Hi Folks
Did anybody get the answer to where Gavins tyre shop was ■■
I cant see the answer anywhere.
I think it may be one of the villages in Doha that you see when running back to the border on the way home but got no idea what it may be called.
Give us a clue Gavin before its lost amongst a new set of photos.
dave
Well done Dave. You are right. It is Al Karanah Punchery on the Salwa road heading back to Abu Samra. The name is written in Arabic on the block wall. He had a good line of nuts and bolts for tyre patches but nothing for tubeless repairs !!
GS
Wish i was clever like you Gavin, i thought it just said “kilroy waz here”.
Did you say the prize was 1hr FREE dive lesson.
Dave.
Or The Plater Plated in Salwa in Arabic
So it’s not The Shell Garage where the dyslexic sign writer used to work .
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I’ve got a photo here of a Jenkinson truck, Trevor the driver was a good mate. At one time he went out with Penny who worked in Michel Whittles office. We did allot of work for British Aerospace. I’ll tell more about them later.
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Hello hlb, an old mate of mine who I used to work with nearly thirty years ago phones me up now and again, infact he phoned me about two weeks ago. His name is Barry Longdon and he was telling me about when he worked for Jenkinson’s in the early seventies doing Iran and Saudi as well as a lot of other places. He looks on the Trucknet site now and again so I shall ask him if he remembers somebody called Trevor. I have asked him a few times to write something on here but he finds it a lot easier to phone, bless him.
Funny enough, gb1 posted a photo of one of Jenkies tilts on page 2 of his Sales Brochure thread, so I hope that he doesn’t mind me reposting it and I hope that it may bring back a few memories for you.
Keep sending in your great photos and thanks for sharing your memories with us
Hi Folks
Did anybody get the answer to where Gavins tyre shop was ■■
I cant see the answer anywhere.
I think it may be one of the villages in Doha that you see when running back to the border on the way home but got no idea what it may be called.
Give us a clue Gavin before its lost amongst a new set of photos.
dave
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Well done Dave. You are right. It is Al Karanah Punchery on the Salwa road heading back to Abu Samra. The name is written in Arabic on the block wall. He had a good line of nuts and bolts for tyre patches but nothing for tubeless repairs !!
GS
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Wish i was clever like you Gavin, i thought it just said “kilroy waz here”.
Did you say the prize was 1hr FREE dive lesson.
Dave.
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Or The Plater Plated in Salwa in Arabic
So it’s not The Shell Garage where the dyslexic sign writer used to work .[/quote]
No Dave and Mushy, it said Al Karanah woz ere !! cant you read arabic ■■
Yes 1st prize is a 1hr FREE dive lesson.
and you need to be at the slipway way at the bottom of Dutch Alberts yard in Wapping E1, suited up by 8am sharp, Monday.
If you cant find it, call Hooperman he knows where the yard is.!!!
GS
GS OVERLAND:
Well done Dave. You are right. It is Al Karanah Punchery on the Salwa road heading back to Abu Samra. The name is written in Arabic on the block wall. He had a good line of nuts and bolts for tyre patches but nothing for tubeless repairs !!
GS
Wish i was clever like you Gavin, i thought it just said “kilroy waz here”.
Did you say the prize was 1hr FREE dive lesson.
Dave.
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Or The Plater Plated in Salwa in Arabic
So it’s not The Shell Garage where the dyslexic sign writer used to work .[/quote]
No Dave and Mushy, it said Al Karanah woz ere !! cant you read arabic ■■
Yes 1st prize is a 1hr FREE dive lesson.
and you need to be at the slipway way at the bottom of Dutch Alberts yard in Wapping E1, suited up by 8am sharp, Monday.
If you cant find it, call Hooperman he knows where the yard is.!!!
GS
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Hi Gavin, Alan Karanah, does he still do that news quiz on Radio 4 and will you supply the muffs .
What a nice looking trailer. Isn’t it a shame that when the sign writing was done the spelling wasn’t proofed.!!
They spelt Qatar wrong…QUATAR…Dipstick.
Don’t you just hate that.!
Well spotted Gavin, I must admit that it did slip my attention .
However, it has just remided me of a story that John Bruce told me while we were shopping in The Grand Bazaar over 22 years ago. Now I am a bit reluctant to mention this story because I e-mailed John about a year ago and asked him if he remembered our Grand Day Out in Istanbul with Peter The Plater and he told me that he only vaguely remembered it.
So come on Brucyboy, let’s see if you can recall telling me this .
An Astran driver on his way down to the Middle East stopped off in Istanbul to have some business cards made, with a picture of an Astran Scania with a tilt printed on them. His name, which hopefully John can remember because I can’t, was also printed on them in capital letters along with the words Middle East Transport. I think he ordered two hundred of them, paid for them in advance and was told that they would be ready for him on his return two weeks later.
On his return he was in a hurry to get up to Kapicule so he dashed into the printers and was relieved to find that the cards were ready. He threw them onto the bunk without proof reading them until he arrived at Kapicule only to find that they had put the words Moddle East Transport on them.
Can you remember this story John or does anybody know who the driver was ?
I have a strange feeling that I might regret mentioning this story but it is one that I remember John telling me.
JAWS:
Hi All
For me Death Valley was between Bolu and Ankara the piece of motorway with the large rock in the middle of the road shaped like the top of a minaret between the armco and the pay arch at the bottom I once got sent off on to the old road thankfully never again.
I have great respect for all those how used that road before the pay road was built.
Diesel Mountian between Zackho and Mosel the one with Saddam Picture in the middle of the hair pin and nearly at the bottom in the ravine on the right a German double decker Bus at the bottom and the whole hill covered in deisel from the overloaded Tonkas no grip loaded or empty and it allways took me weeks to get the ridge out of the middle of the seat.
A request I only passed over the following hill in the day light without a camera and ever time with a camera in the dark, has any body got a picture of the place that I will try to discribe, between Osmaniye and Gaziantep a long sweeping desent into a valley when you stopped at the dirt parking at the top you could see most of the road to the town in the valley and the trucks near the town looked like dinky toys. I have been told by a Turkish friend he thinks the town I am talking about might be Nurdagi?
Regards to you All
Ian
GS OVERLAND:
What a nice looking trailer. Isn’t it a shame that when the sign writing was done the spelling wasn’t proofed.!!
They spelt Qatar wrong…QUATAR…Dipstick.
Don’t you just hate that.!
baghdad bernie:
ron davies is this the one we used to call depression who worked for lobo tpt
Ron Slater was the one known and loved by all as “Depression”.
His son was posting on this site for a short while but have not heard much from him recently.
JAWS:
Hi All
For me Death Valley was between Bolu and Ankara the piece of motorway with the large rock in the middle of the road shaped like the top of a minaret between the armco and the pay arch at the bottom I once got sent off on to the old road thankfully never again.
I have great respect for all those how used that road before the pay road was built.
Diesel Mountian between Zackho and Mosel the one with Saddam Picture in the middle of the hair pin and nearly at the bottom in the ravine on the right a German double decker Bus at the bottom and the whole hill covered in deisel from the overloaded Tonkas no grip loaded or empty and it allways took me weeks to get the ridge out of the middle of the seat.
A request I only passed over the following hill in the day light without a camera and ever time with a camera in the dark, has any body got a picture of the place that I will try to discribe, between Osmaniye and Gaziantep a long sweeping desent into a valley when you stopped at the dirt parking at the top you could see most of the road to the town in the valley and the trucks near the town looked like dinky toys. I have been told by a Turkish friend he thinks the town I am talking about might be Nurdagi?
Regards to you All
Ian
Is this the one you’re talking about?
Thank you Ron I am sure it is the town that I was after, Ian Taylor has also posted a photo from this hill but I think that his photo was further up th Hill
Many Thanks to you both for finding these photos for me
Maybe some one can answer this question. Another job I did, was some containers from Jeddah to, cant remember where. But me and another bloke took them, after about three trips, he got fed up of them, so we looked in the back of the containers. Fire bricks, 8ft high and 8ft wide, 40ft long, no pallets or anything.
Any one know what it would weigh, we re-conned about 130 tons on the trailer. Don’t know, but we had to go very slow.hlb
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Not got an answer here, but got one from my boat forum. Took about three minutes. 140 tons, add on the truck,trailer and containers, so nearer 160 tons. No idea if this is right. But very heavy.
i’ve moved refractories where 14 standard pallets just a foot high were knocking 22 tonnes, but others (silica?) which were really quite bulky and light.
130 or 140 tonne would result in the container buckling/all trailer tyres popping (even without the desert heat)/chassis snapping in two etc
jj72:
i’ve moved refractories where 14 standard pallets just a foot high were knocking 22 tonnes, but others (silica?) which were really quite bulky and light.
130 or 140 tonne would result in the container buckling/all trailer tyres popping (even without the desert heat)/chassis snapping in two etc
jj72:
i’ve moved refractories where 14 standard pallets just a foot high were knocking 22 tonnes, but others (silica?) which were really quite bulky and light.
130 or 140 tonne would result in the container buckling/all trailer tyres popping (even without the desert heat)/chassis snapping in two etc
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I can only relate what I saw and did. We knew nothing about the trailers till we looked inside
Who are u mate all of the ME drivers know each other on here,and u have made a silly statement most of the writers on this thread are hardend ME experts with many years and miles between them.
Roger
Hi Roger
Keep taking the happy pills, and put the toys back ing the pram,
It could be that your paths never crossed mine would not as I did not start untill after he said that he had finished.
So lets give him the benefit of doubt
Best Regards
Ian [/quote}
Roger, you obviously have a lot of experience so you can easily weed out the BS, like you I think the blokes stories do appear a little far fetched, but a lot of what you guys did would appear far fetched, not wanting to put you down in any way & believe me I’m not, but you worked for Astrans & they pretty much had the job down to a fine art, there were many firms who didn’t do it the Astran way, look at the pics from Ian Taylor & the Dutch boys on Toprun & you see all sorts running the ME, there’s probably 1000s of Brits that went there in the 70s, they’re not all going to be of the Astran calibre are they now
Give the man a chance, you never know. In my opinion you’re making it sound like Astrans was a bit ‘clique’ I know from talking to others that it wasn’t
jj72:
i’ve moved refractories where 14 standard pallets just a foot high were knocking 22 tonnes, but others (silica?) which were really quite bulky and light.
130 or 140 tonne would result in the container buckling/all trailer tyres popping (even without the desert heat)/chassis snapping in two etc
jj72:
i’ve moved refractories where 14 standard pallets just a foot high were knocking 22 tonnes, but others (silica?) which were really quite bulky and light.
130 or 140 tonne would result in the container buckling/all trailer tyres popping (even without the desert heat)/chassis snapping in two etc
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I can only relate what I saw and did. We knew nothing about the trailers till we looked inside
Hlb…Just a few questions on this, as the normal max weight of a container is around 30 tons (ish) with a pay load of around 26 and heavy loads are normally loaded on flat racks. If the container was 130 tons it would buckle, also how was it handled in the port.
Whilst I know that the Saudi’s would carry 70 tons on their heavy trailers with 24 inch tyres and even carry 20 foot containers side ways on the trailer in the old days before rules and regulations, your 160 ton rig would not have moved very far at all…… Not wanting to be cynical or indeed doubt what others post, I do question what you have written on this occasion. Even Zahid Henor would only transport those sort of weights with a Multi Row. No doubt, there are many on this site who have more experience with regard to containers than I do, and it would be interesting to hear their (polite) comments
With the greatest respect, It could be that, what is said in my signature below could have foundation.
Who are u mate all of the ME drivers know each other on here,and u have made a silly statement most of the writers on this thread are hardend ME experts with many years and miles between them.
Roger
Hi Roger
Keep taking the happy pills, and put the toys back ing the pram,
It could be that your paths never crossed mine would not as I did not start untill after he said that he had finished.
So lets give him the benefit of doubt
Best Regards
Ian
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Roger, you obviously have a lot of experience so you can easily weed out the BS, like you I think the blokes stories do appear a little far fetched, but a lot of what you guys did would appear far fetched, not wanting to put you down in any way & believe me I’m not, but you worked for Astrans & they pretty much had the job down to a fine art, there were many firms who didn’t do it the Astran way, look at the pics from Ian Taylor & the Dutch boys on Toprun & you see all sorts running the ME, there’s probably 1000s of Brits that went there in the 70s, they’re not all going to be of the Astran calibre are they now
Give the man a chance, you never know. In my opinion you’re making it sound like Astrans was a bit ‘clique’ I know from talking to others that it wasn’t
Newmercman
What you say is somewhat right, and yes many who post on this site have a lot of experience including Roger who always did a ■■■■ good job, there are also those who did far less, in some cases only one or two trips, but………they still have their own stories and their own experiences to share, and should be given the opportunity to speak. It could be B/S or it may just be the years fading the memories. One thing for sure is that we all learn when we listen, not when we talk.
Whilst Astran may have been the bees knees, the guys I met were just normal guys who were very privileged to drive or sub for a first class company…
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