Backing a Rear Steering axle trailer into a bay at an angle

so, doing the back turn axle unlocked, pull forward straight or quasi-straight, lock axle and back-up onto bay.

Otherwise, locking first and doing a sharp angle heavy loaded, the thing clunks, reverse angle widens big time, tyres scrub big time

What am I getting wrong?

Lock the axle when reversing. Simple as that.

what are you getting wrong?

Only ones I canremember were for salvesons , I’d go along with moaster

D J Trump style:

IF YOU LOCK THE REAR AXLE REVERSING TIGHT ANGLE, TYRES SCRUB, LOCKING CLUNKS, MAYHEM!!!

Do tyres not get scrubbed when reversing tight angles with fixed axles then?

Once again I’ll repeat; axles should be locked when reversing, unless you’re happy to park on bay 9 and three quarters Harry Potter style.

What are we talking about?

I assume a passive steer axle? Not a positive steer axle?
Is it a passive steer that is failing to lock in ā€œstraight aheadā€ position?

thank you for flagging this as a source of confusion, indeed. Albeit, let us distance from the faggotry-laden taxonomy of ā€˜active’ and ā€˜passive’.

The trailer is a long freacking thing, not the shorter two rear axles one steering to deliver Safeway stores in London, it is long and it contained 28 UK standard pallets one tonne each.

There is a button by the parking brake and shunting labelled ā€œpress for shuntingā€. So, there is no automatic device locking the rear axle, the driver has to come down out of the cab shine or rain and press it in order to lock the axle.

My uneducated approach when at a tight angle reversing is to leave it unlocked; once I am straight on the bay or at a mild angle, I come down and lock it for the final back-up avoiding Harry Pottering.

I did it locked all the time, and the cliunking and scrubbing the tarmac happened, so despite parking it up dead straigh I looked very Harry Potter at least to myself.

What I was asking by opening this thread, is for both the right textbook appoach and the expertise of those who deal with it on a regular basis.

Seriously mate, I’ve many years of experience behind me including many many shifts piloting a Terberg so my advice is ALWAYS lock the axle prior to reversing. I understand that you don’t want to scrub tyres, which is a fair point, but the simple truth is that if it isn’t the rear axle tyres getting r4ped it the middle or front ones. Can only be avoided by a relatively straight approach, but as we all know sometimes that just ain’t possible.

The button by the park brake is nothing to do with the rear steer, it releases the brakes to shunt without hooking up the suzies. The rear axle should lock up when you are in a straight line and you engage reverse-it operates through the reversing light circuit. Hope this helps.

100% agree.

100% agree again…with emphasis on the ā€œshouldā€ lock up.
Is it?

Edit to add

I’m confused?? I drive rear steer 40ft 33ft and 26ft trailers. No option to lock the rear wheels for reversing. We have 5 bays at angle for some of the 26’s but they’re no issue given some of the places we have to reverse.

Or are you on about reve sing onto a bay which you can’t line up for? We got one of them too for a 40 ft and 33ft.

Thank you maoster, I appreciate you clarifying.

to the other responses:

WHAT THE FREAKING DANTE’S INFERNO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!

THE 55+ FOOT TRAILER HAS A DESIGNATED BUTTON TO BE PUSHED AND LOCKS THE STEERING AXLE!!! NO FFFUCKIIIG AUTOMATIC SELF-LOCKING

Ah well then.

Written in BLOCK CAPITALS, so obviously another stable genius, who is in no need of assistance from mere mortal truck drivers.

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Don’t lock the rear steer to reverse Mayhem.

Do lock it some tyre scrub and protest from the steering and lock mechanism.

Wow! Angry little man :astonished_face:. Not heard of self locking either? I’ll get my coat.