Astran / Middle East Drivers

What a brilliant site {z.b.} anorak :smiley: , I have just spent the last four hours looking through it and there are loads of photos that I have never seen before. I hope that Viktor won’t mind me putting a few of his photos on here as I am sure that there are some of them that will bring lots of comments like these two for example.

baumaschinenbilder.de/forum/ … =0&page=70

newmercman:
Right, now some M/E pics :smiley:

The pictures are all from Keith the Thief :wink:

Well done Keith :smiley: I bet we are all pleased that you arrived home safely, many thanks for the report and the great photos .

Saudi Arabia isn’t all flat, these are the mountains near the Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina, non Muslims have to use a different road than Muslims

Loads more to come, but you can have these for now :wink:

Now I wonder if this would work in the U.K., motorways for non Muslims and A roads for everybody else :confused: .

Regards Steve.

The motorways would be empty Steve :open_mouth: :laughing:

bullitt:
Hello all, great to see this thread is still going. Cant believe it was almost seven years ago when I first started it and now at 163 pages!!!

I see there are some new contributors, all the stories are still great reading!

Its good to know that the Brits are still getting down that way, enjoyed Keith the Thiefs tale of his latest jaunt.

cheers all, Bullitt.

Hello Rick, where have you been for the last eight months :confused: writing about your memories in the Yugoslav wars I hope. So when is your book ā€œA Bullitt In The Balkansā€ coming out :smiley: .

O.K. tin hat, bullet proof vest, Tacksi .

Regards Steve.

newmercman:
The motorways would be empty Steve :open_mouth: :laughing:

Just like the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, How about if we made the M25 anticlockwise for Muslims and clockwise for us whilst still driving on the left of course.

Count me in for that Malc :wink:

This is racist talk boys don t think it will go down very well in Bradford or Southall to mention just a couple but I have to agree wonder if we ll need TIR Carnets for UK deliveries soon. Crow.

Great picures Keith,when I went to Egypt I went the easy way. Ferry boat from Pireaus to Alexandria then drive down the Nile delta road to Cairo.Did you have to register the truck on Egyptian plates at the border? it’s a long time ago when I went there and I had to get Egyptian number plates on the truck,all done through the agent who was Thomas Cook

Speaking of Thomas Cook, they ran an overland freight service to the M/E, there were a few trailers around with their name on the sides, does anyone know who ran the lorries that pulled them :question:

BTW, that German site is a pretty good find [zb] Anorak. Found a picture of an MAN with Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Khyber Pass and New Dehli signwritten on the front panel, can’t remember if it was Austrian or Swiss, not many went to India, so it’s a real find, if you’re into that sort of thing :wink:

There is also an Eastern Bloc section on the same site, with plenty of ME-bound traffic on it: baumaschinenbilder.de/forum/ … 6a6&page=1

newmercman:
Found a picture of an MAN with Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Khyber Pass and New Dehli signwritten on the front panel, can’t remember if it was Austrian or Swiss, not many went to India, so it’s a real find, if you’re into that sort of thing :wink:

Hi newmercman!

The M.A.N belongs to the german company ā€œHartgeā€.

Best wishes!
Unterflur

newmercman:
Speaking of Thomas Cook, they ran an overland freight service to the M/E, there were a few trailers around with their name on the sides, does anyone know who ran the lorries that pulled them :question:

BTW, that German site is a pretty good find [zb] Anorak. Found a picture of an MAN with Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Khyber Pass and New Dehli signwritten on the front panel, can’t remember if it was Austrian or Swiss, not many went to India, so it’s a real find, if you’re into that sort of thing :wink:

Being a temperate & good Methodist and now living in the birthplace of Thomas Cook, there is a lot of history around the place. Thomas Cook as a company lost family control of its business in 1928. It was then owned by a French Railways Compagnie Internationale des Wagon Lits

During the war, the Germans seized control of the French operation but the British Government kept hold of the British assets.

1948 The British Transport Commission’s Road Haulage Executive included brands such as Pickfords, Wordie, Carter Paterson, and Hays Wharf Cartage. These later formed the basis of British Road Services.

In 1953 the public operating company BRS (Pickfords) Limited is established.

1962 The British Transport Commission is abolished.

A Transport Holding Company was established for BRS, the Tilling (Buses) Group, Scottish Buses, Road Freight Shipping Services, Thomas Cook and Sons Ltd. There were also a number of other companies contained within the Holding Company that had joint bus services with local authorities.

1964 The BTC’s Road Haulage Executive becomes British Road Services after the break of up the British Transport Commission. Thomas Cook is now in control of the Transport Holding Company.

1969 British Road Services becomes the National Freight Corporation as a global logistics & moving services company.

1969 Freightliner Ltd is transferred from British Rail to the National Freight Corporation and becomes their Freightliner Division. The Sundries Division of British Rail is also transferred to the National Freight Corporation to become their National Freight Carriers division.

The NFC, composed of Freightliners Ltd, (which had been operating since 1965) and National Carriers Ltd (NCL), was to take over the total assets of BR’s collection and delivery service, the subsidiary companies within the Transport Holding Company, and BRS. On 1st January 1969, NCL Ltd and Freightliners Ltd joined the NFC which by 1975 controlled approximately 60 companies, nearly 1,000 depots and 25,000 vehicles.

In 1971 a nationalised asset was also lost when the NFC sold the Atlantic Steam Navigation Company; the British Railways Board was interested in acquiring the company, but the Government had other ideas and sold it to European Ferries.

In 1972 Thomas Cook was privatised and sold for £22.5 million to a consortium comprising the Midland Bank, the Automobile Association and Trust House Forte Ltd. Subsequently, Midland Bank acquired sole control during 1977. However, since US banking laws prohibited any national banks from owning travel agencies, the US operations were sold to Dun & Bradstreet in 1975.

Thomas Cook had a presence in the Emirates with this crowd.

alrostamanigroup.ae/sites/en … stone.aspx

Well done Malc, but who pulled their trailers :laughing:

Unterflur:

newmercman:
Found a picture of an MAN with Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Khyber Pass and New Dehli signwritten on the front panel, can’t remember if it was Austrian or Swiss, not many went to India, so it’s a real find, if you’re into that sort of thing :wink:

Hi newmercman!

The M.A.N belongs to the german company ā€œHartgeā€.

Best wishes!
Unterflur

Ahh, German, not a million miles away from Austria or Switzerland then, so I was close :laughing:

That is an excellent website, I’ve spent a good few hours looking through it in the last day :sunglasses: A

As you have a better grasp of English than I do of German, do you think you could ask F700 Mack if I could post a few of his pictures up on here please :question: :wink:

Trucks for motorways A roads for everyone else,that’s more like it

newmercman:

Unterflur:

newmercman:
Found a picture of an MAN with Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Khyber Pass and New Dehli signwritten on the front panel, can’t remember if it was Austrian or Swiss, not many went to India, so it’s a real find, if you’re into that sort of thing :wink:

Hi newmercman!

The M.A.N belongs to the german company ā€œHartgeā€.

Best wishes!
Unterflur

Ahh, German, not a million miles away from Austria or Switzerland then, so I was close :laughing:

That is an excellent website, I’ve spent a good few hours looking through it in the last day :sunglasses: A

As you have a better grasp of English than I do of German, do you think you could ask F700 Mack if I could post a few of his pictures up on here please :question: :wink:

I asked him and he said ā€œOKā€! :smiley:

Thank you Unterflur, send me thanks to F700 Mack too :wink:

I’ll get onto it asap :sunglasses:

newmercman:
Thank you Unterflur, send me thanks to F700 Mack too :wink:

I’ll get onto it asap :sunglasses:

Mack F700 on LKW Stefan Forum posts on here as orientmack, I think. Try sending a PM.

I sent one of these photos to Orientmack a few years ago on another thread but I don’t think that I have shown both of these on this thread that I took about 1982 somewhere near Samsun in Turkey.

Regards Steve.