If your wages are made up of a basic +10% of what the truck makes, what can you expect that 10% to be?
It’s on multidrop fridge work.
As a rule I’d say the truck would make between 2000 grand n 3000
So if you took an avg I’d say 2 n half grand so yr be on 250 bonus however I’d be v sceptible bt takin a job like Tht you chase all week long hours then truck goes wrong n you lose half a day n yer bonus is out the window
it’ll be on what the truck makes PROFIT so don’t hold out for much 
last driving job I had in the UK before emigrating was a flat wage + nights out and 8% of the turnover tramping and we had every rate for every job, this was very early 90’s and our trucks averaged 2500-3000 a week back then, bet it hasn’t changed much though, rates wise all these years later, all uk work.
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When I first started driving class 1’s, back in the early 90’s, just to get the experience, I worked for my Brother in Law/owner driver, he also taught me how to drive 'em. I seem to remember that he used to pay me 10% of what the vehicle earnt, (no basic) sometimes as little as £30 a day, once I did 15 hours on a Sunday for £42. I didn’t stay with him for long after a few long Sundays sitting in RDC’s while Wincanton drivers were boasting about their hourly rate & I was on a set rate (never did less than 12 hours !)
The only reason I did it, was for the experience, but it just goes to show how Family will Screw you if you are not careful ! (I thought that once I got my ticket, the rates would go up a bit- never did)
Thanks for the info, if I base it on earning £40 a day, I’m better off where I am at the minute.
Hiya the 10% earning was thrown out by the unions years ago saying it made drivers race around getting loads.
i was on the %age thing in the 70/80s, things was better as there was plenty of work for construction and good
work from the docks (before container,s)this pay system made you get up and go. i was young and the job was fun.
there was so much more industry in the uk. it might be the same now but with everything in curtain sider,s
you never know whats been moved around. saying that container,s play a big roll nowadays
John
How do you know what the truck makes? Somehow I can’t see them letting you see the books.
Well they’d have to tell you what each job is worth as that’s the contract.
Just trying to weigh up if it’s worth doing or not.
One of their drivers who told me about the job said he earns between £650-£800 take home a week depend if he does 5/6 days including his night out money, I just can’t see it myself.
I was recently offered £400 a week or 22% of the trucks earnings, I asked about rates and the guy said he doesn’t tell us he just pays us the amount but it’s right yet if I take home 600 and that is 22% it’s not hard to work out what the truck made!
I told my boss I’d been offered a job elsewhere and we had a chat and I decided to stay where I am and I’m much happier now.
Grass isn’t always greener.
Hiya… the boss dosn’t tell you the rate as some drivers go shouting their mouth off to other drivers what
the rate is. this makes it easy for a competitive under cutting of rates.
i know of a company who give two pallets away to another haulier to deliver.the company who
delivered the load worked out the rate with the 10% which had been deducted, this haulier compiled
a full list of rates to area,s to undercut and try for the contract(which was big) the manufacturer said
this haulier was never to carry their good again, also the fist contractor was never to give any work away
however big or small amount…lesson over
John
I’m paid a straight 20% of what the lorry makes in a week!
My first lorry job paid 25% of what the lorry earned, right old heaps of motors but our money worked out nearly twice the earnings of the all flash no cash crews, they were just getting going then.
Total honesty by all parties needed, and as with all piece and bonus work, the allocators can make or break the job for you, right work very lucrative, wrong work dismal hours and poor pay to boot.
Who gets paid what when one driver loads the vehicle and another drives and delivers or vice versa.
I’d be wary, how are you going to know the rates being paid.
Ten percent profit? Is your basic alone decent? If so fair play? I’d smell a rat. If each lorry were making decent profit he/she would bank the nice extra. If it was a bit tight can see how it’s tempting to offer profit share.
Freight Dog:
Ten percent profit? Is your basic alone decent? If so fair play? I’d smell a rat. If each lorry were making decent profit he/she would bank the nice extra. If it was a bit tight can see how it’s tempting to offer profit share.
It’s not 10% profit, it’s 10% of what the truck earns and the basic rate is above minimum wage based on a 40/48 hour week. Holiday pay is £80 a day which is less than I get now but you get an extra week.
I know what I’m going to do when he rings, I’ve no doubt you can earn good money if you crack on and have no issues, there is also the chance of earning ■■■■ money
I thought this sort of thing had been outlawed because it tempts the driver to ‘push the boundaries’ of the law 
ROG:
I thought this sort of thing had been outlawed because it tempts the driver to ‘push the boundaries’ of the law
Surely not… 
Back in the 60s, 70s & 80s it was considered normal to pay bulk tipper drivers 17% of gross vehicle earnings, no basic. In all my years, I never found one employer who was willing to tell the driver what the vehicle’s earnings were and my wages never varied by more than about a fiver, no matter if I worked flat-out all week or was broken down for a couple of days. I did take it into my head to query my wages on a couple of occasions but was told, “If you don’t trust me, go & work elsewhere”.
Which I eventually did!
Rog is absolutely correct, this practice was outlawed years ago but no-one is actually going to police it. Not until an over-tired driver kills someone, then there is a huge outcry in the trade press before it all gets forgotten & the status quo is resumed.