By the time I read all that Garbage my head was spinningand my teeth were itching!!! I bet that abortion couldn’t pull the skin off of a rice pudding!!! Anyway I heard you had gone to live on the “dark side of the moon” Carryfast? But we will allow you back onto the thread as we have just got rid of a b****r t**t than you ever were!!! The new slogan now is “come back “Carryfast” all is forgiven” providing of course you quit slavering about DDs and let us educate you about “proper motors” OK! Cheers Bewick.
Why no Bedford TM 's in the Bewick fleet? I note that WA Glendinning had one.
IMHO “George” I quickly realised that above 16 ton gvw,Fords and Bedfords were out of their depth and the parameters applied to the mass production of smaller vehicles were not ,in any way, relevant to the heavy commercial sectors.The nearest I ever got at Bewick Transport to lowering our established standards was to allow a couple of Iveco demos and the odd a.n.other of similar spec into the fleet(with no possibility of us ever weakening our resolve not to purchase any) The Fords/Bedfords were not just up to the demands of an intensive maximum weight operation similar to ours.I rest my case! Dennis.
Yet you ran underpowered GUY’s, Seddons and Seddon Atkinsons!
What you on about “marra” there was nothing wrong with the Gardner 180LXB powered motors you quote, either at 30.5 or 32 tons GVW,they were economical and reliable which were the two main ingredients a haulier looked for! An added bonus was such chassis were always marketable secondhand! Which is more than could be claimed for the heavy Bedfords,Fords and Ivecos! Dennis.
By the time I read all that Garbage my head was spinningand my teeth were itching!!! I bet that abortion couldn’t pull the skin off of a rice pudding!!! Anyway I heard you had gone to live on the “dark side of the moon” Carryfast? But we will allow you back onto the thread as we have just got rid of a b****r t**t than you ever were!!! The new slogan now is “come back “Carryfast” all is forgiven” providing of course you quit slavering about DDs and let us educate you about “proper motors” OK! Cheers Bewick.
Why no Bedford TM 's in the Bewick fleet? I note that WA Glendinning had one.
IMHO “George” I quickly realised that above 16 ton gvw,Fords and Bedfords were out of their depth and the parameters applied to the mass production of smaller vehicles were not ,in any way, relevant to the heavy commercial sectors.The nearest I ever got at Bewick Transport to lowering our established standards was to allow a couple of Iveco demos and the odd a.n.other of similar spec into the fleet(with no possibility of us ever weakening our resolve not to purchase any) The Fords/Bedfords were not just up to the demands of an intensive maximum weight operation similar to ours.I rest my case! Dennis.
Yet you ran underpowered GUY’s, Seddons and Seddon Atkinsons!
What you on about “marra” there was nothing wrong with the Gardner 180LXB powered motors you quote, either at 30.5 or 32 tons GVW,they were economical and reliable which were the two main ingredients a haulier looked for! An added bonus was such chassis were always marketable secondhand! Which is more than could be claimed for the heavy Bedfords,Fords and Ivecos! Dennis.
I for once agree with you Dennis.I always thought of Bedford,Ford,BMC and Seddon as a cheaper lorry,whereas the likes of Foden, Atkinson,ERF and Leyland had better made heavy motors along with AEC and so forth,before BL came along.
Cheers Dave
Seddon Atkinson made the best wagon just before they packed up the “Strato” 410 ■■■■■■■ twin splitter box and DAF space cab was just about perfect plenty of room in the cab plenty of power and the magnificent twin splitter gear box with the change being so quick it was like driving something with a far bigger engine as they usually had a slow synchromesh box in them.
cheers Johnnie
By the time I read all that Garbage my head was spinningand my teeth were itching!!! I bet that abortion couldn’t pull the skin off of a rice pudding!!! Anyway I heard you had gone to live on the “dark side of the moon” Carryfast? But we will allow you back onto the thread as we have just got rid of a b****r t**t than you ever were!!! The new slogan now is “come back “Carryfast” all is forgiven” providing of course you quit slavering about DDs and let us educate you about “proper motors” OK! Cheers Bewick.
Why no Bedford TM 's in the Bewick fleet? I note that WA Glendinning had one.
IMHO “George” I quickly realised that above 16 ton gvw,Fords and Bedfords were out of their depth and the parameters applied to the mass production of smaller vehicles were not ,in any way, relevant to the heavy commercial sectors.The nearest I ever got at Bewick Transport to lowering our established standards was to allow a couple of Iveco demos and the odd a.n.other of similar spec into the fleet(with no possibility of us ever weakening our resolve not to purchase any) The Fords/Bedfords were not just up to the demands of an intensive maximum weight operation similar to ours.I rest my case! Dennis.
Yet you ran underpowered GUY’s, Seddons and Seddon Atkinsons!
What you on about “marra” there was nothing wrong with the Gardner 180LXB powered motors you quote, either at 30.5 or 32 tons GVW,they were economical and reliable which were the two main ingredients a haulier looked for! An added bonus was such chassis were always marketable secondhand! Which is more than could be claimed for the heavy Bedfords,Fords and Ivecos! Dennis.
Depends which ‘market’ that you’re referring to.The market for both types would have remained the same new or used in the case of Gardner powered Atkis etc their market could only have been guvnors looking for used guvnors wagons and the market for premium spec,big power,trucks would have been the same type as the one that they were sold into when new.
The question is why did’nt that idea,of guvnors wagons,work long term for Brit manufacturers when we’ve seen that even your own fleet went over to the more premium spec bigger power ideas of a Scandinavian manufacturer although it’s my bet that the top spec V8 would’nt have been on your list unlike many other fleets and smaller operators found to be an advantage in the long term .
But it’s an interesting discussion that probably forms the basis/beginning of the Brit manufacturers’ demise.
Suedehead:
More like “assembled the best wagon” before their demise?
Pegaso cab The only thing S/A on them was the badge . . .wasnt it ?
I think they only assembled wagons after the merger as everything was bought in but I thought it was the DAF cab that they both used with their own front grills fitted on and I still reckon it was the best “British” wagon. It did have a big “A” on though
Riverstick:
A real 1970’s long haul machine there Boatchaser…Spot lights under the bumper in the frame…Airhorn with the pull chord…American number plates galore and of course the obligatory hanging bucket in the front towing pin…a great era
The driver looks quite “Special”
Wheel Nut i,ll pass on you comments to the driver she was the girlfriend and now the wife, glad you like her oh and the trucks not bad as well Eh
Neil B:
HI MOLEPOWER I THINK HENLEYS FINISHED UP IN M S SMALLS YARD THEY SOLD OUT TO WESTERN HEAVY HAULAGE IN ABOUT 1967 I HAVE A PHOTO OF A GUY ARTIC MUST LOOK IT OUT AND POST IT I WONDER IF ANY OTHER PHOTOS ABOUT
i thought smalls had what is now Kings Road Tyres ?
A photo of one of several TM tractor units we ran. At this time this vehicle was unregistered, but all were 26 ton GVW Bedford 500 cu in engine.We had since Chev days operated Bedford vehicles and had high hopes for the TM but it was a disapointment.Anyone interested in vehicle registrations can get these from fleet list in W.H.Williams Thread. Amonst the many problems was cab rot and we were replacing cab components years earlier than we would have needed with TK.
that looks a nice tidy motor mate a credit to you is it a 290 ■■■■■■■■ if so what box is in it I drove an xreg years ago with 290 ■■■■■■■ and spicer 10 speed splitter box which I liked very much she used to march on thats for sure
I was seventeen and an apprentice mechanic at jl coopers milton stoke on trent, i remember them having a tm detroit demonstrator but it never got a foothold in the fleet, also century oils hanley replaced their tks with them , it was to much to late with the tm foreign competition was flooding in by then,its a shame bedfords were the mainstay of many a fleet and good workhorses.
The only thing S/A on them was the badge . . .wasnt it ?
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