Astran / Middle East Drivers

leedjireland:
Hi Geoff,yeah he,s alive and kicking and as daft.been reading through the thread a bit more,great hear the old names I considered legends
,you and Tony,johnny Howard,Davey mason,jack Richards and last but not least Dave chamberlain.have fond memories of school holidays
goin away with dad did quite a few italys loved it,though not the mont cenis at night lol.read you’ve got your feet up in sunnier climes,don’t blame you…

Hiya Lee,how you doin’?.I’ve not seen your dad for many years,the last time I heard of him he was an ice cream man,how’s your mum Liz?There were a lot of good times in the old days weren’t there.Sadly Davey Mason passed away some years ago,another victim of the big ‘C’.What are you doing? are you driving yourself or doing something sensible?

Does anyone have an update on Chris Hooper, since he had his stroke. I hope that he is making a good recovery and I’m sure that all who know’s him wishes him and Tina well. Regards Jamie.

A Scot Lost in the Valley’s.

Hi Tony,yeah did end up driving,20 years now.just spent last few years driving for a couple of Irish firms on fridge work but the money was getting less and the weeks away more and more.back in UK now on night trunking till feet start itching :slight_smile:

M&C Jamie:
Does anyone have an update on Chris Hooper, since he had his stroke. I hope that he is making a good recovery and I’m sure that all who know’s him wishes him and Tina well. Regards Jamie.

A Scot Lost in the Valley’s.

Jamie,
This is the first I’ve heard that Hooperman is not well.
Hope he’s back on his feet soon.Best wishes to Chris and Tina.

hope chris is on the mend

Hi there , yes the driver trevor marks is my dad and i remember the story well

cheers

KW:

adr:
Anyone recognise them? Pictured in Turkey.

The driver’s were Jim Routledge and Trevor Marks,they were driving for Bob Kilby Transport from Swindon.The Danish driver is Torben Lang.
The pic is from an article that appeared in Trucking International magazine in the early 80’s,and was about the trip from Denmark to Baghdad.

ANOTHER COLD WINTER IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA.

I wrote this out about five years ago but I never got around to putting it on Trucknet, so here goes.

Back in 1981 I was told that I had to load at Courtaulds in Spondon near Derby and I had to deliver the full load of bales of textiles to Ankara in Turkey. After I had tipped I called into the Telex Motel in Ankara to get my reload instructions which told me go to a town near Nova Sad in northern Yugoslavia and load furniture for Cradley Heath near Birmingham. As I had no Austrian permit it meant travelling through Hungary and Czechoslovakia. It was the beginning of December and throughout the trip I had only seen a few snow showers, nothing too much to worry about and no need for snow chains as the main T.I.R. routes had been kept fairly clear. However as I was coming up through Czechoslovakia the snow started coming down and then it began to build up on the road.
It was about 9 o’clock in the morning as my column gear change “S” registered 16:280 M.A.N. plodded on up the motorway north of Brno. The motorway from here to Prague was beginning to climb a few hills in the open countryside and the snow was starting to drift across the open fields and onto the road. In the distance I could see that the police had parked across the main carriageway and they diverted me off the motorway onto a minor road.
I followed the minor road for about 10 kilometres until I was in what I thought was the middle of nowhere when I came up towards a cross roads. I couldn’t see the road sign as it was covered in snow, so I parked the truck in the middle of the road with the hand brake on and I left the engine running. I made my way through the snow which was about a foot deep at the side of the road and by now there was about two or three inches of snow covering the road.
I cleared the snow off the sign with my hand and discovered that I had come up to a main road and to the left was the road to Prague. As I turned round I got the shock of my life, the truck was moving. I stood there staring at the truck, watching it sliding sideways down the camber of the road moving very slowly towards a deep ditch that had a stream flowing through it, running parallel to the road.
When I fully realised what was happening I scrambled through the snow and back on to the road. I climbed into the cab, put the truck into gear and let the clutch out slowly, the drive wheels started spinning, the unit wasn’t going anywhere but the trailer wheels were still sliding sideways slowly towards the ditch. I engaged the diff lock, I let the clutch up slowly but instead of going forward the nearside back end of the unit also started moving toward the edge of the road. The tractor and trailer were by now in a slight jack knife position. After a couple of vain attempts I got out to look at the situation, the trailer was still moving slowly towards the ditch and there was nothing that I could do about it.
I had the horrible feeling that the trailer was going to slide down into the ditch and pull the tractor back with it. This was a nightmare that was happening even though it was 9.30 in the morning and I wasn’t dreaming. I climbed back into the cab and took out my jacket, gloves and moon boots.
I put on the warm clothing and looked at the back of the trailer, it had stopped moving but the truck and trailer were in a jack knife position. I climbed back into the cab to try again, by now the nearside drive axle was onto the grass verge and the offside wheels were spinning on what felt like a sheet of ice.
About 10 minutes had passed and I hadn’t seen another vehicle, at least by now it had stopped snowing. Then in the distance I saw a small army four wheel drive going along the main road. Much to my surprise it stopped, somebody got out, climbed onto the bonnet and started to look towards me through a pair of binoculars. Then he climbed down and got back into the vehicle which turned around and made it’s way over towards where I was parked. Two soldiers then got out of the vehicle and came over towards me and I realized that by their ill fitting uniforms and the hammer and sickle insignia on their furry hats that they were Russians.
Americana, one of them asked, he obviously hadn’t noticed the Union Flags that were painted on the doors, Nein British I replied, British cigaretten he said.
As I felt a little bit sorry for them I climbed back into the cab and gave them each a twenty packet of Benson and Hedges. I never smoked but the company who I working for always paid us £5 a trip to buy your duty frees which could always be used for a back sheish or to say thank you to anybody who gave you a helping hand. The young squaddies looked really happy with their packet of ciggies as they took the cellophane wrapping off very carefully. Then, one of them walked back to the small four wheel drive and pulled out what looked like an old world war two radio transmitter about the size of a ghetto blaster. He then pulled out the aerial which went up to a height of about five feet and started talking into the old telephone handset in Russian.
When he had finished, the two of them let down the tail gate of the four wheel drive and took out a chain. This was no ordinary chain, it was about twenty feet long, it looked like it weighed a ton and could only be described as a ships anchor chain. They dragged it across to the front of my unit and connected it up to my front towing pin. If they thought that they were going to tow me with their little four wheel drive, which was about the size of a short wheel base Landrover, then a miracle was about to happen.
One of the soldiers said to me “ funf minuten ” (five minutes), he got into the vehicle and parked it about one hundred feet behind my trailer, then walked back to where I was stood. So what was going to happen in five minutes, maybe I had misunderstood what they meant. Then one of them said something to his mate and pointed across the field.
I could not believe my eyes, for there coming across the snow covered field, doing about 30 miles per hour and blowing up clouds of powder snow was a Russian tank. The noise got louder and louder as it got closer and it knocked down a barbed wire fence as it squeezed between my unit and the sign post that I had just scrapped the snow off. As it made it’s way onto the road the noise was becoming unbearable, I could see the driver at the front of the tank with his goggles and his ear defenders on and then the hatch on the top popped open, a head appeared and started having a conversation with my two new friends.
The turret turned to the right and the tank then nosed it’s way slowly towards the front of my unit as the two squaddies put the other end of the chain on to the towing pin of the tank. I jumped into my cab, started the engine and gave the driver the thumbs up. The turret along with it’s gun turned to the right once again and the tank started to reverse, my unit and trailer straightened up and I was pulled onto the road in a clean straight line.
Three soldiers got out of the tank while the two young guys from the four wheel drive took the chain off my towing pin. I gave them all a packet of cigarettes and my two friends another packet each. I also gave them an empty Townsend Thoreson duty free plastic bag each and they were all looked extremely happy.
After a lot of hand shaking I went on my way and I eventually ended up on a road that ran parallel with the motorway which was in the valley below. It was never what you called a busy motorway but I could see that most of the vehicles looked like they were stuck in the snow. I carried on up the old road for about 20 kilometres where I picked up the motorway again and had a fairly good run up to Prague and the West German border.
The following morning I met up with a Dutchman who told me that he had been stuck near Brno for over six hours the day before so all in all it was not a bad day and one that I will never forget.
This was not the only time that something like this happened. The following year I was running with another two Brits going through Czechoslovakia when the person who I was following ended up getting stuck on a hill near Pilsen. Before we had even started putting the snow chains on a Czech Army half track appeared and towed us all to the top of the hill.
There was no night heater in that wagon and I used to think that I was lucky if I could pick up a weak signal from Radio Luxemburg or Radio Free Europe late at night but it was still a very pleasant experience driving through the Bohemian winter countryside.

I hope this brings back a couple of memories for some of you lads who had similar experiences of winters in the Commie Block.

The start of the motorway just south of Prague

Regards Steve.

Well written Mushrooman! That brings back so many memories. I’m sitting in bed shivering!

I am becoming convinced that the intelligence of truck drivers is well above average. The posts on this site prove that.

Interesting research project for some University looking for publicity!

Nice one Steve! :smiley:

Hi Steve, terrific story mate, those squaddies on the eastern block were very helpful in a moment of need, I cannot match your experience
but on a lighter note I had a fuel pump go sick on me in the Brno area and I went into a Saviem factory and the foreman looked at the pump
then called a couple of men over and fitted a brand new pump, I offered to pay but they he would not accept any money, I think that it was because the other men were still watching but I finally persuaded him/them to accept a carton on Marlborough and I was well pleased, so it proves a point that they were always pleased to help and I understand that there law demands that they must not pass a broken down vehicle on the road but to stop and assist, memories eh ? Regards Fred :smiley:

Not bad Steve what with your tank and our Tony s it loks like the only thing true about the Cold War was the weather. Incidentally we re all still waiting for our Tony s second stanza, what s up kiddo Alzheimer got a grip of you,regards to all, Crow.

geoffthecrowtaylor:
Not bad Steve what with your tank and our Tony s it loks like the only thing true about the Cold War was the weather. Incidentally we re all still waiting for our Tony s second stanza, what s up kiddo Alzheimer got a grip of you,regards to all, Crow.

I didn’t write any more on the Kim saga Geoff because 1) I don’t think it’s all that interesting. 2) I can’t remember everything that happened acurately and 3) I’m not that good as a novelist.The upshot was that me and Kimberley didn’t get on all that well, all she seemed to do was talk incessently, she had a voracious appetite and ate everything in sight and she snored loud enough to wake the dead.She was a chain smoker and never had one of my ciggies out of her mouth (she could talk, eat and smoke all at the same time).If had been up to me I would have said goodbye to her when we arrived at Istanbul.However Geoffey, because you wanted to make futher progress with nice Nicky I did the brotherly thing and kept her for your sake,and if you think clearly about this bruv, Nicky kept you on a string until you got to Dover,only then,when she was safe back in the UK did she succum to your magnetic charms.It would possibly have been the same with Kim,but before we had got back into Greece I had already deemed the price too high to continue pandering to her insatiable appetites in return for possible favours later on.When we got into Italy and you loaded from the north and I from Prato I saw my chance to get free.I couldn’t load that day and had to wait until the next day,she was anxious to meet up with Nicky again and so I gave her to an English driver who leaving that evening.I never saw her again nor did I want to.Here endeth the saga.

A well written and interesting story Mushroomman, thanks for posting. It’s minus 11 and snowing here in Manitoba; so an apt Winter’s scene outside the patio door.

ChrisArbon:
A well written and interesting story Mushroomman, thanks for posting. It’s minus 11 and snowing here in Manitoba; so an apt Winter’s scene outside the patio door.

Agreed, and I had several great experiences in Czech with the locals. They were so helpful. I recall waking up one morning in a lot of snow and cold conditions with a flat battery. I got out looking for help and there was little traffic around, certainly none that looked like it could help me. I walked towards some buildings and heard voices. When I went in they greeted me and my English must have surprised them and we managed to get the message across that I needed a battery or some cables. I understood they were telling me to wait but didn’t know why. They made me coffee which anyone will tell you is a pungent brew once you leave Germany. Similar to sand and gravel in a cup, often washed down with a bottle of orange pop :stuck_out_tongue:

Soon I heard a roar of an engine and one of these blokes nipped outside, he came back in with a single cable and called for me to come. Outside was this huge Tatra tipper with 4 or 6 wheel drive. it was purring away and still not sure whether it was petrol or diesel it jolted backwards and followed us up the lane. My new mate took the jump lead and connected it to the battery while the Tatra just pushed into my front bumper. They sinalled me to start it and the DAF spun into life. Three blokes had left the comfort of their workshop to rescue me, they could have ignored me which is probably what happens to a Pole or a Czech stuck here. I passed them 3 cans of Coke and they were like my best friends.

Another time I was coming home and the weather got bad, it was on a piece of national road away from the motorways but I remember it was in a valley. I had got through some bad snow and just kept going although there were several cars and trucks partly blocking the roads. Eventually I came to a standstill when a lorry in front just lost all drive and skated into the hedge. I was quite pleased I had got this far but felt it would be unwise to carry on even if this clown got moved. Soon enough someone gave him a pull, these little Tatra tippers were so powerful or so overloaded they just didn’t lose traction. I managed to get about another 800 metres before mine decided enough was enough. I was climbing a hill the road surface was polished and mine began to spin, not surprising for a Twin Steer. I could see a restaurant sign in the distance and after realising I wasn’t blocking any road I called it a night, it was dark, cold and snowing. I walked up to the restaurant and discovered it had a hotel, sod this I was going to have a proper bed and a hot shower. It was about 11am when I returned to my truck and the sun was shining, the snow was melting and I tried to drive off, it spun a bit, until I reversed down the hill. I tried again and got to the top without any problems passing abandoned vehicles in the hedges and in dykes.

That Twin Steer was an amazing motor, it never let me down with traction apart from one time I managed to make a temporary lift axle with spansets and ratchets. I ran the centre axle onto some blocks and lowered the rear suspension. I then bound the axle with 4 spansets and raised the rear axle again, it held the second steer tyres off the road by about 2 inches, plenty enough to give me some much needed traction in Austria. A few weeks later my mate attached some chains to his DAF and used that succesfully for a few trips. Needs Must :stuck_out_tongue:

Wheel Nut:
That Twin Steer was an amazing motor, it never let me down with traction apart from one time I managed to make a temporary lift axle with spansets and ratchets. I ran the centre axle onto some blocks and lowered the rear suspension. I then bound the axle with 4 spansets and raised the rear axle again, it held the second steer tyres off the road by about 2 inches, plenty enough to give me some much needed traction in Austria. A few weeks later my mate attached some chains to his DAF and used that succesfully for a few trips. Needs Must :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s crazy, I’m currently driving an Iveco twinsteer with no mid-lift and just this morning did exactly the same to get me out of a snowy situation between Leek & Stoke, without that ‘spanset’ today there’s no way I’d have made it up those hills at stop start walking pace. (2hrs from Leek to the A500) I dropped the suspension, strapped the axle up then re-set the ride height, instand 1" mid-lift and once back on ‘just wet’ tarmac the difference is fantastic with hardly any wheelspin when pulling away.

Ross.

bigr250:

Wheel Nut:
That Twin Steer was an amazing motor, it never let me down with traction apart from one time I managed to make a temporary lift axle with spansets and ratchets. I ran the centre axle onto some blocks and lowered the rear suspension. I then bound the axle with 4 spansets and raised the rear axle again, it held the second steer tyres off the road by about 2 inches, plenty enough to give me some much needed traction in Austria. A few weeks later my mate attached some chains to his DAF and used that succesfully for a few trips. Needs Must :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s crazy, I’m currently driving an Iveco twinsteer with no mid-lift and just this morning did exactly the same to get me out of a snowy situation between Leek & Stoke, without that ‘spanset’ today there’s no way I’d have made it up those hills at stop start walking pace. (2hrs from Leek to the A500) I dropped the suspension, strapped the axle up then re-set the ride height, instand 1" mid-lift and once back on ‘just wet’ tarmac the difference is fantastic with hardly any wheelspin when pulling away.

Ross.

A simple air dump valve on the non-driven axle would be a cheap way of transferring weight to the drive axle. Not as good as a lift axle, admittedly: the weight of the “dead” axle and its springs would be left on the road, rather than being added to the load on the drive wheels. Nevertheless, if the non driven axle normally grosses about 6t, then dumping its air will add another 5t or so onto the drive wheels. What is the cost of specifying a lift axle?

[zb]
anorak:
A simple air dump valve on the non-driven axle would be a cheap way of transferring weight to the drive axle. Not as good as a lift axle, admittedly: the weight of the “dead” axle and its springs would be left on the road, rather than being added to the load on the drive wheels. Nevertheless, if the non driven axle normally grosses about 6t, then dumping its air will add another 5t or so onto the drive wheels. What is the cost of specifying a lift axle?

The cost was clearly too much for whoever specced’ my truck new in 2006, & as you say, a dump valve would be better than nothing but whilst empty, the middle axle only had about 3 tons on it so not too much air pressure for the spanset to handle but the difference it made was unbelievable!!

Ross.

bigr250:
The cost was clearly too much for whoever specced’ my truck new in 2006, & as you say, a dump valve would be better than nothing but whilst empty, the middle axle only had about 3 tons on it so not too much air pressure for the spanset to handle but the difference it made was unbelievable!!

Ross.

I suspect the manufacturers would rather sell the much more expensive full-lift facility on “dead” axles, even though a simple air dump would only cost about a tonne in imposed drive axle load. It is easier to sell something that the buyer can see working. I once quoted a bloke a cheap price to fit a such a valve, solenoid-operated by a switch in the cab. I had never done the job before, but, apart from ensuring that the wire from the fuse box is protected from damage (short-circuits and litigation being the main risks!), it would have been a doddle to do. He did not place the order, possibly because he simply did not “trust” that such a simple device would give about 80% of the benefit of a vastly more expensive and complex solution. Idiots and their money are often more difficult to separate than we might think!

Ah well, Tony How are the Mighty Fallen tell it not in the streets of Ashkelon. In retrospect it matters not whether you won or lost but how you played the Game,and it really was agame was nt it. I hope thats satisfied your curiosity Fred and maybe one day another event in similar vein may spring to mind. Cheers everyone and now back to Ludlam. Crow.

Hi all, just spoke with Chris on telephone, he is well, totally compas mentas, going for another scan next week.
dave