sounds great. 
They keep a good average speed up those boys 
limeyphil:
macplaxton:
I take it you mean a non-resident UK licence holder rather than a resident one?iām resident in the UK. Indigenous, white, British, male.
Ok, UK resident.
switchlogic:
Took an email from someone quite high up in the RSA (Irelands VOSA) telling them those of us with UK licences didnāt have to comply.
Is that right? I thought it didnāt matter a monkeys what licence it was, it was residency that counted. 
Well if your resident in another country for any length of time sooner or later technically you should surrender your UK licence for a local one. If you live abroad what address would you give the DVLA?
Lycanthrope:
you really want to work for this company ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sta7lB2VmD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcyzIOW_THk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSDYRWxo1E
Is it a coincidence that the drivers are all foreign (polish?)
Iām not saying itās the drivers fault, but as a driver, if Iād done 6 days driving, they could tell me what the ā ā ā ā they want, the truck wouldnāt be moving (with me behind the wheel) for 24hrs.
switchlogic:
Well if your resident in another country for any length of time sooner or later technically you should surrender your UK licence for a local one. If you live abroad what address would you give the DVLA?
No you donāt, if its an EU country license you do not need to change it. My UK licence is perfectly legal in France
Ok fair enough so what address is written on it?
switchlogic:
Well if your resident in another country for any length of time sooner or later technically you should surrender your UK licence for a local one. If you live abroad what address would you give the DVLA?
If you were a resident of Ireland with a UK Licence you do not have to surrender it for an Irish Licence, however if you were became a resident of the UK with an Irish Licence you would have to surrender it for a UK Licence after a period of 12 months.
switchlogic:
Well if your resident in another country for any length of time sooner or later technically you should surrender your UK licence for a local one. If you live abroad what address would you give the DVLA?
If you live abroad, you do not have to update your address*, nor will they accept a foreign address on a UK licence. If you take up residency in another EU/EEA country, your licence is mutually recognised and will only need to be exchanged if:
a) you want to
b) it expires
c) lost/stolen/defaced/etc
d) that particular country imposes shorter limits.
[*Section 99 sub (5) RTA 1988. - You are not guilty of an offence as you have reasonable cause for not surrendering the licence for an address change.]
switchlogic:
Ok fair enough so what address is written on it?
Last UK address resided at.
KeepHerLitV8:
If you were a resident of Ireland with a UK Licence you do not have to surrender it for an Irish Licence,
You have to do a swap when it expires (which may be 70th birthday / 45th birthday / photocard expires).
KeepHerLitV8:
however if you were became a resident of the UK with an Irish Licence you would have to surrender it for a UK Licence after a period of 12 months.
No. That rule applies to some other countryās licences outwith the EU/EEA. What you may be confusing it with (and Iāll make a distinction here) is the need for vocational drivers to register details within 12 months with the DVLA. EU/EEA licence is kept (if still valid), but a seperate tally is kept on a parallel file sort of thing. [I canāt find the details on the direct.gov.uk site, but it used to be descibed as having to apply for a GB counterpart licence (the paper bit) so they could stick points on a shadow licence. It was mandatory within a set period for vocational licence holders and optional for regular licence holders]
(from Driving In GB On A Foreign Licence)
Provided your licence remains valid you may drive in GB:
Car, motorcycle driving licence holders (ordinary driving licence):
until aged 70 or for three years after becoming resident, whichever is the longer period
Lorry, minibus, bus driving licence holders (vocational driving licence):
until aged 45 or for five years after becoming resident, whichever is the longer period
if you are aged over 45 (but under 65) until your 66th birthday or for five years after becoming resident, whichever is the shorter period
if you are aged 65 or over for 12 months after becoming resident
So:
a) if I were a 20 year old trucker from Germany, I could be resident in the UK for 20 years and not have to change it if it was still valid āback homeā.
b) if I was a 69 year old car driver from France, after taking residence in the UK, it would be good until I was 72.
c) if I was 50 years old car driver from Euroland with a licence valid until 2021, and took up residence in the UK, it would be good until I was 60. As the licence expires.
Your forgetting licences are only valid for 10 years before you have to renew them. In the UK at least. Where do you get it sent to then if you donāt have an address here?
Iām not forgetting owt. I do make it clear if itās still valid.
Iāve got regular entitlements valid to 2044, vocational licence entitlements valid to 2019 and a licence which expires (because itās a photocard) in 2012. When 2012 comes I can
a) I apply for a local licence.
b) become re-resident in the UK and get it renewed for another 10 years.
c) just stick a rellies UK address on it.
switchlogic:
Your forgetting licences are only valid for 10 years before you have to renew them. In the UK at least. Where do you get it sent to then if you donāt have an address here?
I use my sons address, on the license it says āaddress where I can be contactedā, not where I live. Thousands of expats within the EU do it that way.
limeyphil:
he knows i have a UK licence. so he should be aware that i donāt need a DCPC.
If in his country CPC is required, then if you want to be employed by the company from such country you have to obtain one.
Itās like in Poland: your license is valid there, so you can drive lorry. But if you want to be employed by the Polish company, their legal obligation is to assure that all their drivers have CPC. No CPC, no work.
I am affraid that as long as itās required in Ireland and his company is Irish registered, heās right.
switchlogic:
Well if your resident in another country for any length of time sooner or later technically you should surrender your UK licence for a local one. If you live abroad what address would you give the DVLA?
It does not work like that the other way, so why should he exchange his British license to foreign one?
orys:
limeyphil:
he knows i have a UK licence. so he should be aware that i donāt need a DCPC.If in his country CPC is required, then if you want to be employed by the company from such country you have to obtain one.
Itās like in Poland: your license is valid there, so you can drive lorry. But if you want to be employed by the Polish company, their legal obligation is to assure that all their drivers have CPC. No CPC, no work.
I am affraid that as long as itās required in Ireland and his company is Irish registered, heās right.
not according to VOSA.
KeepHerLitV8:
If you were a resident of Ireland with a UK Licence you do not have to surrender it for an Irish Licence, however if you were became a resident of the UK with an Irish Licence you would have to surrender it for a UK Licence after a period of 12 months.
Not true (unless there are some different laws regarding NI licenses).
You can exchange it no later than 3 years after you moved in, or untill youāll be 45 (for PCV/HGV) and 70, whatever is LONGER time.
So I can drive on my Polish license for about 15 years or for 40 if I give up trucks.
But he isnāt right Orys. Limey is UK resident. For the purposes of CPC, you comply with the rules where you are resident. Not necessarily where the āundertakingā is based.
Article 9 of 2009/53/EC: āDrivers referred to in Article 1(a) and 1(b) shall undergo the
periodic training referred to in Article 7 in the Member State in which they have their normal residence or the Member State in which they work.ā
So if someone is UK resident, working in the UK, driving an Irish truck for an Irish undertaking. The UK CPC rules apply.
switchlogic:
Your forgetting licences are only valid for 10 years before you have to renew them. In the UK at least. Where do you get it sent to then if you donāt have an address here?
You will surender it to the country of your residence and they will send you a new one from this country.
orys:
You can exchange it no later than 3 years after you moved in, or untill youāll be 45 (for PCV/HGV) and 70, whatever is LONGER time.So I can drive on my Polish license for about 15 years or for 40 if I give up trucks.
Going back up a few posts Orys, if youāre driving trucks, details of the Polish licence have to be registered with the DVLA within 12 months.
limeyphil:
not according to VOSA.
So does VOSA operates now in other countries as well? Last time I checked they were only in Britain.
My point is: if heās EMPLOYED by IRISH/POLISH/FRENCH company, he has to fulfill IRISH/POLISH/FRENCH requirements, even if he drivers only in UK.
VOSA might say you donāt need CPC to drive in UK, and that is true, but if IRISH/POLISH/FRENCH authorithies say that to be employed by IRISH/POLISH/FRENCH company you have to fulfill IRISH/POLISH/FRENCH requirements, you just have to fulfill them.
If you donāt like it, find a job in UK company and then you will be fine without your CPC.