Well I will look at the things that would be most useful to us:-
Drivers Hours
Tachograph Digi’s
Safe loading
Being civil to the ■■■■ who just happens to be one of our best customers, cause its murder to get new customers at the moment and we are sorry if you have to run empty “up” the road to get a back load “past the depot” but we cannot affod to run empty miles
How not to leave your vehicle ticking over with the keys in it, in the middle of West Brom whilst you collect your paperwork…
That the whole purpose of a daily check on your tyres is not just to say “yep” its there and is sort of round - as a matter of interest how often do you have your tyre pressure actually checked ?
And that we spend a fortune on driver ppe - so please dont deface it by writing “knobba” on the back of it, and if you want all singing all dancing protective boots, then please understand that we will give you £35 quid towards them, but wont buy £100 quid boots for you.
Drivers hours, working time regulations and use of a digital tachograph is more than enough for a days training.
I’ve only done one days training, the course was called drivers legal liabilities (or something like that), the course covered things like drivers hours, working time regulations, digital tachographs, load security, fuel efficiency and loads more stuff
The instructor was way out of date with his knowledge anyway but even if that hadn’t been the case the course covered far more than you could possibly learn or teach in a day, the whole day was just a boring box ticking exercise, skipping through subjects so quickly that they were no use to anyone in my opinion.
Better to teach one subject well that to teach lots of subjects badly
It’s quite obvious from the persistently expressed opinions by a lot of drivers on this forum, that they regard the DCPC as a waste of time, and an insult to their vocational abilities and job experience.
Unfortunately they direct their anger and resentment at the wrong people.
DCPC trainers are putting into practice policies that they themselves did not conceive or legislate to introduce. That misguided responsibility lies with others… ie those with vested interests above the actual facilitators of the courses.
Any opposition to the hated courses should be directed at the government and the lobbyists who succeeded in getting it implemented.
I don’t pretend to know much about the hated DCPC but I do know that confronting Trainers is not the way to go. They are tutors that’s all. They are there to impart course content as designed and drawn up by someone else and their interested party’s.
Who would want to do their job when confronted by 20-30 irate hairy-arsed truck drivers who think they are being treated like schoolchildren and worse still ■■■■?
So my question to the OP would be this:
Why the eff would you want to assist in the re-education of uninterested truckers and risk setting yourself up as a turkey shoot?
Jenson Button:
Finally would I still have to do the DCPC? or would i get the hours because I I teach it?
Sorry mate, 'fraid not.
I’ve taught approx 1,500 DCPC hours, but I still haven’t got one single hour credited to my own DCPC hours account.
Seems daft, surely if you have been teaching it, you have been in the classroom for 7 hours while someone was teaching it… there’s nothing stopping a barber from cutting his own hair.
Hi Harry,
That was my point exactly when I discussed that very subject with a JAUPT inspector when I had a verification visit.
My argument was that I was in ‘attendance,’ but it fell on deaf ears.
dieseldave:
That was my point exactly when I discussed that very subject with a JAUPT inspector when I had a verification visit.
My argument was that I was in ‘attendance,’ but it fell on deaf ears.
Tells you all you need to know. It’s not about whether you are competent or not, because you obviously are if you teach it. They just want your £350 as well.
dieseldave:
That was my point exactly when I discussed that very subject with a JAUPT inspector when I had a verification visit.
My argument was that I was in ‘attendance,’ but it fell on deaf ears.
Tells you all you need to know. It’s not about whether you are competent or not, because you obviously are if you teach it. They just want your £350 as well.
That JAUPT verification happened on an ADR course I taught, but the JAUPT guy was quite surprised to find an SQA external verifier already in the room when he arrived.
That’s the thing with JAUPT, (in my experience) they don’t normally stay for the whole day, whereas an SQA verification visit for an ADR course is far more rigorous and the instructor can expect to be observed for the whole day by somebody who knows the subject thoroughly. AFAIK, SQA verifiers also hold the DGSA qualification so a crap ADR instructor is usually spotted quite quickly.
I do understand a lot of the guy’s comments about the quality of some DCPC courses, but the quality issue won’t be properly dealt with until JAUPT get some inspectors who truly understand the subject matter whatever it is that’s being taught.
IMHO it’s not enough that an inspector is simply a qualified verifier, cos it seems quite evident to me that the quality issue is just one of the issues that are still outstanding and the whole lot needs to be addressed before the DCPC gains proper acceptance from the attendees. IMHO, the guys are entitled to expect to receive accurate and useful info for their money.
Barbers cut each other’s hair. 