Being " flashed " in

Rob K:

newmercman:
a little flash to say ‘go on mate, in you come, have a good one’ it’s just like saying please or thank you or holding a door open for somebody.

NO.

It’s not about that at all and you know it. The only thing behind all this modern day flashing is for posers like attention-■■■■■-Billman & co. to show off how bright their 3,281 spot lights are, nothing to do with courtesy whatsoever otherwise they wouldn’t have just held you out in lane 2 for the past 25 miles as you tried to overtake them. :unamused:

MORE ATTENTION FROM ROB K, HOW LUCKY AM I!!!

And yr still a muppet.

MR VAIN:

Rob K:

newmercman:
a little flash to say ‘go on mate, in you come, have a good one’ it’s just like saying please or thank you or holding a door open for somebody.

NO.

It’s not about that at all and you know it. The only thing behind all this modern day flashing is for posers like attention-■■■■■-Billman & co. to show off how bright their 3,281 spot lights are, nothing to do with courtesy whatsoever otherwise they wouldn’t have just held you out in lane 2 for the past 25 miles as you tried to overtake them. :unamused:

MORE ATTENTION FROM ROB K, HOW LUCKY AM I!!!

And yr still a muppet.

I can’t even spell the noise that came out of my nose at the “yr still a muppet” bit

just so that you all know if its me.
If I am passing you and you flash me in, I give two left flashes, a pause then one more left flash… “thank you”
If you are passing me I give two main beam flashes of about 1 second each WHEN you are a safe distance in front.
If you pull in before the safe distance the two flashes DO NOT MEAN “you are welcome”!!!
They mean “ar***ole”
Hope this is clear :smiley:

Rob K:

newmercman:
a little flash to say ‘go on mate, in you come, have a good one’ it’s just like saying please or thank you or holding a door open for somebody.

NO.

It’s not about that at all and you know it. The only thing behind all this modern day flashing is for posers like attention-■■■■■-Billman & co. to show off how bright their 3,281 spot lights are, nothing to do with courtesy whatsoever otherwise they wouldn’t have just held you out in lane 2 for the past 25 miles as you tried to overtake them. :unamused:

MODERN DAY :confused: :laughing: :confused: :laughing: :angry:
This has been going on for years :exclamation: :exclamation: And as previous posts A sign of curtousy to, as I have said before “”“”“FELLOW “””“” drivers

Easy answer there are to many ars****es in the job now. The ■■■■ that doesnt flash you in is the same one who holds you out in lane two when your trying to get passed(and the slower vehicle should ease off to let the passing vehicle in) and is the same one who comes up a slip for you to move out to let him join the carriageway then procedes to hold you out there again or even better comes up the inside of you. The camraderie has totally gone from the industry because there are very few real drivers left. Like someone said earlier there are the in the blood drivers and there are the idiots who couldnt do anything else so decided to become a lorry driver. I first noticed it when the pits and steelworks closed our industry became full of idiots who knew nothing about the job it was just a job to them. Unfortunately the trend continues

scotslad:
Easy answer there are to many ars****es in the job now. The [zb] that doesnt flash you in is the same one who holds you out in lane two when your trying to get passed(and the slower vehicle should ease off to let the passing vehicle in) and is the same one who comes up a slip for you to move out to let him join the carriageway then procedes to hold you out there again or even better comes up the inside of you. The camraderie has totally gone from the industry because there are very few real drivers left. Like someone said earlier there are the in the blood drivers and there are the idiots who couldnt do anything else so decided to become a lorry driver. I first noticed it when the pits and steelworks closed our industry became full of idiots who knew nothing about the job it was just a job to them. Unfortunately the trend continues

Well said that man, or As I tend to call em, car drivers with truck licences.

The [zb] that doesnt flash you in is the same one who holds you out in lane two when your trying to get passed

No it isn’t. As I previously stated, I never flash anybody in, ever. Out, yes, but never in. I always, without exception, slow for a lorry in lane two if it looks as if he is coming past at a slow rate.

I pose an example.

You’re driving. A truck decides to overtake you. It pulls out and within ten or twenty seconds it is obvious it is going to take him miles to get past.

You A) Ease off the accelerator, or cancel the cruise control, knock your speed down to 50mph, let him pass, but do not flash him in.

Or B) You carry on for miles without knocking your speed down and then flash him in.

Who has shown true courtesy out of those two scenarios?

Forget the argument of slowing down and flashing him in, but choose from the two. Who has shown true courtesy? Who has shown true professionalism in accordance to the highway code? The highway code says nothing about giving a specific signal to other drivers about there being a safe enough distance to move in but it does state that if an overtaking vehicle is struggling to pass, then slow to facilitate it.

Also, if A, does the driver recognise you slowed for him by giving an appreciative flick of the indicators to say thank you? No. Not that it should be expected anyway.

I’m not claiming to be self righteous. I’m just irritated by the number of people who throw around this ridiculous phrase of “real driver”.
One could be superb at his job, always sticking to road laws such as speed limits, weight limits and such. One could have experience with every type of load and configuration. One could be diplomatic with customers and never have to take shunts reversing. One could navigate well and keeep their stress levels down. One could leave sufficient gaps to allow for the vehicle in front making an emergancy stop, not driving two millimetres from the Micra’s bumper through roadworks. One may know the length of his trailer too. However, this same person may not particularly agree with the unofficial protocol of flashing. Does that make him an unreal driver? Hardly.

Additionaly, you have no idea of the state of mind of the driver who has failed to flash you. He may have only half hour previously received a phonecall from his wife and been told she is divorcing him. He may have found out two days ago that his child has leukemia. He may be suffering from depression which is a serious and deep complaint where things that seem insignificant are not top of his agenda. He may be in the middle of a hands free phonecall with his boss who is giving him some instructions. Who knows? He is not necessarily to be judged for it.

Koop:
I only “flash in” if the vehicle needs to be flashed in, not if its doing warp factor 7, and simply because i don’t want the other vehicle 2 metres in front of my screen!! I wont flash if said vehicle is asking to be flashed…IE sticks indicator on whilst it is passing. :imp:

Also…i don’t expect to flashed in when I’m 2 inches passed you, i know how long i am! I’ll come in when i think its safe enough.

I think you are a complete arse, the job is hard enough, without sausage jockeys like you…

bergen:

Koop:
I only “flash in” if the vehicle needs to be flashed in, not if its doing warp factor 7, and simply because i don’t want the other vehicle 2 metres in front of my screen!! I wont flash if said vehicle is asking to be flashed…IE sticks indicator on whilst it is passing. :imp:

Also…i don’t expect to flashed in when I’m 2 inches passed you, i know how long i am! I’ll come in when i think its safe enough.

I think you are a complete arse, the job is hard enough, without sausage jockeys like you…

When did this topic start becoming personal■■? c’mon guy’s, attack the post not the person or the mods will just lock the topic, end of. And we wont be able to discuss it any further.

and that my que to leave…Coat, hat and the taxi is already waiting.

James
:smiley:

ezydriver:
Additionaly, you have no idea of the state of mind of the driver who has failed to flash you. He may have only half hour previously received a phonecall from his wife and been told she is divorcing him. He may have found out two days ago that his child has leukemia. He may be suffering from depression which is a serious and deep complaint where things that seem insignificant are not top of his agenda. He may be in the middle of a hands free phonecall with his boss who is giving him some instructions. Who knows? He is not necessarily to be judged for it.

WOW :exclamation: :exclamation: - I think that is the first post I’ve read that has considered another drivers state of mind :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: - I’m very impressed.

bergen:

Koop:
I only “flash in” if the vehicle needs to be flashed in, not if its doing warp factor 7, and simply because i don’t want the other vehicle 2 metres in front of my screen!! I wont flash if said vehicle is asking to be flashed…IE sticks indicator on whilst it is passing. :imp:

Also…i don’t expect to flashed in when I’m 2 inches passed you, i know how long i am! I’ll come in when i think its safe enough.

I think you are a complete arse, the job is hard enough, without sausage jockeys like you…

i’m a sausage jockey too! I thought koop summed it up spot on.