. She’ll be taking next week off as well. Being on zero hours she just told them she wasn’t going in. She regularly tells them she’s not working when she wants a long weekend.
I was looking at the notice board in b&q worksop the other day,and their t+c’s are nothing like that.
You have to give notice if you are unavailable…and even then it may be refused…ditto holidays.
There was then something about "dropping down the priority order"for people who turned down shifts…which is a thinnly veiled threat imo.
So basically it’s jump when we click our fingers…or ■■■■ off.
Interestingly…about 75% of the people on both shifts where eastern european.
■■■■■■■ disgrace
Imagine having had no work for a few days and then someone rings you up and tells you they want you “on shift”…that night.
Of course,the flip flops will do it…and any natives that wont stand for it are classed as lazy.
commonrail:
Conor:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great BritainMost of the new jobs created weren’t zero hours though. And some of us actually like our zero hours contracts.
yorkshire terrier:
Zero hr contracts want banning simple as that.NO THEY BLOODY WELL DON’T. I do not want fixed hours. I do not want to have to work when I don’t. If my wife wasn’t on zero hours she’d have lost her job this week as she’s taken 3 weeks off to deal with her dad going into hospital for terminal cancer and then dying. She’ll be taking next week off as well. Being on zero hours she just told them she wasn’t going in. She regularly tells them she’s not working when she wants a long weekend.
I was looking at the notice board in b&q worksop the other day,and their t+c’s are nothing like that.
You have to give notice if you are unavailable…and even then it may be refused…ditto holidays.
There was then something about "dropping down the priority order"for people who turned down shifts…which is a thinnly veiled threat imo.
So basically it’s jump when we click our fingers…or [zb] off.
Interestingly…about 75% of the people on both shifts where eastern european.
[zb] disgrace
This is my experience too.
Although, the only 2 0hr contracts I’ve done were Roadways and Plevin and both understood when I said “I’m off these days” but both told me to put a holiday form in??
I consider myself VERY lucky to have not had a day out of work since I left school in 1964. I’m retired now,and realise the whole job situation has changed and to be honest I have not really looked into what a " zero hours contract " is. It would seem you can tell your employer that you fancy a long weekend you wont be in on Monday and oh bye the way, I’m going out on the ■■■■ Tuesday night so I won’t be in Wednesday either! My question is, does this work the other way round ? Can your employer tell you he is having your lorry serviced on Monday,so don’t bother coming in and oh bye the way,your run for Wednesday is off but make sure you are in Tuesday ?
It seems to me this is no contract at all, and if it is,it is heavily weighted in favour of the employer. After all the employer can find a driver at short notice,agency etc, but I would have thought it not so easy for the driver to find a days wage.
I may be entirely wrong on this,but how long before we have the old situation of " all those drivers who want a days work turn up at the yard ( stay at home if you don’t ),and the boss comes out,picks who can work that day and tells the rest to bugger off ?
Regards. John.
Connor … I want to nominate you as MEP, Coz you got the issue by the BLZ 
Conor:
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
It makes you laugh when the ConDems say jobs are at their highest for years yet don’t tell you that most of them are zero hours contracts where the employee has no idea how many hours work they’ll get from one week to the next. Welcome to modern day Great BritainMost of the new jobs created weren’t zero hours though. And some of us actually like our zero hours contracts.
yorkshire terrier:
Zero hr contracts want banning simple as that.NO THEY BLOODY WELL DON’T. I do not want fixed hours. I do not want to have to work when I don’t. If my wife wasn’t on zero hours she’d have lost her job this week as she’s taken 3 weeks off to deal with her dad going into hospital for terminal cancer and then dying. She’ll be taking next week off as well. Being on zero hours she just told them she wasn’t going in. She regularly tells them she’s not working when she wants a long weekend.
Ok so they suit you,but in the past blokes who wanted to work when they wanted did agency work and knew where they stood.
Now firms are expecting folk to commit to them on these zero hr contracts…
Condolences to your wife as well,
Im glad in a previous job they gave us 24hr a week minimum in our contracts. It never mattered as we did 60-80 most of the time but a customer of ours went out of business and they were about 60% of our work so suddenly we were all on 24hr weeks. If we had been on zero contracts that would have meant we were screwed. That company went under anyway after a few months but i had got a new job by then but atleast with 24hr pay i wasn’t signing on the dole whilst getting a new job.
EDIT: We had some foreign guys working and living on site, they were paid minimum wage and lived 6-8 people to a caravan which they paid our company £25 a week each for ha
old 67:
I consider myself VERY lucky to have not had a day out of work since I left school in 1964. I’m retired now,and realise the whole job situation has changed and to be honest I have not really looked into what a " zero hours contract " is. It would seem you can tell your employer that you fancy a long weekend you wont be in on Monday and oh bye the way, I’m going out on the ■■■■ Tuesday night so I won’t be in Wednesday either! My question is, does this work the other way round ? Can your employer tell you he is having your lorry serviced on Monday,so don’t bother coming in and oh bye the way,your run for Wednesday is off but make sure you are in Tuesday ?
It seems to me this is no contract at all, and if it is,it is heavily weighted in favour of the employer. After all the employer can find a driver at short notice,agency etc, but I would have thought it not so easy for the driver to find a days wage.
I may be entirely wrong on this,but how long before we have the old situation of " all those drivers who want a days work turn up at the yard ( stay at home if you don’t ),and the boss comes out,picks who can work that day and tells the rest to bugger off ?
Regards. John.
Bang on mate - although most employers only want it in the way described by yourself in BOLD and not the other way
old 67:
I consider myself VERY lucky to have not had a day out of work since I left school in 1964. I’m retired now,and realise the whole job situation has changed and to be honest I have not really looked into what a " zero hours contract " is. It would seem you can tell your employer that you fancy a long weekend you wont be in on Monday and oh bye the way, I’m going out on the ■■■■ Tuesday night so I won’t be in Wednesday either! My question is, does this work the other way round ? Can your employer tell you he is having your lorry serviced on Monday,so don’t bother coming in and oh bye the way,your run for Wednesday is off but make sure you are in Tuesday ?
It seems to me this is no contract at all, and if it is,it is heavily weighted in favour of the employer. After all the employer can find a driver at short notice,agency etc, but I would have thought it not so easy for the driver to find a days wage.
I may be entirely wrong on this,but how long before we have the old situation of " all those drivers who want a days work turn up at the yard ( stay at home if you don’t ),and the boss comes out,picks who can work that day and tells the rest to bugger off ?
Regards. John.
Sadly I cannot argue the point with any of your post. Down we go at a rapid rates of knots.
Got the ultimate answer… Let’s all go to Oz and flood them with our talented truck skills 
Zero hour contracts are going to be the death of the British worker soon. They don’t even need to fire you to get someone else in, on less money to do your job.