dreva:
brenics77:
dreva:
YAWN
lmao, hero eh, we are just throwing ideas aroun and you are a child. why comment? silly boy.
why do you child
i guess your asking why do you “CALL ME A” child? dreva its all good fun, we all looking at a poss route from notrh africa, i think russia is the way, bit its all good fun. chill . jj72 sinbin etc , what do you think? peace and love. peace and love…
For once I have to agree with Dreva, 
it has all been getting a little boring with the Sudan, Russia idea’s etc… 
Having spent some time in Egypt I have to agree with Kevin it is a bit of a No No.
It is my understanding for a goods carrying vehicle you would have to put up a bond to transit Egypt as a form of temporary import tax and consequently it makes the whole thing very expensive and non-viable.
I earlier mentioned Iran and a ferry across the Arabian / Persian Gulf albeit it was a “off the top of the head idea” and I have not even researched if the ferries carry trucks. 
Most of the time this thread has been great and only had a few blips of child like nonsense………so let us all try to contribute in a constructive manner to the benefit of all who follow it……….
All the best RDF
Reddesertfox:
For once I have to agree with Dreva,Having spent some time in Egypt I have to agree with Kevin it is a bit of a No No.
It is my understanding for a goods carrying vehicle you would have to put up a bond to transit Egypt as a form of temporary import tax and consequently it makes the whole thing very expensive and non-viable.
I earlier mentioned Iran and a ferry across the Arabian / Persian Gulf
Most of the time this thread has been great and only had a few blips of child like nonsense………so let us all try to contribute in a constructive manner to the benefit of all who follow it……….
All the best RDF
Well spoken Reddessertfox ! ntc
m & c ntc:
Well spoken Reddessertfox ! ntc
Thanks NTC…….In essence and as you know, ME overland transport filled that gap between expensive Air Freight and slow Sea Freight, so from a clients point of view, if it cannot be done at a competitive price and arrive at destination quicker than Sea Freight why have it trucked or are we all getting confused…
All the best and keep well…RDF 
I thought , but am not totaly sure that trip tcys covered you for egypt, i have some back in the yard , so will have a look and let you know, would have thought graham or keithy would know.?
Richmond, Trip Tyks (Carnet de Passage) cover the vehicle not the load. They ensure temp import/export and were issued by RAC, AA or equivalent Agency.
Just checked my trip tyks, they do not cover the following, iran, iraq, israel, lebanon. kenya ,egypt, india and pakistan, so as gs says it would get difficult, as you would have to manifest and customs guarantee the load, and then also do the same for the truck and trailer.
Reddesertfox:
m & c ntc:
Well spoken Reddessertfox ! ntcThanks NTC…….In essence and as you know, ME overland transport filled that gap between expensive Air Freight and slow Sea Freight, so from a clients point of view, if it cannot be done at a competitive price and arrive at destination quicker than Sea Freight why have it trucked or are we all getting confused…
All the best and keep well…RDF
Yes Red, this thread did seem to be going off track by a long way 
. I am surprised that nobody has suggested driving overland to Cape Town and then putting the truck onto a ship to Oman .
Have you heard anything about a stronger military presence escorting the convoy across Syria from where you are ?
And did anybody ever enquire about that Astran driver who took the guy from The B.B.C. down to The Middle East as I would of liked to hear those radio programmes.
Regards Steve.
Hey Steve, be careful ……….UK to Oman via CPT……. Some may think you are serious. 
A stronger military presence for the escorts across Syria, Mmmmm… I have not heard anything albeit I was down at the fruit and veg market on Friday here in KW and there were plenty of Lesbianese registered vehicles there ….I bet Astran Kev will be monitoring the Syrian thing, and he will probably know more.
Another point worth mentioning is that the Turks are still entering Iraq, again Kev could be the man to see if any of them are in transit, if so another angle could be transhipping in Turkey in Iskenderun or somewhere.
TAF used to do change over trailers in Iskenderun for Iraq, but the Turks used to wreck the trailers and steel the tyres so, I consider transhipment would be a better option if it were posible.
ATVB……RDF
Mmn, just checking trip tychs for cape town/africa…lol
richmond:
Mmn, just checking trip tychs for cape town/africa…lol
If you are looking for a backload from C.T. then I might know somebody who could find you one but don’t phone him on a Friday as he might be at the fruit and veg market .
Regards Steve.
Reddesertfox:
Hey Steve, be careful ……….UK to Oman via CPT……. Some may think you are serious.A stronger military presence for the escorts across Syria, Mmmmm…
Another point worth mentioning is that the Turks are still entering Iraq, again Kev could be the man to see if any of them are in transit, if so another angle could be transhipping in Turkey in Iskenderun or somewhere.
TAF used to do change over trailers in Iskenderun for Iraq, but the Turks used to wreck the trailers and steel the tyres so, I consider transhipment would be a better option if it were posible.
ATVB……RDF
Hi RDF
You are correct!! I am monitoring Syria very closely. We heard from Phil Mac, who entered Sunday, that the convoy was running during the day with an ■■■■■■. This morning he messaged that at Hamas, he had passed 100 tanks and now been given an emergency phone number as the ■■■■■■ has now left him to it!!! We are all crossing our fingers that he has no other problems !!
With regard to Iraq, we still do not think that it is possible to transit?? and also it isnt that safe through there either!!!
Kevin……Thanks for that update and I know, all the readers will hope that the driver gets through safely…
Apart from that, it will save anyone planning a trip to Doha via Cape Town and Muscat…………
The last thing South Africa needs, is loads of Colonials in there again….
Oh by the way, the Astan Truck made it to South Africa along with Ashleys Book…It was quite a fast trip…
ATVB…RDF
mushroomman:
Reddesertfox:
m & c ntc:
Well spoken Reddessertfox ! ntcThanks NTC…….In essence and as you know, ME overland transport filled that gap between expensive Air Freight and slow Sea Freight, so from a clients point of view, if it cannot be done at a competitive price and arrive at destination quicker than Sea Freight why have it trucked or are we all getting confused…
All the best and keep well…RDF
Yes Red, this thread did seem to be going off track by a long way
Have you heard anything about a stronger military presence escorting the convoy across Syria from where you are ?
And did anybody ever enquire about that Astran driver who took the guy from The B.B.C. down to The Middle East as I would of liked to hear those radio programmes.Regards Steve.
dont you mean steve when radio 4 i think did a charity auction for breakfast in babylon.one of peterleas trucks took an old boy down there who won the auction the driver was lawrence kiely got the mag somewhere.it wasnt long after or it was during the time when that times reporter farsan basoff was killed by the iraqis for spying.think thats how you spell his name 
Astran Syrian Update
Phil "The Guinea pig " McEverley has made it through Syria!!
He said apart from seeing tanks, soldiers and snipers aroud Hamas and Homs, it wasn`t a problem!!
I wonder how much foam is left on his seat!!! 
Wheel Nut:
Wasn’t the reason for the Brits getting much of the work originally because Hungarocamion couldn’t get them. I seem to remember something where Hungarocamion employed some British drivers just to service a contract.
Perhaps the same lot that drove for Uzun Arac?
Hungarocamion had a daughter co./joint-venture in Iran, IMT (Iran Majaristan Transport?), blue MB NGs on IR plates with IR drivers.
Gulf Europa was another of Hungarocamion’s “brands”, j-v with a Kuwaiti co., F88s pulling Eylert or Blumhardt fridges, not sure where the trucks were registered or who drove them (doubt Arabs did).
Apart from Grad Linz they also (part-) owned Peklar Wien and Eurocar Trieste, AT/IT regs and drivers.
Transcamion and Hungaromosa were yet another ones, HU plates and drivers
HomoFaber:
Wheel Nut:
Wasn’t the reason for the Brits getting much of the work originally because Hungarocamion couldn’t get them. I seem to remember something where Hungarocamion employed some British drivers just to service a contract.Perhaps the same lot that drove for Uzun Arac?
Hungarocamion had a daughter co./joint-venture in Iran, IMT (Iran Majaristan Transport?), blue MB NGs on IR plates with IR drivers.
Gulf Europa was another of Hungarocamion’s “brands”, j-v with a Kuwaiti co., F88s pulling Eylert or Blumhardt fridges, not sure where the trucks were registered or who drove them (doubt Arabs did).
Apart from Grad Linz they also (part-) owned Peklar Wien and Eurocar Trieste, AT/IT regs and drivers.
Transcamion and Hungaromosa were yet another ones, HU plates and drivers
I must have been mistaken or misinformed. I used to load waste out of the British Lending Library on Thorpe Arch and there were often Hungarocamion lorries in there. I am not sure if that is where the story came from. Another big job was from a book printers in Bridlington.
Anyway, it is good news that Phil Mc has got through Syria and leads from the front again!
dreva:
mushroomman:
Reddesertfox:
m & c ntc:
Well spoken Reddessertfox ! ntcThanks NTC…….In essence and as you know, ME overland transport filled that gap between expensive Air Freight and slow Sea Freight, so from a clients point of view, if it cannot be done at a competitive price and arrive at destination quicker than Sea Freight why have it trucked or are we all getting confused…
All the best and keep well…RDF
Yes Red, this thread did seem to be going off track by a long way
Have you heard anything about a stronger military presence escorting the convoy across Syria from where you are ?
And did anybody ever enquire about that Astran driver who took the guy from The B.B.C. down to The Middle East as I would of liked to hear those radio programmes.Regards Steve.
dont you mean steve when radio 4 i think did a charity auction for breakfast in babylon.one of peterleas trucks took an old boy down there who won the auction the driver was lawrence kiely got the mag somewhere.it wasnt long after or it was during the time when that times reporter farsan basoff was killed by the iraqis for spying.think thats how you spell his name
No Dreva, I meant if anybody had made any enquires to The B.B.C. about getting a copy of the programmes that were made about an Astran driver who took a guy from The B.B.C. down to The Middle East as I would of liked to hear those programmes.
Hi Kev
Nice to hear Phil has made it through Syria ,Yes I can imagine Iraq could still be dodgy ,Must be like dodging the bullits and shells when I went through Basra one trip when Iraq was having a ding dong with Iran,but at least you knew what was going on ,Syria has always been a dodgy place ,including their driving they never knew which side of the road to drive left or right even on duel carrigeways they drove on the wrong side, the convoy must be a nightmare, then to be left on his own without ■■■■■■ ,takes a brave man ,hats off to him and all that still do the job.
Roger Haywood