Astran / Middle East Drivers

freshir:

where r u:

freshir:
Re: Eddie, I spoke with Ed about 3 months ago, he phoned me completely out of the blue and I was completely surprised but very pleased to hear from him, he was going to contact Mick Bryant - Bobbie Power - Roy Hopkins to arrange a ‘meet’ so I will have to give him a nudge - all we would have to do is to find MILK-BAR somewhere suitable for
everyone. Don’t know if you knew Len Humphries but he phone me about a month ago he’s 83 now and living in Cornwall, there’s a man to sit and talk to about his experiences down the Gulf, smashing bloke, he could kid a duck off of a pond with a bucket of water, he lived for the day and never worried about tomorrow you never got bored with Len’s stories although you had been there got the ‘T’ shirt it was always good to hear his version, it’s people like this that we all miss now we are all ‘Self unemployed’ although you may still be at it. I also got a call last night from Kenny Ward one of old muckers, he calls me a couple of times a year, So if there is anyone out there who borrowed money off of me get in touch asap - Seasons greetings to everyone out there and wishing you all a great 2011 - Regards Fred

AND WILL THE LAST DRIVER OUT OF BELGIUM PLEASE TURN THE LIGHTS OUT

fred talking about borrowed money, do you remember the time (seeing mick bryant,s name there) you paid a spainish fine for him,he had a dodgy permit,so to get going you paid it on your credit card,dont remember if your credit card was dodgy!!! did you get your money back? top of summer seairas on route to madrid,think it was armdal out of swords ireland. lenny humphries worked with eddie mulk. what that bloke knew about our game is a book in it;s self

Hi - Yes I got paid ok when I got back no prob: there but what a way to run a company , can you imagine a certain person who processed the paper work running M/E operation ? I paid the fine for Mick 'cos it was a case of getting moving - I saved Tony getting a plane to come and sort it out and what did I get for it xxxx all - When we amalgamated and that person came into our office and prepared my first CMR,s etc; would you beleive it = I was asked to sign the CMR - and I then explained the document and who should have what ect: So to change the subject, are you in touch with any of the old faces? would be interesting to know = nobody seem to know what happened to Mick Gordon, I heard that he had throat cancer, chow for now - Fred

your right fred, we said bring back chris hardwick all is forgiven. i heard chris had died,dont know if it is true,if it is then r.i.p. chris. sorry about micky gordon. p.s saw pete ramsey couple of years back he said bob power had a bad accident (machine fell on him while working for grady at southall) and will never work again.

Hi - Chris Hardwick had a heart attack on the road in Luxembourge, I will never for get that day as it was my wedding anniversary 27 MAY 2009 and I had a phone call within hours as I was passing Clackets outbound, what a great manager he was, he operated domestic and M/E with one hand, I first met him in 76 when he was driving for a small time operator named Taylor out of Sunbury on Thames. Sadly missed (RIP) Don’t know too much about the rest of the drivers but I will phone Eddie later, what happened to Ralphy and Tipex Lynn ? have they still got the pub? Cheers for now - Fred

carl jarman:
Hi freshir
I notice from a previous post thatn you drove for Wellams of Fleetwood, a friend of mine ,Pete Lynch, did a few trips for them, you may have known him. I wrote an article on his trips to the M/E which was featured in the May 2010 issue of Truck and Driver magazine, here are a few photos from the article
Carl

Hi Carl - thanks for your post - teriffic pic’s - I never drove for Welham,s but I did a couple of trips for them about 76, I had my M.A.N painted in their colours too but I should have checked them out better as there was a lack of experience in the office, they failed to load me back and had me moving homebound a day at a time hoping to get me loaded back and of coourse I lost out in the end, as I remember there was a chap in the office named Fagen who lived at Ramsbotton in the Penines who was sent to the Londra with some funds for a driver who had run out of running money but he and the money dissapeared (Most unusual eh?) When I heard about this I decided enough is enough bye bye - Regards Fred. H



I came across this Swiss transcon on the Tapline One December Day, around 78/79. I never found out what had happened or if the driver was lucky enough to survive. About two hundred Ks further on i met some swiss drivers on their way home and told them to look out for him. Maybe one for Ferdy to tell us about.
Regards Jamie.

A Scot lost in the Valley’s.

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Jesus, what a mess. WTF happened to that??

As you say, maybe ferdy at Toprun could shed some light or mabe even some of TN`s own ex M/E men if they still pop in here now and again.

Bloody awful that, I hope the driver got out but suspect not looking at the carnage :cry:

If i remember rightly there was a black oil tanker also involved, which ended up on the opposite side of the road where it had been pushed after being hit from behind. By the time i had stopped and taken those photo’s the police had arrived and ordered me to drive on. They would not give me any information about the drivers or what had happened it was very frustrating not being allowed to do anything to help. regards Jamie.

A Scot Lost in the Valley’s.

I remember being in Ramtha just after I’d got my new Transcon,and met an o/d hitching his way home after rolling his Transcon on the tapline.
He made the mistake of thinking the tapline was a straight line ALL the way down,until he met one of the few bends…

A likely looking pair!

Thought some might be interested to see 2 old so and so’s recovering from Christmas. On the left, and looking worryingly young is Kenny Ward and on the right myself, not looking so, at Kenny’s place where I spent a wonderful Christmas this year thanks to his long-suffering wife Susan.

Kenny is off back to Abu Dhabi to pick up his motor and I am back to doing what I do now. It’s been great to find this site again - I was a member a few years ago and had forgotten about it till Ken reminded me. Really surprised myself be remembering my password!

So Happy New Year to you all and it’s great to see such notables as ‘Oven Ready’ Freddy and Ray Smith here - glad to see we are all still breathing, though sadly so many of our dear friends are not, and lets make it our New Year resolution to all try to do that for a bit longer yet!

David

Hi David. Great to see you back in circulation, could not believe it when I opened up the post, and Kenny has still got that old suit that I gave him. Fondest regards- have a great 2011- Fred H and the management sends her regards too - keep in touch

come on fred tell us how you got that nickname (oven ready freddy) something to do with a load of chicken you took down the gulf in a fridge, grangewood i think.

The secretary made a typo on the CMR: put a +20C instead of -20C & the rest is his story. :laughing:

The incident in question happened about 82’ish I have sat back and had a laugh at how a situation gets completely twisted along the line, it has gone from Doha to Damman and I think that it has shown up in Timbuckthree - If you are all sitting back comfortably then Il’l begin - It was a cold and dark foggy night - I was homeward bound having loaded pig fat (Lard) in Gdansk - I had done my transit doc’s at Helmstatt and parked up and went for a bit of ‘nosh’ at the Imbiss, there were also two brit reefers also parked up but I kept my own company as this particular outfit who must remain nameless had in the past tried to undercut Grangewood’s. I was running at +2 so as not to oil up the Autobahn. This load was going to a paint factory in S.E.Londonshire, and when I opened up the load smelt warm and along came ‘jobsworth’ who immediately proved his status by checking the temp which was at +12 but I broke down in tears (Like you would ! ) and we became good buddies when I promised to leave him in my will. But looking back it was obvious that my temp gauge was tinkered with at Helmstatt, fortunately it was not a drama as the load explaines itself but it could have been serious if the load had been foodstuffs, We had a kid in our office who loved creating nicknames and he created the
‘Oven ready Freddy’ label and there was a clerk that he referred to as ‘BUSBY’ because he was always on the phone - All good fun I suppose - Regards to all - and wishing you all a fab 2011 - Phred.

I first heard the story from ex-Grange driver on the Marsielles /Algeria ferry. The driver had emigrated to the US & then returned to UK with his family- good bloke, Londoner.

bullitt:
Hi there Steve, thanks for posting that. i looked at the pic before I read the text and I thought straight away, " I bet that`s Stan!!" :laughing: :laughing:

I cant believe how much younger he looks there,when would that have been taken, early 80`s maybe, …
Merry Christmas to you and yours :wink:

Hi bullitt, that photo was taken in 1982 or 83 after Stan had written off his Foden in the winter while transiting Czecho. The people in the photo were (from left to right) Barry Longden, Stan Warmbold, Wayne Heathcote, Terry (Brummie) Smailes and Eric Etchells.

Barry Longden phoned me on Christmas day, it’s always good to have a natter with him and he is very well I am glad to say. He sent me this photo of himself, Jimmy Walker, Eric Etchells
and Pat Searls R.I.P.
That looks like a bit of Terry Smith on the left of the picture which I think might have been taken at Jimmy Baegents retirement party, R.I.P. Jim.

Here’s hoping that everybody on Trucknet has a great and prosperous New Year :smiley: .

Best regards Steve.

Firstly a very happy New Year to one and all.

As I mentioned in my last post I was, a few years back, a regular member of this excellent forum but then a combination of work and getting rather disheartened by a heavy bought of squabbling that all got pretty nasty I sort of stopped visiting. Fortunately Kenny Ward reminded me of its existence so I am back to plague you all.

I have spent 2 happy days reading this section of the board from the beginning — it had not started when I was last here — and am now much better informed but I have noticed a few points that were very interesting and, although they are now old threads, they bear comment. Please let us be clear that I am not having a go at anyone at all just commenting on things that have been written and I did not make a note of who the posters were so I apologise for not giving them the credit due.

The first thing, I suppose, is the whole Astran question. They were, without doubt, a great firm and they were probably — I say probably because I am not 100% convinced — the first British hauliers to do the Middle East but they weren’t the first by a long way. In Ashleigh’s excellent book there is a photo of the first trip in the Big J parked alongside 2 wagons from Iran — those old Volvos and Vabis’s with short trailers and the whole lot on 24” wheels and tyres, Shams Express and so on — that had been regular visitors to Germany since the early 60’s until the time that the Shah was deposed. You could always find them clustered like swallows around the customs in Munich waiting for back loads. Also it is stated in a thread that “Bottom line — If Astran sent you out on a trip paperwork would not be a problem” Now I know that was true because I worked for an Astran subbie as my first Middle East job but does it justify their present Saintly status? I worked for 3 ‘fleet’ companies in my time — Oryx, Altrex and Grangewood — and it was equally true of all of them; never a problem of any kind. But do not get me wrong, I think that Ash was dead write to write his book about them simply because basing it on the records of one company gives it a consistency that stories of any or all of us would not have had — you have only to look at how peoples recollections of the same subject vary here.

Another Astran question was raised here as well. Just why did Astran and their subbies have so many accidents? There was a time when the wrecks seemed to be everywhere — even one in the middle of H4 though what in the World he found to hit there I have no idea. Also they seemed to have a lot of mechanical issues, even on the Destination Doha they were messing around with trailer brakes first day out. That never happened on any of the 3 big ‘uns that I worked for and neither were there any accidents at all on any of them.
Picture of the H4 one — whatever he hit he did a good job. Anybody know the details?

There was a question about the truth of the’ St Michael label in underpants in Saudi’ rumour. There was certainly a rumour around at the same time that the Saudis made us produce a Baptism Certificate with our Visa applications to prove that we were not of a Jewish persuasion (and that is definitely true). Those of us, like me, that had not been Baptised had to get a letter from a Vicar stating that we were OK. It did not last long but it certainly was the case at one time and I cut the labels out of my M&S shreddies just to be on the safe side though they were never inspected!

There are various comments about spot lights being smashed by Saudi Soldiers that are also dead true but the object of their objection was not the lamps as such but the Halogen bulbs they contained. I was on Altrex the first time it happened to me; I was somewhere between Jeddah and Riyadh (multi-drop load, lucky me) when I was stopped in a control. The Soldiers disappeared down in front of the motor and then appeared again holding up their small fingers and gibbering. I got out and went round the front and they were crouched down shading their eyes with their hands, peering into the headlights and then making this gesture with their little fingers. I was at a complete loss to understand what they were on about so one Soldier made it easy for me and smashed the glass of both headlights and triumphantly indicated the Halogen bulbs within. I was told that one of the Royal Princelets had been killed on a motorcycle when he crashed dazzled by oncoming headlights that turned out to contain Halogen bulbs so the Palace banned both Motorcycles and Halogen bulbs, instructing the Soldiers to confiscate them when found. All well and good but there I was 7,000 kilometres from home with no head lights or spotlights. Handy!

In another thread it is stated that someone called Tony Baker was the original ‘Animal’. That is definitely not true. The first, and for me the only, Animal was my dear friend Pat Seal so named when he worked for Simon International driving a red MAN with column change which he loathed. I met him on my first trip at the Mocamp when I was driving the yellow and blue Scammel Crusader for John Ellingham and we were friends thereafter. I am happy to say that I made it to his funeral although I could not stay for the wake because I was required in Holland on a job. Really great turnout and at least we gave him a good send-off on his last trip. RIP Pat.
Nice story about Pat. I was on Altrex and they needed a driver and Pat was trying to get the money together to make roadworthy the Volvo that he had brought from Comart so I told them that I had the right bloke for the job. I had to go to the UK so I set about finding him and, by luck, he had just, that afternoon, got back from a trip with Simons so he simply chucked his gear in my motor and came back to Holland with me. We had to go to the office so that the 2 bosses could meet their new driver and Altrex was a very smart outfit indeed with million dollar offices near Rotterdam Airport full of pot plants and film start secretaries. So we stroll in to this rarefied atmosphere and only then did it occur to me that the last shower that Pat had had was in the National in Beograd! The 2 bosses had all glass offices and they looked like a pair of goldfish with their mouths open looking at Pat. Finally they sent for me and asked “who is this that you have brought to our Office?” I told them that it was the best driver that they would ever employ and so they did but on the basis that if he were no good then I went as well. Needless to say I kept my job and we even managed to nick the back axle from the wrecked F88 at Hofar Al Batin on the tapline and get it home under an Altrex trailer to replace the dead diff in the Comart motor!

In another thread there is a photo of a young lady who is said to be the wife of Tyrone Jarvis from Collumpton. Now I don’t think that was right but it reminded me of Tyrone who was an owner driver who was around for a while with a blue Daf 2200. He was a truly weird beggar who had been in one of the more extreme regiments of the British Army and, as such, fancied himself as bit of a scrapper. At that time John E had obtained some dodgy German Permits which turned out to be Road / Rail permits so, for a couple of trips, I had to go on the train and on one occasion shared a sleeper compartment with 2 blokes plus this Tyrone Jarvis. Anyway we took a few beers aboard, eventually got to bed and when we arrived — Fredrichshaven wasn’t it? — the Jarvis fella was still asleep so I gave him a shake. Well I can only describe it like a Tom and Gerry cartoon; he launched himself out of the top bunk swinging punches, landed face down still swinging punches, leapt up and smacked one of these two other blokes right in the mouth. A small altercation ensued and when the dust had settled and apologies had been given and received he informed us that we had to be very careful how we woke him up because he was a trained killer of men and he always dreamt of being in battle and therefore woke up wanting a fight! I took good care never to share a cabin with him ever again and took off out of the train station like a scalded Meerkat and did not stop till I got to the National! Who needs that problem?

Anyhow I have wittered on for long enough and I apologise if it has been too long but I just wanted to comment on what I had read.

All the best to everybody.

David.

Hullo David,
A real top class posting that is mate. A joy to read. Thank you. A Happy new year to you, and if you are speaking to Ken over this holiday, wish him a Happy new year from me too.
Cheers, Archie.

Thank you Archie, very kind of you.

I’ll give your regards to our Kenny.

All the best,
David

Brilliant Dave - 100% with you on raising a few touchy subjects - I have not been on this forum too long and like you I took a few days catching up with the interesting posts that mentioned some old names and places and I was silently critical of some of the subjects and statements raised, I also read Ashleys book with great interest and like you I wondered how anyone could of had so many incidents, I had a littlte chuckle towards the latter chapters in the book when reading that our old mate ‘Snowy’ (RIP) had 14 punctures in one trip wow that is more than KENNING’S get in a month I imagine. Good luck and wishing everyone on the TN a happy and healthy 2011 - Fred

David, many thanks for posting some more M/E memories, its always great to read them, please keep them coming. :wink:

And to all who have contributed to this thread, many, many thanks, your memories and pictures are a goldmine from a bye gone era, sadly never to be repeated :frowning:

Thanks for keeping it alive and may it continue through 2011 :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

Happy New Year :wink: :wink: :wink: