Astran / Middle East Drivers

rondavies:

newmercman:
It also has no number plates, on the back at least, that’d save Dow a few bob when they re registered it as new the folowing year :laughing:

Isn’t that a numberplate just showing above and to the left of the hammer laying on the spare wheel?
rgds Ron

That was a little ■■■■ take on my part, they (Dow) got into a spot of bother over running lorries in their fleet for a year and then selling them as new, or something like that, I never noticed the number plate, but, you’re right it is there as clear as day, I’m getting old too you know, so you’ll have to make allowances for me, like Franz the roof is loosing a bit of insulation, although my nostrils and ears appear to be compensating for it :cry: :laughing:

And it is definitely a MAN, F10/12s never had a cut out for the wing in the door and they had a one piece side window, also the back panel had a single window or blank in the middle, the MANs had two, maybe Fred’s nostril hairs are getting in his eyes :open_mouth: :laughing: :wink:

I stand corrected, poor old Fred - did you know that today is = “Lets have a go at Fred day” ? Anymore having a go at Fred and i’ll let my Chihuahua loose on yer. In an earlier post I placed a foto of a team of drivers thinking that it would interest someone on the forum but to my surprise I had no response - Perhaps they were all too clean and polished on the occasion and nobody recognised them eh ? The taller blonde chap has been mentioned on the forum earlier Bernie Bartels (RIP) aka ‘Zwei Metre Funf’ a terrific mate sadly missed.
Regards to all - Fred


You’ll never get that in there mate

freshir:
I just wondered if any one out there would like to have a guess at these likely lads and name the company it was an unfortunate sombre occasion that bought the full team together, they are all well established M/E lads, I shall leave the photo on here for a few days as I am sure someone would like to have a crack at naming them, or perhaps they may owe you money !! Regards Fred H

well fred thats you 5th from left (with the shade’s) dont know the firm ,but it’s not concorde. that lot are to good looking

freshir:
I stand corrected, poor old Fred - did you know that today is = “Lets have a go at Fred day” ? Anymore having a go at Fred and i’ll let my Chihuahua loose on yer. In an earlier post I placed a foto of a team of drivers thinking that it would interest someone on the forum but to my surprise I had no response - Perhaps they were all too clean and polished on the occasion and nobody recognised them eh ? The taller blonde chap has been mentioned on the forum earlier Bernie Bartels (RIP) aka ‘Zwei Metre Funf’ a terrific mate sadly missed.
Regards to all - Fred


You’ll never get that in there mate

I think all the Astrans boys are on another site now, with the exception of RDF, they’ve all disappeared :cry:

where r u:

freshir:
I just wondered if any one out there would like to have a guess at these likely lads and name the company it was an unfortunate sombre occasion that bought the full team together, they are all well established M/E lads, I shall leave the photo on here for a few days as I am sure someone would like to have a crack at naming them, or perhaps they may owe you money !! Regards Fred H

well fred thats you 5th from left (with the shade’s) dont know the firm ,but it’s not concorde. that lot are to good looking

The company is Grangewood’s, yer thats poor old Fred 5th left but my parting is a bit wider now and what is left of the hair is highlighted. Are you keeping well TC ?
Regards Fred

freshir:
I stand corrected, poor old Fred - did you know that today is = “Lets have a go at Fred day” ? Anymore having a go at Fred and i’ll let my Chihuahua loose on yer. In an earlier post I placed a foto of a team of drivers thinking that it would interest someone on the forum but to my surprise I had no response - Perhaps they were all too clean and polished on the occasion and nobody recognised them eh ? The taller blonde chap has been mentioned on the forum earlier Bernie Bartels (RIP) aka ‘Zwei Metre Funf’ a terrific mate sadly missed.
Regards to all - Fred

Looking at the photo more closely, I now recognise Bernie (towering above all the others…as he always did :laughing: ). We worked together on Simons. He had one of the Leyland Marathons and with the seat pushed all the way back could sit quite comfortably. I remember he had an accident on Bolu and he was locked up and the vehicle impounded. Good ol’ Taci Kocman came to the rescue and got him released and managed to get him flown out of the country (even with his vehicle reg still on the entry stamp in his passport!). That’s when having an agent like Taci really came in handy!!
I know that Bernie has passed away…what did he die of?

Anyway Fred, what was the occasion or should I say, who’s funeral were they attending?
rgds Ron


You’ll never get that in there mate

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Fred…The chap on the right looks awfully like Ned Kelly…

ATB… RDF

Reddesertfox:
Fred…The chap on the right looks awfully like Ned Kelly…

ATB… RDF

Ron - The chap on the right is David (Dusty) Miller, another nice man, he was earlier with Astrans . I ‘Think’ that he is now settled down somewhere in the Pacific isles and has a very succesful boat business, Kenny Ward visits him from time to time Fred

freshir:

Reddesertfox:
Fred…The chap on the right looks awfully like Ned Kelly…

ATB… RDF

Ron - The chap on the right is David (Dusty) Miller, another nice man, he was earlier with Astrans . I ‘Think’ that he is now settled down somewhere in the Pacific isles and has a very succesful boat business, Kenny Ward visits him from time to time Fred

freshir:

Reddesertfox:
Fred…The chap on the right looks awfully like Ned Kelly…

ATB… RDF

Ron - The chap on the right is David (Dusty) Miller, another nice man, he was earlier with Astrans . I ‘Think’ that he is now settled down somewhere in the Pacific isles and has a very succesful boat business, Kenny Ward visits him from time to time Fred

The last I heard of Dave he was running his own yacht servicing company in Palma. But looking at his website he may have moved on?
He was captain of an oil tanker before that. - an amazing bloke.

oscarsierra.com/who_we_are

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DAVID MILLER RETIRES FROM OS SAFETY
David Miller, founder and until recently Managing Director of OS Safety Equipment SL, has left the company heading for the land of early retirement and beer drinking as seen in the photo to the left.
Digging into The Islander’s early archives from July 1997 we found a little story announcing that David had left the Palma branch of Drakes chandlery to start the Mediterranean base of the leading UK marine safety company, Ocean Safety Ltd, in a premises at Cami Fondo near to IKEA, where OS are still to be found today.
Not content with that as an account of a man’s history, especially one who has been so involved in the yachting scene here for over two decades, we asked David to tell us more about his background before the Mallorca days.
Here it is in his own words:
“I went to sea just 3 months after my 16th birthday in July 1963 — the first moment that I could legally leave school. I had worked single mindedly to get only the 4 O levels that I needed to be a Deck Officer Apprentice and ignored everything else. I knew what I was going to do and what I needed to get to do it. When I joined my first ship I had always been a vegetarian, and it came as a great shock to find that not only was there only meat to eat, but also that not a single soul aboard gave a crap whether I ate it or starved! I soon got over it though.
Things were very different then, the ships, the men and the work itself. Ships were often still steam propelled, the men rough and ready and the work hard, though with amounts of time in port that today would seem like a dream. It was before containerisation, of course, and ships loaded a huge variety of cargo, normally using their own derricks, and the art of stowing such cargoes so that they did not contaminate or damage each other, respecting their weight and volume, (called stowage factor ) and having them available to be unloaded in their correct port of discharge was something to be seen. Typically this would be loading 200 different types of cargo in 7 or 8 European ports for discharge in 20 ports in the Far East, all through 5 hatches and manually stowed and secured. It was interesting to say the least!
I sat and passed my Second Mates Certificate in 1968, Chief Officer in 1970 and then my prized Masters Certificate(Foreign Going) in 1973. Armed with my new 2nd Mates I joined Cable and Wireless serving on an ocean going cable laying ship, the John W Macay. A wonderful, low stress, company which, unfortunately, got put out of the cable laying business a few years later by the advent of communication satellites. But none the less I took part in the laying of important cables that included Cala Nova to Barcelona in 1970 which was my first visit to Mallorca and the cable is still in use today. From C & W, I moved to the towing business with the Dutch and then, following the quickest route to a command, with Texaco on large tankers where I stayed until I got the silly idea that going yachting would be a good idea which, in its turn, brought me to Mallorca to live in 1989.”
Running parallel to all this David had a second career driving for his uncle’s international haulage company. The combination of the allure of the destinations that his trucks ran to, aligned with the long leaves they got in the wake of the 66 seaman’s strike was completely irresistible to a young Miller. He did his first trip to Moscow in 1969, Pakistan in 72, Saudi in 73 and just about every unlikely destination in between carrying anything from Ice Cream to Oil Rig parts to artificial Christmas Trees. David says it was, in those early years, “just the best damned job in the world.” Going on to say; “Clearly you needed to be both self-reliant and a bit of a loony…but then I was both of those and more!”
His final comments?..”So now, on the verge of retirement, I can look back and say that so far the crac has been ferocious and there is no reason to believe its over yet!”
It will come as no surprise to those who know him, but total retirement is not yet in prospect and whilst his canal barge, Jasper (above) will provide stimulus, David will be keeping his hand in as a consultant on matters maritime and especially marine fire systems.

David can be contacted on: (0044)750 928 8863

Harry - Very interesting feedback on David - The last time I was with him was when he had a ‘Deli’ in the Pavilion at Torquay, I was on hols: with my wife at the time and we looked him up and and went for a very nice meal upstairs, I knew that he had a ‘Masters Cert’ but your indepth material from his web site really amazed me but did not surprise me, He spoke perfect Dutch and he was never a person to be underated, I had the pleasure of working with him, you could not have met or known a nicer person. Regards Fred H

Hi there, have just been browsing the photos on the ‘Astran’ page of Facebook. There’s a pic of TDX 400K (left ■■■■■■) which appears to have a mirror attached to the bumper (right ahnd side), however, it doesn’t appear as though the driver will be able to see anything via this mirror unless he was wearing the very latest ‘X-Ray’ specs!!! Could someone have a look at it and explain please?

Facebook, Astran, Photos, pic 11. Thanks a million, Mitch.

freshir:
Hi Ron - I was going by the rear window, my MAN (1976) pictured with my wife and the bear (Earlier post) had a glass window to the rear with a padded interior, I also recognised the stantion supporting the air intake on the back o/s of the cab and the mudgaurd supports, I had an F12 on Grangewood’s but we are all going back a few years now and I would certainly stand corrected (For a small fee !!) Regards Fred

The rear axle is a hub reduction MAN/Mercedes type,definitely not Volvo or Scania.

Hi GS, hope you are still a member.
I read you mention Joe 90 and John Kemp in a post.
Did you know these guys?

Regards

Reddesertfox:

GS OVERLAND:
T.A.F trailers.
I remember Joe 90 used to pull those trailers down to Adana in the late eighties, wheres Joe now ?
GS

That’s right Gavin, when Jo was doing that run John Kemp was with TAF, I did 3 or 4 traction only trips for them. We use to change over in Iskenderun, and the Turks used to take the trailers through to Baghdad. The problem was when you collected the empty invariably the trailer was wrecked or the Turks had sold the tyres. So it was an easy job but with inherent problems. Not heard of or see Jo for years, but again a ■■■■ decent bloke. :confused:

hi there

my dad used to drive ALP 60 S

he worked for OHS at the time

still has photos of it too if you would like a copy let me know

scrapper:
VOLVO F89 ALP61S–Ex PIE International, was then operated by an owner driver from Preston called Tony Brownlee on Italy work and then later White Trux where it was driven by Tony Buckle(i am in contact with his son Julian). Does anyone have any pics or info/history regarding this truck?I am in the process of restoring it,many thanks Dave.

what2do:
Hi there, have just been browsing the photos on the ‘Astran’ page of Facebook. There’s a pic of TDX 400K (left ■■■■■■) which appears to have a mirror attached to the bumper (right ahnd side), however, it doesn’t appear as though the driver will be able to see anything via this mirror unless he was wearing the very latest ‘X-Ray’ specs!!! Could someone have a look at it and explain please?

Facebook, Astran, Photos, pic 11. Thanks a million, Mitch.

Mitch,

I do not use FB now, not done for a couple of years and the persistant e-mails have almost stopped now, anyway it means that i have not seen the picture you refer to.

But i suspect that you would find that there was a small ‘window’ fitted to the lower door section which allowed the driver to see the mirror. I have seen them on a number of vehicles in the past and they are still in use here in Thailand on some of the Jap motors.

Steve.

Hi marksy, yes i would like a copy please.Do you know if it was an ex PIE motor? I suspect it was,probably bought in the same batch.If you let me know how you would like to send me a copy, then i will give you the relevent details.Many thanks Dave.

@ M & C Steve, thanks for posting a reply, I thought that the world and his dog were ignoring me regarding the post. Unfortunately, you win no prizes as it definately isn’t a ‘curbside’ mirror. there isn’t a little window in the passenger door and it’s also mounted incredibly low (on the bumper). Hopefully, some of these retired long haulers will come up with the answer when the christmas brandy begins to wear off!!! Cheers Mitch.

what2do:
@ M & C Steve, thanks for posting a reply, I thought that the world and his dog were ignoring me regarding the post. Unfortunately, you win no prizes as it definately isn’t a ‘curbside’ mirror. there isn’t a little window in the passenger door and it’s also mounted incredibly low (on the bumper). Hopefully, some of these retired long haulers will come up with the answer when the christmas brandy begins to wear off!!! Cheers Mitch.

Hullo Chris “what to do”,
Like Steve, many of us don’t go onto facebook anymore, it causes more problems than that. I also thought it was a lhd nearside low mirror. The best thing to do is to copy the photograph and to put it on here, then everybody will know what you are talking about, and will no doubt comment and forward their own opinions, you also won’t feel ignored and you’ll probably have your answer before Christmas.
Cheers, Archie.

what2do:
Hi there, have just been browsing the photos on the ‘Astran’ page of Facebook. There’s a pic of TDX 400K (left ■■■■■■) which appears to have a mirror attached to the bumper (right ahnd side), however, it doesn’t appear as though the driver will be able to see anything via this mirror unless he was wearing the very latest ‘X-Ray’ specs!!! Could someone have a look at it and explain please?

Facebook, Astran, Photos, pic 11. Thanks a million, Mitch.

Hi Mitch,on looking at the said photo. It had me wondering if it was a bit of drivers Bling. I seem to remember that some of the scandinavian trucks had a narrow verticle plate mounted on the cab with the word in red letters on a white background reading from the top down ( PEWANG) or (PEHANG) or something similar which you seen when they overtook you. May be this is what it is… So come on you old ■■■■■ get your Grey Matter working and let us know.
Regards Jamie.

A Scot Lost in the Valley’s.