Ex-Pickford Tank or Heavy Haul?
adr:
Ex-Pickford Tank or Heavy Haul?
Ex Heavy Haulage, I believe, these two. ALR 176B was a 6x2 unit and pulled tanks
240 Gardner:
adr:
Ex-Pickford Tank or Heavy Haul?Ex Heavy Haulage, I believe, these two. ALR 176B was a 6x2 unit and pulled tanks
Hi Chris they were all Heavy Haulage to start with and there was a mix of Artic units and Ballast box tractors I am sure Lincoln depot had one of each and Leeds had a 6x4 tractor unit as Don Ellis drove that and it was replaced by a viewline .
They were rated at 20 tonners ( payload ) but that only meant they would be used up to 25 tons
A few went to BRS for wreckers and I am sure Pickfords tank haulage Trafford Park had one for a shunter and taking trailers for M O T
cheers Johnnie
sammyopisite:
240 Gardner:
adr:
Ex-Pickford Tank or Heavy Haul?Ex Heavy Haulage, I believe, these two. ALR 176B was a 6x2 unit and pulled tanks
Hi Chris they were all Heavy Haulage to start with and there was a mix of Artic units and Ballast box tractors I am sure Lincoln depot had one of each and Leeds had a 6x4 tractor unit as Don Ellis drove that and it was replaced by a viewline .
They were rated at 20 tonners ( payload ) but that only meant they would be used up to 25 tons
A few went to BRS for wreckers and I am sure Pickfords tank haulage Trafford Park had one for a shunter and taking trailers for M O T
cheers Johnnie
Thanks Johnnie!
240 Gardner:
adr:
Ex-Pickford Tank or Heavy Haul?Ex Heavy Haulage, I believe, these two. ALR 176B was a 6x2 unit and pulled tanks
I thought ALR had the Tanker look about it from a picture I saw, Sod’s law I can’t find the picture again at mo’, it’s in 1 of my books! Regards Chris
adr:
240 Gardner:
adr:
Ex-Pickford Tank or Heavy Haul?Ex Heavy Haulage, I believe, these two. ALR 176B was a 6x2 unit and pulled tanks
I thought ALR had the Tanker look about it from a picture I saw, Sod’s law I can’t find the picture again at mo’, it’s in 1 of my books! Regards Chris
Chris adr there is a picture of it in a book with a tank behind it but the book is a re print from around the 90s but in the 60s they were all on heavy haulage
cheers Johnnie
gazsa401:
Here’s mine 0
Thats nice that gazsa, i like that alot. Is it an 8 pot?
Chris.
STRAIGHT EIGHT:
gazsa401:
Here’s mine 0Thats nice that gazsa, i like that alot. Is it an 8 pot?
Chris.
thanks Straight Eight no unfortunately it’s got a 14ltr 250 ■■■■■■■ fitted it’s just a replica of the ones we used to run.
All ours were Gardner powered fitted with either the 8LXC and 8LXCT and we had some with the smaller 6LXCT.
They gave us tremendous service and did enormous mileage with very little engine trouble most were kept for 10 years plus.
One managed 14 years service until the dreaded rust beetle won the battle.
I’ve had this for 7 years and it’s took me 5 years to restore her I finished her last year.
I worked at Stirlands for 18 years it was a great firm
gazsa401:
STRAIGHT EIGHT:
gazsa401:
Here’s mine 0Thats nice that gazsa, i like that alot. Is it an 8 pot?
Chris.thanks Straight Eight no unfortunately it’s got a 14ltr 250 ■■■■■■■ fitted it’s just a replica of the ones we used to run.
All ours were Gardner powered fitted with either the 8LXC and 8LXCT and we had some with the smaller 6LXCT.
They gave us tremendous service and did enormous mileage with very little engine trouble most were kept for 10 years plus.
One managed 14 years service until the dreaded rust beetle won the battle.
I’ve had this for 7 years and it’s took me 5 years to restore her I finished her last year.
I worked at Stirlands for 18 years it was a great firm
You’ve done a fantastic job, really looks the part in stirlands livery. Fantastic lump the 8 cylinder, i remember my dad coming home in a brand new B series fitted with a 240 (1 of 4) and that went on to do 16 years on the road before getting sold to showman in 96 with well over a million clicks behind it. To my knowledge it was only ever rebuilt once in 1988. Two of the other 3 went on to do 12 & 13 years service before being sold on, sadly the 4th was written off when only a couple years old and replaced by a keenly priced Sedatki 400 with a 14 litre 250. The 250 was a flying machine, but heavy on fuel, 6.5mpg, where as the Gardners always 7.8 - 8mpg. The Seddon lasted well though, and after having its cab patched up numerous times it went on to do 13yrs on the road and a years shunting 
STRAIGHT EIGHT:
gazsa401:
STRAIGHT EIGHT:
gazsa401:
Here’s mine 0Thats nice that gazsa, i like that alot. Is it an 8 pot?
Chris.thanks Straight Eight no unfortunately it’s got a 14ltr 250 ■■■■■■■ fitted it’s just a replica of the ones we used to run.
All ours were Gardner powered fitted with either the 8LXC and 8LXCT and we had some with the smaller 6LXCT.
They gave us tremendous service and did enormous mileage with very little engine trouble most were kept for 10 years plus.
One managed 14 years service until the dreaded rust beetle won the battle.
I’ve had this for 7 years and it’s took me 5 years to restore her I finished her last year.
I worked at Stirlands for 18 years it was a great firmYou’ve done a fantastic job, really looks the part in stirlands livery. Fantastic lump the 8 cylinder, i remember my dad coming home in a brand new B series fitted with a 240 (1 of 4) and that went on to do 16 years on the road before getting sold to showman in 96 with well over a million clicks behind it. To my knowledge it was only ever rebuilt once in 1988. Two of the other 3 went on to do 12 & 13 years service before being sold on, sadly the 4th was written off when only a couple years old and replaced by a keenly priced Sedatki 400 with a 14 litre 250. The 250 was a flying machine, but heavy on fuel, 6.5mpg, where as the Gardners always 7.8 - 8mpg. The Seddon lasted well though, and after having its cab patched up numerous times it went on to do 13yrs on the road and a years shunting
Thanks again they also sounded great my Dad had the very first 240 powered A Series in Scotland it was pride of place at the 1972 Kelvin Hall Motor Show he worked for a Scottish firm called Kinneils Transport of Edinburgh he was based in Nottingham and used to park up in Stirlands yard he went on to work for Stirlands for the next 37 years until his retirement
what do you call this one then,cheers benkku
bma.finland:
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what do you call this one then,cheers benkku
Hi BMA that wagon is a " Krupp cab Atkinson " they were produced in a small number in the late 60s I think they were aimed at continental work and sales with it being a steel cab but the idea never gained any ground for some reason as I always thought they were comparable to continental makes when they were introduced to the market.
Chris ( 240 gardner ) is one of the most knowledgeable people on all things Atkinson so he may be able to shed some light on this subject.
cheers Johnnie 
know i have posted this elsewhere on here but think it needs to go here in a yard on the coast road between Arbroath & inverkielor winter 2009
sammyopisite:
bma.finland:
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what do you call this one then,cheers benkkuHi BMA that wagon is a " Krupp cab Atkinson " they were produced in a small number in the late 60s I think they were aimed at continental work and sales with it being a steel cab but the idea never gained any ground for some reason as I always thought they were comparable to continental makes when they were introduced to the market.
Chris ( 240 gardner ) is one of the most knowledgeable people on all things Atkinson so he may be able to shed some light on this subject.
cheers Johnnie
You are too kind, Johnnie 
The Krupp-cabbed Atki was the spearhead of their assault on Europe in 1968/9, an effort which included setting up a new subsidiary company in Antwerp. The range consisted of 38 ton (not tonnes!) tractors, with day or sleeper tilt cabs, and a 6x4 rigid. The tractors had 220 Rolls engines, ZF 6-speed gearbox and Kirkstall driving axle. A 260bhp of the engine was supposedly available (no reference to any gearbox upgrade): however, although I have several original build cards for these motors, all are shown to have the 220. I’m not positive about the number built, although Comberhill Commercials were advertising a choice of 10 in 1970 - that might have been all of them!
As far as I’m aware, only the one rigid was built, and it subsequently ended up in Jamaica, where Atkinson had a number of loyal customers. One of the early test photos of it shows an RR badge, but another shot, taken in Jamaica, shows a ■■■■■■■ badge.
Quite what project longevity could have been achieved by buying cabs from a manufacturer who has just ceased production, has always puzzled me. As it was, the cabs came from Krupp fully-trimmed and even instrumented, so they were very un-Atkinson-like inside. There were mechanical changes compared with the ‘Silver Knight’ of the period, in terms of axle weights, softer springs, etc., but not enough to convince our Continental cousins, clearly!
I’ve an article about the launch, but it’s written in Flemish and French, so a little translation is required…
