Be careful who loads your load

use a name:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prkzj528xXQ

Don’t forget rope hooks are for tarpaulins, and ropes of course!

A bit of a weak reconstruction though.

very interesting that, thanks

was good to see the driver checked how secure the tubes were fastened on :unamused:

“written information about how the load is secured and loaded should be carried with the driver” :question: :confused: Never seen or heard anything like that before. Does “should be” mean it’s a legal requirement?

Nearest thing I’ve ever had to documents showing how the vehicle was loaded is a manifest which just describes the load and gives the weight if you are lucky,If possible i like to supervise the loading so i can make sure it ain’t gonna move forwards if that is at all possible, i have done steel tubing loaded by a overhead crane,they left a small gap to bulkhead i filled it with pallets not that they would stop it should i hit something head on ,but they would slow down any momentum it could get. and it was really well strapped down too, i used around 12 of em, and the front bundles i strapped individually for good measure as i did not like the idea of being impaled or crushed by them

I am surprised that your flatbed that carries steel sheeting allot doesn’t have a adjustable head board

Biscuits:
“written information about how the load is secured and loaded should be carried with the driver” :question: :confused: Never seen or heard anything like that before. Does “should be” mean it’s a legal requirement?

I bet that will only be a matter of time,like we have to sign to say we have checked everything else.

Although it was only a re enactment to show the serious consequences that can occur if the load is not secure, in like for like real situation i would hope that someone would of thought to uncouple the trl cab and tow or move the cab forwards enough to free him,to save a life ?

It was nice to see that he never dented the expensive eminox stack! :slight_smile:

I, too, thought they could have pulled the pin and moved the cab forwards, either with a portapower jack or by hitching a fire engine to it.

Did I not see the chap say we should hook the straps onto the edge rail? I thought we were being told to hook onto the chassis?

Obvious that VOSA havent seen this clip yet. They would have done the driver for no rear number plate

What that clip needed was Brian Coat (David Badiel) to come on & say “Now there was no need for that to happen”

tommy t:
Although it was only a re enactment to show the serious consequences that can occur if the load is not secure, in like for like real situation i would hope that someone would of thought to uncouple the trl cab and tow or move the cab forwards enough to free him,to save a life ?

not many people will know how to when they attend the scene. When Police or Ambo attended scene like that ( I have been first at a fatal ) we are trained not to move anything as it may make things worse ( but still give first aid ), if you catch my drift.

double post sorry

Secretelephant:
What that clip needed was Brian Coat (David Badiel) to come on & say “Now there was no need for that to happen”

:laughing: :laughing:

interesting veiw that the gap between the load and the headboard should be filled, thats makes 80% of loads out of corus steels insecure! as well as a hell of lot of the steel loads out of the various docks and what about loads of timber on a flat where the top pack sits above the headboard height?
just on the vid, what driver dosn’t check a flatbed load? he didn’t even strap the pipes ffs!

You don’t strap or chain something as heavy as steel plate to the side rails of a trailer, the HSE haven’t got a clue!

Most straps nowadays have a hook at the end of both the strap and the ratchet. If the tensioned strap loosens then it drops out from the side rail. Some straps come with a fitting, exactly the same as those on curtainsider buckles, designed specifically for attaching to the side rail but these are rarely seen. It is more advisable, particularly with steel, to hook the strap directly to the chassis rail or run chains under the trailer’s chassis rails (the free ends of the chain are then tensioned by the ‘dog’ to the side of the load).

I don’t necessarily agree with filling the gaps, providing you use the relevant straps etc. to secure the load. If it was me, I would have ‘crossed’ straps or chains fore and aft of the load to stop it moving forwards or backwards. I would have put another over the centre to hold the load to the deck. I would also have roped the tubes, using opposing force, to the trailer.

If load security is such a common problem shouldn’t there be a practical training and testing module when people take a LGV driving test?

Bob

paul b:
interesting veiw that the gap between the load and the headboard should be filled, thats makes 80% of loads out of corus steels insecure! as well as a hell of lot of the steel loads out of the various docks and what about loads of timber on a flat where the top pack sits above the headboard height?
just on the vid, what driver dosn’t check a flatbed load? he didn’t even strap the pipes ffs!

I remember we mentioned the adjustable headboard Paul when you embarked on your steel haulage. We were loading in France close to Port Jerome with internals and it was a total pain in the arse with a euroliner as they refused to load a trailer unless it had 3’’ square post sockets in the floor, they then butted the steel plate up to the fitted posts. If the trailer didn’t have these, then the whole roof at the front had to be released and slid towards the back, we tried blocking the void with wood or pallets but that wasn’t good enough. The benefit we had in France was 13.5t drive axles. It isn’t my idea of safe, but it was legal and the load cannot move forward as it is already at the front.

The Yanks have finally got into the last century with the Chameleon.

rollingtarps.com/flatbed-tra … tarps.html

The alternative to blocking the load is to use chains or twisted straps pulling the load fore and aft as well as fastening to the chassis, not the side rave

Shocking footage indeed…

Checkout that hall/stairs/landing :open_mouth: :laughing:

Wheel Nut:

paul b:
interesting veiw that the gap between the load and the headboard should be filled, thats makes 80% of loads out of corus steels insecure! as well as a hell of lot of the steel loads out of the various docks and what about loads of timber on a flat where the top pack sits above the headboard height?
just on the vid, what driver dosn’t check a flatbed load? he didn’t even strap the pipes ffs!

I remember we mentioned the adjustable headboard Paul when you embarked on your steel haulage. We were loading in France close to Port Jerome with internals and it was a total pain in the arse with a euroliner as they refused to load a trailer unless it had 3’’ square post sockets in the floor, they then butted the steel plate up to the fitted posts. If the trailer didn’t have these, then the whole roof at the front had to be released and slid towards the back, we tried blocking the void with wood or pallets but that wasn’t good enough. The benefit we had in France was 13.5t drive axles. It isn’t my idea of safe, but it was legal and the load cannot move forward as it is already at the front.

The Yanks have finally got into the last century with the Chameleon.

rollingtarps.com/flatbed-tra … tarps.html

The alternative to blocking the load is to use chains or twisted straps pulling the load fore and aft as well as fastening to the chassis, not the side rave

my point was that at the moment theres a vast amount of steel loads that you can’t load from the head board back, now corus has become very hse recently but their recomended methods for such loads dosn’t involve filling the void or any sort of restraint to stop the load moving forward other than a tensioned strap or chain across the load, so really in complete contradiction to this video.