Any tips from anyone on being pushed by a barber green tarmac machine in 8 wheeler? I know you have to apply some brake pressure to stop the truck rolling off the machine but surely it can’t do the brakes on the truck any good!
Coolrider:
Any tips from anyone on being pushed by a barber green tarmac machine in 8 wheeler? I know you have to apply some brake pressure to stop the truck rolling off the machine but surely it can’t do the brakes on the truck any good!
make sure you don’t spill it all in front of it 
d4c24a:
Coolrider:
Any tips from anyone on being pushed by a barber green tarmac machine in 8 wheeler? I know you have to apply some brake pressure to stop the truck rolling off the machine but surely it can’t do the brakes on the truck any good!make sure you don’t spill it all in front of it
its more a question about the truck and the brakes to be honest. If your applying pressure to brakes whilst being pushed then surely they will become hot and wear quite quick if your doing it every day
Just apply enough brake otherwise on loose stone the machine will probably get bogged down and then the gang will expect you to pull them out. Also heavy braking can cause the machine to ‘rock’ and cause ripples in the new mat, when the ganger heads towards you brandishing a shovel just lock the cab door smartish! 
If you tip too much material in the pan it will try and force you off of the paver so just keep it filled enough to avoid that, if one of the gang is watching you tip just take note of what he tells you.
Pete.
SO, hes asking for advice for going on a barber green… But what if he has to go on a Blaw knox?? He’ll be buggered then!!
B…
Bungle666:
SO, hes asking for advice for going on a barber green… But what if he has to go on a Blaw knox?? He’ll be buggered then!!B…
Like i said above l know the principles of it but if your applying some pressure on the brakes whilst being pushed then the brakes will get hot and by the time you’ve finished tipping and drive off then brakes will be hot surely . Also the brakes surely won’t last long if your doing it every day at least once or sometimes two or three times a day. All that in a 100 grand motor mmm
Well I never noticed my brakes getting overheated in 20+ years of paver work and I don’t know anyone who has. You only feather them, not put them on hard, and usually you will be on and off the machine within five minutes.
Pete.
It’s only the lightest of touches. Doubt they will get hot enough to be any concern.
If you get the balance of not tipping the load too quickly you shouldnt need to use your brakes all of the time, and considering the amount of time spent on the machine they shouldnt get hot or wear excessively.
if you are not sure TELL the ganger before you start to tip that you are unsure on procedure and the banksman will keep a real close watch otherwise keep away from pubs the black crew use! as they have memories like elephants ( I had a motor wae the tipper lever down the side o the seat and the bloody thing fell to pieces when unloading intae a blaw knox) dumped more than a couple o tons o base and they still ragged me 10yrs later.
On most jobs one of the crew will act as a banksman to see you back onto the machine.
As has been said, be up front with the crew and tell them you have not had any experience being pushed, so they are aware.
Once backed up to the machine put handbrake on and wagon into neutral.
Banksman will signal you to raise the body, engage pto and send her up gently, don’t forget to open your tailboard.
I also roll back the easysheet so that the crew can see the load as it diminishes, helps them.
Banksman will signal you to stop raising the body and you will see/hear part of your load filling the paver pan.
If they are going to push you, the Banksman will usually shout BRAKES, whereupon you cover the footbrake and release the handbrake.
You will feel the load/paver starting to push you forward, you then keep gentle pressure on the footbrake to stop the lorry moving away from the paver. Obviously you want your lorry wheels to turn, just not move away from the paver.
If you do come off the paver, drop your body quickly otherwise asphalt will fall in front of the paver which means they have to stop and shovel it back in the pan, this you want to avoid as it makes you very unpopular.
You steer straight and the Banksman will holler at you to raise/lower body, steer as necessary.
It does your brakes no harm as you are only lightly riding them
You will screw it up at least once, we all have and still do, and you will be abused by the crew but don’t take it to heart.
Good luck
If its not been already mentioned ,remember to lift up your rear mudflaps.
Just ask the gaffer if you can do the uphill bits, it’ll be a doddle then.
Seriously, they are usually pretty good if you tell them you haven’t done it before, and as someone has already said put up your mud flaps or they’ll get ripped off and your back lights will melt, only gentle turning of the steering wheel too, just keep an eye on the banksman and you’ll be sound.
The higher your body is up the more force there will be trying to push you off the barber green, just apply enough pressure on the brakes to keep you on the machine, a good straight run can see you pulling off the paver in 3 minutes.
i used to tip tar on a machine with an artic out of Bardon.never a problem as they let the rigids do the difficult bits,roundabouts and the like.
Bungle666:
SO, hes asking for advice for going on a barber green… But what if he has to go on a Blaw knox?? He’ll be buggered then!!B…
Or a Bittelli , or a CAT, and I think Volvo make a paver as well.
Anymore ?
To the OP , just being pedantic and juvenile , sorry I’m sure you will be fine as has been said there will be plenty of people shouting and waving at you telling you what to do.
If they’re laying in a straight line you will stay on paver until your empty but if they are on a bend they may tip you in paver until it’s full then wave you off and then lay it, call you back when they’re empty again.
Good luck and let us know how you get on .
Jim
If youve got a manual tailgate, once youve split the tail gate, remember to fold the clamp bar back up, other wise it could get bent, or poke a hole in the pan of the machine.
Cheers all. Done it a few times now and so far not bad. Almost come off a few times but managed to stop so not bad there . It was more a question of the brakes but it seems ok if it’s just gentle braking. One thing i have found though is at that although i am on straights the pan of the machine sometimes gets close to one side of the truck and risks damaging the mud guards. Even when steering straight
Coolrider:
Cheers all. Done it a few times now and so far not bad. Almost come off a few times but managed to stop so not bad there
In my day, back in Ancient Times before they ‘invented’ Banksmen and you were left to sort it out for yourself, certain machine men absolutely loved bending your mudguards and knocking your rear lights off but you got wise to them eventually. It can be awkward though, especially on a tracked paver, as they turn far faster than you can and you suddenly find your mudguard tight against the pan sides. Then you are stuck, you can’t turn away from it, the machine driver curses you because he can’t turn the machine and if you drop the body the mudguards will get bent, then you get a load of abuse for getting in that predicament from the gang! Roundabouts are bad for that, some gangs will drop you off but others want you to stay on as long as possible. Another thing they used to try and do was, when the machine got stuck on loose stone, get the truck driver to reverse hard into the paver to try and shake it free! I always refused, also no way was I towing it forward either and you learn a whole new language from the foreman but just stand your ground and leave them to dig it out! 
Happy days, would do it all again though.
Pete.