Harry Monk:
It’s for the defence to prove that there was no possibility of the driver driving the vehicle
Surely it’s a can of worms for motor home users. 
Martin:
I often used to question why truckstops have bars, I have had many nights out in Junction 29 back in the days when they had “entertainment” and seen many drivers maybe a little over the limit when heading back to the cab to sleep it off, but 8 hours or more later they were well under the limit and very capable of driving safely. Clearly the police had no concerns with trucks leaving the next morning as I never saw any driver being checked.
It’s like everything else in this country mate, if there’s a chance of something being abused by the irresponsible and the idiots, …why police it, just blanket ban it, much easier,.and less work for them, and to hell with those who can and do things responsibly.
shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just saying
Ok a Police officer comes along because of a call from dog walker,speaks to driver, ascertains the driver is parked up for the night, Tacho and paperwork confirms his position with no intention to drive.
No evidence of being drunk albeit alcohol has been consumed.
Police officer says all is well and goes about his business. no offences committed.
The truck driver is no different from someone parking their campervan outside a pub and going for a couple of pints and a meal before retiring to bed for the night.
There may be an issue the following morning if said Police officer thinks the driver may be having a shed full of beer during the course of the night, but that’s another story.
Murrayminor:
shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just sayingOk a Police officer comes along because of a call from dog walker,speaks to driver, ascertains the driver is parked up for the night, Tacho and paperwork confirms his position with no intention to drive.
No evidence of being drunk albeit alcohol has been consumed.Police officer says all is well and goes about his business. no offences committed.
The truck driver is no different from someone parking their campervan outside a pub and going for a couple of pints and a meal before retiring to bed for the night.
There may be an issue the following morning if said Police officer thinks the driver may be having a shed full of beer during the course of the night, but that’s another story.
Or the bloke who got home on Friday and shared a bottle of wine with his wife, then had to run a trailer into the dock on Saturday morning, should he flog himself with wet twigs?
So if you were sat in your living room having a few cans, your car parked outside just a couple of meters away, keys in pocket - how is that different? Still a vehicle that you parked there. You’ve got the keys for it.
granddaddylow:
So if you were sat in your living room having a few cans, your car parked outside just a couple of meters away, keys in pocket - how is that different? Still a vehicle that you parked there. You’ve got the keys for it.
You won’t get nicked for drunk driving if you’re in the pub and over the limit with car keys in your pocket.
You probably will get nicked if you attempt to then use the keys to unlock the door or you’re found sitting in the motor in the pub car park with the keys.
Murrayminor:
shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just sayingOk a Police officer comes along because of a call from dog walker,speaks to driver, ascertains the driver is parked up for the night, Tacho and paperwork confirms his position with no intention to drive.
No evidence of being drunk albeit alcohol has been consumed.Police officer says all is well and goes about his business. no offences committed.
The truck driver is no different from someone parking their campervan outside a pub and going for a couple of pints and a meal before retiring to bed for the night.
There may be an issue the following morning if said Police officer thinks the driver may be having a shed full of beer during the course of the night, but that’s another story.
There’s a difference between ‘alcohol being consumed’ v consumed and over the drink drive limit.
The latter is a can of worms mixed with being found ‘in charge of a vehicle’ and then having to argue not in charge of the vehicle.
The extra pint just ain’t worth it unless you’re absolutely sure that you can prove not in charge to the law’s satisfaction.Even then is it still worth it.
Drunk in charge…keys in your possessionn and ‘physical’ possession of the vehicle…ie being in it.
Campervans and alcohol are potentially open to drunk in charge and a snotty copper could potentially try it on…but it’s unlikely
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Three pages in and not a mention of the fisherman who drove onto private property to be told he could’nt go any further. It was a place where the public had access, not a public place, not private as it was public! 
Wheel Nut:
Murrayminor:
shullbit:
Technically ‘‘drunk in charge of a motor vehicle’’…just sayingOk a Police officer comes along because of a call from dog walker,speaks to driver, ascertains the driver is parked up for the night, Tacho and paperwork confirms his position with no intention to drive.
No evidence of being drunk albeit alcohol has been consumed.Police officer says all is well and goes about his business. no offences committed.
The truck driver is no different from someone parking their campervan outside a pub and going for a couple of pints and a meal before retiring to bed for the night.
There may be an issue the following morning if said Police officer thinks the driver may be having a shed full of beer during the course of the night, but that’s another story.
Or the bloke who got home on Friday and shared a bottle of wine with his wife, then had to run a trailer into the dock on Saturday morning, should he flog himself with wet twigs?
No, not at all, as long as the alcohol has left his system then all is well.
No copper would arrest for this,as 1. 2 cans is not 2 pints,2.The rest period on the tacho would cover the driver unless he drank a lot more.
Good god we have some petty people on here 
Did the idiot report you pal?
Wheel Nut:
Three pages in and not a mention of the fisherman who drove onto private property to be told he could’nt go any further. It was a place where the public had access, not a public place, not private as it was public!
1st question, what breakfast cereal had he eaten.?
2nd question what socks was he wearing?
3rd question was he going to drink whilst fishing, and had he driven their…
Wheel Nut:
Three pages in and not a mention of the fisherman who drove onto private property to be told he could’nt go any further. It was a place where the public had access, not a public place, not private as it was public!
1st question, what breakfast cereal had he eaten.?
2nd question what socks was he wearing?
3rd question was he going to drink whilst fishing, and had he driven their…
Beetlejuice:
No copper would arrest for this,as 1. 2 cans is not 2 pints,2.The rest period on the tacho would cover the driver unless he drank a lot more.
Realistically it’s about proof of rest period and that the level is low enough to be clear by the end of it.
Get either or both of those wrong and it’s goodbye licence and job.
seen near a vehicle and drinking THESE DAYS youre the classic drink driver. its like a bloke doin a Chalkey White impression out on the sreet suddenly hes a real racist and lets call plod cos you wont change unless stopped in court . Might be safer to tip the beer into a flask first? Reminds me a few yrs back i was pulling away in my van and crunched the gears next thing i got pulled.it was a lunchtime and copper had assumed id had a few as i lurched away. We had a weird conver as the breathalyser was negative i told him id taken to drinking ice cold slush drinks , “what,kiddies drinks?” yeh i abso love them and then i moved on to talking about youth crime and he defo wished he hadnt stopped me
Beetlejuice:
No copper would arrest for this,as 1. 2 cans is not 2 pints,2.The rest period on the tacho would cover the driver unless he drank a lot more.
Good god we have some petty people on hereDid the idiot report you pal?
No idea mate. No one has said anything to me other than places to go and things to do. Been out all week.
I will be back later this afternoon and will find out. Even if it was reported it wouldnt be a problem. My boss has seen us having a drink if we are parked up in a company yard at another site. He came over and had one with us so cant say anything.
worldsbestdriver:
Beetlejuice:
No copper would arrest for this,as 1. 2 cans is not 2 pints,2.The rest period on the tacho would cover the driver unless he drank a lot more.
Good god we have some petty people on hereDid the idiot report you pal?
No idea mate. No one has said anything to me other than places to go and things to do. Been out all week.
I will be back later this afternoon and will find out. Even if it was reported it wouldnt be a problem. My boss has seen us having a drink if we are parked up in a company yard at another site. He came over and had one with us so cant say anything.
The boss having a beer in a company yard with the drivers!!
Doesn’t say much about the company you work for!!
Murrayminor:
worldsbestdriver:
Beetlejuice:
No copper would arrest for this,as 1. 2 cans is not 2 pints,2.The rest period on the tacho would cover the driver unless he drank a lot more.
Good god we have some petty people on hereDid the idiot report you pal?
No idea mate. No one has said anything to me other than places to go and things to do. Been out all week.
I will be back later this afternoon and will find out. Even if it was reported it wouldnt be a problem. My boss has seen us having a drink if we are parked up in a company yard at another site. He came over and had one with us so cant say anything.
The boss having a beer in a company yard with the drivers!!
Doesn’t say much about the company you work for!!
Love the negative assumptions here, whilst knowing f.all about the situation.
So why is that exactly??
Are you assuming his boss is going to drive?
Maybe he lives on site, maybe he gets picked up by his Mrs, who knows?..who cares? 
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Maybe he thinks a can of beer is ok to drive after …as it is despite what the alarmists, dramatists, and statisticians may tell you,… I don’t do it myself, as I ain’t as dim as the o/p to lay myself wide open to assumptions.by busybody knob heads… but that is neither here nor there.
A boss I used to work for used to take us round to the local pub for a meal and a beer, we were all parked in the yard for 11 hours, he got picked up by his Mrs, no dramas, no fluffy kittens harmed.
Murrayminor:
The boss having a beer in a company yard with the drivers!!
Doesn’t say much about the company you work for!!
It’s the boss of a haulage Co we’re talking about, not the bleeding Pope! Unfortunately your response speaks volumes.
This thread has gone the way of many lately, to many dogooding numbtys, talking ■■■. So I will just leave this here… 
